Iranian President dies in Helicopter crash

[hurtinbuckaroo]

He's dead y'all

Please tell me he was wearing a red shirt.

 

[ZiprHead]

Hey! I like Jon Bon Jovi. He ain't Stevie Ray Vaughan but who is?

 

[ZiprHead]

Masih Alinejad on X: "“I think this is the only crash in history where everyone is worried if someone survived.”
“Happy World Helicopter Day!”
Iranian social media is flooded with jokes about Ebrahim Raisi’s helicopter crash. This is how oppressed people fight back through humor." / X

 

[Bomb#20]

First rule of aviation: if the wings are moving faster than the fuselage it's an unsafe situation.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

They were in a helicopter.

 

[Gospel]

I think Bomb described a helicopter.

 

[lpetrich]

What may have caused the helicopter crash that killed Iran's president : NPR

For most people, the death of retired NBA star Kobe Bryant, his 13-year-old daughter and seven others in a helicopter crash in California four years ago comes to mind. But in 2018, Thai businessman Vichai Srivaddhanaprabha, who owned the Leicester City soccer club, died along with four others in a helicopter crash. The previous year, Troy Gentry, then part of country music act Montgomery Gentry, was also killed in a crash in New Jersey.

An investigation of the crash that killed Bryant and the others aboard a Sikorsky S-76B concluded that the pilot became disoriented as the chopper flew into a cloud bank, thinking he was climbing when in fact he was plunging into a hillside. Pilot error was also blamed in the crash that killed Gentry, while an investigation of the crash involving Vichai concluded that the Leonardo AW169 helicopter was brought down by a failure of its rear rotor mechanism.

Bad weather?

Early reports of the crash in Iran suggest that the helicopter was flying in a "foggy, mountainous region of the country's northwest," according to The Associated Press.

Poor weather conditions are a leading cause of helicopter, or rotor aircraft, crashes. According to an analysis presented at a 2021 forum of the American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics, in 28% of all fatal helicopter crashes, weather was a factor.

Analysis of Weather-Related Helicopter Accidents and Incidents in the United States | AIAA AVIATION Forum
"Helicopters typically operate at lower altitudes than fixed-wing aircraft and can take-off and land away from airports. Thus, helicopter pilots have decreased access to weather information due to connectivity issues or sparsity of weather coverage in those areas and at those altitudes." and "Wind was involved in most incidents but more rarely involved in fatalities. Bad visibility conditions due to a combination of low illumination and clouds were responsible for most fatal weather-related accidents."

 

[lpetrich]

Are helicopters dangerous? A comparison with planes, trains and cars - The Points Guy

US death rate per distance traveled:

• Airlines 1
• Intercity rail (Amtrak) 20.0
• Scheduled charter flights 34.3
• Mass transit (rail and bus) 49.8
• Non-scheduled charter flights 59.5
• Non-scheduled helicopter flights 63.0
• General aviation (like private planes) 271.7
• Driving or riding in a car/SUV 453.6

Because of automation, most airplanes are forgiving of a pilot's momentary distraction, but "helicopters require a lot of concentration," John Goglia, a former member of the National Transportation Safety Board, said earlier this year, speaking to PBS. "And so sometimes people will lose their focus, and [then] the consequences are severe."

 

[Jarhyn]

I think Bomb described a helicopter.

Yeah, the thing is, helicopters aren't particularly unsafe. All things considered, autorotation is a fairly interesting and important feature of most.

Still, any Boeing executive can tell you, insufficient maintenance is a real killer. Apparently the helicopter was an ancient and unmaintained piece of shit, and that was the best they could spring for their figurehead completely respectable president.

 

[Jarhyn]

@Jimmy Higgins let's not forget that for every man who does not dream this dream of being with a woman that you own, they will cut off your penis and balls, and congratulations, you are now a "woman", too, from there POV: their for the sake of the "men".

At least until a man murders you.

 

[Elixir]

Hey! I like Jon Bon Jovi. He ain't Stevie Ray Vaughan but who is?

Kobe Bryant?

(Too soon?)

 

[bilby]

I think Bomb described a helicopter.

Yeah, the thing is, helicopters aren't particularly unsafe. All things considered, autorotation is a fairly interesting and important feature of most.

Still, any Boeing executive can tell you, insufficient maintenance is a real killer. Apparently the helicopter was an ancient and unmaintained piece of shit, and that was the best they could spring for their figurehead completely respectable president.

