Iraqi man dies after Trump administration deports him

[ZiprHead]

A 41-year-old Detroit man deported to Iraq in June died Tuesday, according to the American Civil Liberties Union and two people close to the man’s family.

The man, Jimmy Aldaoud, spent most of his life in the U.S., but was swept up in President Donald Trump’s intensified immigration enforcement efforts.

Edward Bajoka, an immigration attorney who described himself as close to Aldaoud’s family, wrote on Facebook that the death appeared to be linked to the man’s inability to obtain insulin in Baghdad to treat his diabetes. Aldaoud was an Iraqi national, but he was born in Greece and came to the U.S. as a young child, his family friend said. He had never lived in Iraq and did not speak Arabic, according to Bajoka.

 

[dismal]

First, lack of insulin is not a quick or unnoticeable death. Someone in Iraq willfully let him die.

Second, you left this part out:

According to the ACLU and a POLITICO search of court records, Aldaoud had a criminal conviction for disorderly conduct and served 17 months for a home invasion.

Good luck convincing people it was Trump's fault a violent felon got deported.

 

[Tom Sawyer]

What's the issue with this guy dying? He committed crimes while in a foreign country, so was kicked out of that country. At that point, the foreign country was done with him.

I assume that there are other diabetics in Iraq and some of them have survived,so this seems to be an Iraqi issue and not an American one.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Thirded. This guy got deported for being a felon. Good riddance. It's not our obligation to see that he gets insulin in his country.

I favor letting in refugees but I have little tolerance for wrongdoing on their part other than things based in a misunderstanding. (For example, I would not be inclined to deport a refugee for trying to bribe an official. They generally come from places where that's expected.)

 

[ZiprHead]

What's the issue with this guy dying? He committed crimes while in a foreign country, so was kicked out of that country. At that point, the foreign country was done with him.

I assume that there are other diabetics in Iraq and some of them have survived,so this seems to be an Iraqi issue and not an American one.

I suspect the language difference played a large role in him not being able to obtain insulin and supplies.

 

[ZiprHead]

Thirded. This guy got deported for being a felon. Good riddance. It's not our obligation to see that he gets insulin in his country.

I favor letting in refugees but I have little tolerance for wrongdoing on their part other than things based in a misunderstanding. (For example, I would not be inclined to deport a refugee for trying to bribe an official. They generally come from places where that's expected.)

I'll let Derec know you think he should be deported.

 

[Derec]

So we should not deport anybody who might die? Since anybody "might die" we should not deport anybody ever?

What you have not quoted from your article:

An ICE spokesperson in Detroit said that Aldaoud had “an extensive criminal history“ that involved at least 20 convictions from 1998 to 2017, and had twice been ordered removed from the U.S.

The convictions included assault with a dangerous weapon, domestic violence, theft of personal property, and breaking and entering, according to ICE. A POLITICO search of court records showed Aldaoud served 17 months for a home invasion in 2013.

He should have been deported long ago.

 

[Derec]

I'll let Derec know you think he should be deported.

I don't have any convictions, and certainly no felony ones.

By the way, Iraqis who are on the list for deportation for crimes are cutting their tethers and pulling other antics to avoid deportation.

Fearing deportation, Iraqi refugees cut tethers

They are making an excellent case for immigration detention rather than "release until court date" ...

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Why not Greece?

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Thirded. This guy got deported for being a felon. Good riddance. It's not our obligation to see that he gets insulin in his country.

I favor letting in refugees but I have little tolerance for wrongdoing on their part other than things based in a misunderstanding. (For example, I would not be inclined to deport a refugee for trying to bribe an official. They generally come from places where that's expected.)

I'll let Derec know you think he should be deported.

I don't think prostitution should be a crime.

 

[blastula]

He was brought here at age 6 months. It's way fucking harsh to have deported him. If his crimes are the justification, then we might as well expel all convicted criminals.

 

[ZiprHead]

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[barbos]

He was brought here at age 6 months. It's way fucking harsh to have deported him. If his crimes are the justification, then we might as well expel all convicted criminals.

Yeah, that's ridiculous. Why does not he speak arabic, though? His parents decided not to use arabic in US?

 

[Shadowy Man]

He was brought here at age 6 months. It's way fucking harsh to have deported him. If his crimes are the justification, then we might as well expel all convicted criminals.

Yeah, that's ridiculous. Why does not he speak arabic, though? His parents decided not to use arabic in US?

Not every immigrant parent teachers their kid raised here their native language. Don't most anti-immigrant people complain when immigrants use a foreign language anyway?

 

[Loren Pechtel]

He was brought here at age 6 months. It's way fucking harsh to have deported him. If his crimes are the justification, then we might as well expel all convicted criminals.

If he was here legally that long he could have become a citizen.

 

[Shadowy Man]

He was brought here at age 6 months. It's way fucking harsh to have deported him. If his crimes are the justification, then we might as well expel all convicted criminals.

If he was here legally that long he could have become a citizen.

Like the Dreamers?

 

[Elixir]

Good luck convincing people it was Trump's fault a violent felon got deported.

Are you saying it's a credit to Trump, i.e. Trump was a direct cause of his deportation, and that deportation had nothing to do with his death?
Hmmm... for someone who habitually complains about logic, having things both ways is unbecoming. Is there also some reason you'd expect to need to convince anyone that Trump deported a violent felon?

 

[Derec]

Yeah, that's ridiculous. Why does not he speak arabic, though? His parents decided not to use arabic in US?

I was wondering that too. Did his parents not speak Arabic to him when he was young? Did they come to US with English skills?
Or did he just lose even rudimentary Arabic skills over the years and decades because he wasn't using it? He doesn't strike me as the sharpest knife in the drawer exactly, so that last one is a distinct possibility.

 

[Derec]

If he was here legally that long he could have become a citizen.

I was wondering that. He probably could not have gotten naturalized as an adult because he has a serious criminal record stretching all his adult life and probably has a juvenile record as well. I wonder why his parents did not naturalize him as a child - I wonder if they were citizens themselves.

 

[dismal]

What's the issue with this guy dying? He committed crimes while in a foreign country, so was kicked out of that country. At that point, the foreign country was done with him.

I assume that there are other diabetics in Iraq and some of them have survived,so this seems to be an Iraqi issue and not an American one.

I suspect the language difference played a large role in him not being able to obtain insulin and supplies.

Why? I don't think it would be even a slight problem to get insulin in this country without speaking English, or even speaking at all.

A diabetic dying from lack of insulin would take weeks. There is plenty of time, and the signs are obvious.