Well, they are claiming that it's America's fault*, because US sanctions meant that they couldn't maintain the chopper adequately due to the difficulty in obtaining parts.

That they felt that a poorly maintained and elderly US machine was a better option than a brand new Russian one, I find a hilarious comment on the quality of Russian aircraft (and I can't say that I think they made the wrong call, even in hindsight).







* I know, it's remarkable, unusual, and astonishing that Iran blames America for something bad happening. They almost never do that.

 

[Ford]

Hey! I like Jon Bon Jovi. He ain't Stevie Ray Vaughan but who is?

Kobe Bryant?

(Too soon?)

Ouch.

That aside, one of the snippets of news coverage I'd heard over this was that Raisi was being considered for becoming the next Supreme Leader. IIRC, there's been a bit of distance between the political leaders like the President, and the religious leaders like the Ayatollahs. If they were thinking of merging the political leadership with the religious leadership, and this threw a wrench into that plan?

This sudden attack of gravity may be a net positive.

 

[Gospel]

I think Bomb described a helicopter.

Yeah, the thing is, helicopters aren't particularly unsafe. All things considered, autorotation is a fairly interesting and important feature of most.

Still, any Boeing executive can tell you, insufficient maintenance is a real killer. Apparently the helicopter was an ancient and unmaintained piece of shit, and that was the best they could spring for their figurehead completely respectable president.

Well, they are claiming that it's America's fault*, because US sanctions meant that they couldn't maintain the chopper adequately due to the difficulty in obtaining parts.

That they felt that a poorly maintained and elderly US machine was a better option than a brand new Russian one, I find a hilarious comment on the quality of Russian aircraft (and I can't say that I think they made the wrong call, even in hindsight).

* I know, it's remarkable, unusual, and astonishing that Iran blames America for something bad happening. They almost never do that.

Well, that's expected (not the choice of a US-made vessel over a Russian one). If Obama were to be assassinated (I'm not a Biden fan, so I'm not using him as an example, plus he's a sitting president, and I don't want a bunch of armed white people in suits and aviators showing up at my door), I would view anyone deemed hostile to America or Black people (or anyone with a motive, really) with suspicion. It only becomes an issue if I decide to take actions not based on evidence.

 

[Gospel]

Hey! I like Jon Bon Jovi. He ain't Stevie Ray Vaughan but who is?

Kobe Bryant?

(Too soon?)

It will indefinitely be too soon, but since dark humor spares no one, it's fair, I suppose.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

I think Bomb described a helicopter.

Yeah, the thing is, helicopters aren't particularly unsafe. All things considered, autorotation is a fairly interesting and important feature of most.

Still, any Boeing executive can tell you, insufficient maintenance is a real killer. Apparently the helicopter was an ancient and unmaintained piece of shit, and that was the best they could spring for their figurehead completely respectable president.

Nah, it was a Mossad officer named "Eli Copter"!

(And Hamas seems to think the joke was real.)

 

[Cheerful Charlie]

A helicopter in bad, foggy weather in a mountainous area is an accident looking to happen. Pilot error.

 

[TomC]

  [QUOTE="Cheerful Charlie, post: 1184599, member: 107"] A helicopter in bad, foggy weather in a mountainous area is an accident looking to happen. Pilot error. [/QUOTE]
I have faith in a different God.
Tom

 

[bilby]

I think Bomb described a helicopter.

Yeah, the thing is, helicopters aren't particularly unsafe. All things considered, autorotation is a fairly interesting and important feature of most.

Still, any Boeing executive can tell you, insufficient maintenance is a real killer. Apparently the helicopter was an ancient and unmaintained piece of shit, and that was the best they could spring for their figurehead completely respectable president.

Nah, it was a Mossad officer named "Eli Copter"!

(And Hamas seems to think the joke was real.)

Oddly, splitting "helicopter" in this way "heli-copter" is etymologically incorrect, despite having become the accepted usage. The appropriate split was originally "helico-pter", meaning "spiral-wing".

We also see "pter" meaning "wing" in modern English words like Pterodactyl (finger wing).

 

[bilby]

A helicopter in bad, foggy weather in a mountainous area is an accident looking to happen. Pilot error.

It was certainly an error on the pilot's part to get into a helicopter that was being maintained by Iranians.