Is Europe in danger of a new rise in facism?

[tupac chopra]

The present day Ukrainian fascists are the heirs and supporters of those who fought alongside Hitler in WW2 against Russia.

Many fascists may well be supporters of like-fascists who fought along Hitler but the elected Ukrainian government formed out of coalitions is right of centre not right wing.

The "government" is not homogenous. Some of the factions are very fascist. It's an unstable compound.

 

[Jokodo]

No, Europe is still bending over for Jews and Muslims

- In Northern Norway, urologists refuse to perform the procedure.

Jewish Ervin Kohn, director and leader of the Jewish community and Deputy at the Anti-Racist Center, has absolutely no understanding that doctors refuse to circumcise and think they should be fired.

- That doctors sit on their high horse and assume a aunt Sophie attitude full of arrogance that I can't understand whatsoever. Insubordination is actually a dismissal reason according to the Working Environment Act.

"The Norwegians must open their eyes and be a little less ethnocentric," says Kohn, who also claims that ritual circumcision is a human right.

https://www.nordfront.net/2015/leger-nekter-utfore-rituell-omskjaering/

Exactly how is this supposed to be an example of "bending over"? We have doctors refusing to perform the procedure, and a spokesperson of the Jewish community complaining about that refusal. Short of lynching the Jewish activist for speaking up, that's about as far from "bending over" as it gets.

If the authorities in Khartoum refused to grant an exception to the general prohibition of alcohol for wine used in the Communion, and a spokesperson of the Christian Church complained about that fact, would you call that "Sudan bending over for Christians"?

Also, in the interest of your own credibility, watch your sources!

 

[Davka]

Many fascists may well be supporters of like-fascists who fought along Hitler but the elected Ukrainian government formed out of coalitions is right of centre not right wing.

The "government" is not homogenous. Some of the factions are very fascist. It's an unstable compound.

Is much better for strong manly Putin to impose Iron Will over mindless sheeple of Ukraine, for save from fascist democracy.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Extremist parties across Europe are gaining a foothold and winning government seats.

European Elections: 9 Scariest Far-Right Parties Now In The European Parliament

One has a leader with a swastika tattoo, one wants to rid his entire country of Muslims, another has a founder who suggested releasing the Ebola virus on migrants. This is the class of 2014, the parties set to enter the European Parliament as part of the Union's most eurosceptic, far right, anti-immigrant intake of all time.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/05/26/far-right-europe-election_n_5391873.html

With Europe's economic problems (concentrated in the south), increasing Muslim population and the rising tensions Europeans are having with this community and the anti-immigrant attitudes that are increasing, and terrorist incidents, could we witness a new rise of fascism in Europe? I'm sure the Russian actions are pushing Europe further to the right as well. It's certainly not helping. It is a dangerous mix of elements that could push Europe sharply to the right and is already doing so to some extent.

What does everyone think?

I thought Europe was a liberal haven. Apparently not. As far as a rise to fascism, it clearly is heading that direction.

 

[Archimedes]

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Is there a point behind posting that kind of far-right wanking material?

 

[laughing dog]

The irony is that these native Europeans are worried about a stubbornly authoritarian religion (Islam) and may have to use more authoritarianism than they want to stop it from spreading.

I don't CARE if people insult me or call me bigoted. I care about what I think will happen from this demographic trend to the politics and culture of Europe. Stay to the facts and don't character assassinate.

When you spread shit with a broad brush, don't complain when you get some on yourself.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Is there a point behind posting that kind of far-right wanking material?

Other than the wanking?

 

[repoman]

About the only thing I agree with any far right party is the need to stop the massive influx of Muslim immigrants.

Islam is bad news. Contain the virus, don't give it fresh territory.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

About the only thing I agree with any far right party is the need to stop the massive influx of Muslim immigrants.

Islam is bad news. Contain the virus, don't give it fresh territory.

Radicalized Islam is bad. Might as well call for blacks being deported from the US because of black gang violence. History has shown conservative religious values temper given time. It isn't like conservative Islam is living in the dark ages. They are only lagging Christian values by about 100 or so years. Plus or minus based on the subject.

 

[Archimedes]

About the only thing I agree with any far right party is the need to stop the massive influx of Muslim immigrants.

Islam is bad news. Contain the virus, don't give it fresh territory.

Otherwise hoards of Muslim immigrants will set up caliphates, sultanates and emirates all over Europe leading to WWIII where 100+ million people will die?

Like I said, far-right wanking material.

 

[Jokodo]

could you try to explain how your earlier example of bending over isn't actually the opposite before moving on to viruses? thx.

 

[Jolly_Penguin]

Like I said, far-right wanking material.

It feels better if you want to the left. Do it with the left hand it'll feel like somebody else. (Catcher in the rye reference for those who know it)

Oh wait, what are we talking about?

 

[Davka]

About the only thing I agree with any far right party is the need to stop the massive influx of Muslim immigrants.

Islam is bad news. Contain the virus, don't give it fresh territory.

Islam is no better or worse than any other religion. The problem is fanaticism, not the brand-name.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

About the only thing I agree with any far right party is the need to stop the massive influx of Muslim immigrants.

Islam is bad news. Contain the virus, don't give it fresh territory.

Islam is no better or worse than any other religion. The problem is fanaticism, not the brand-name.

Except Islam has a lot of money pouring into violence by the fanatics. That makes it far more dangerous than other breeds of fanaticism.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Islam is no better or worse than any other religion. The problem is fanaticism, not the brand-name.

Except Islam has a lot of money pouring into violence by the fanatics. That makes it far more dangerous than other breeds of fanaticism.

And our military has $600 billion being poured into missiles and drones that are killing more civilians than these terror attacks in the West, 9/11 excluded.

 

[dx713]

Except Islam has a lot of money pouring into violence by the fanatics. That makes it far more dangerous than other breeds of fanaticism.

And our military has $600 billion being poured into missiles and drones that are killing more civilians than these terror attacks in the West, 9/11 excluded.

Even without that argument, let's remember that the money supporting Muslim fundies is actually our gas money. Let's stop sucking it up to the Saudis for the fuel, and jihadism might quickly become a much less powerful sect.

Oh, and also why not repair the broken social lift here in Europe, so that the kids of Muslims migrants can actually find purpose as citizen of a democratic country instead of having to look for it in a caricature of their parents culture and religion?

 

[Warpoet]

About the only thing I agree with any far right party is the need to stop the massive influx of Muslim immigrants.

Islam is bad news. Contain the virus, don't give it fresh territory.

Fearmongering horseshit.

 

[Jayjay]

About the only thing I agree with any far right party is the need to stop the massive influx of Muslim immigrants.

Islam is bad news. Contain the virus, don't give it fresh territory.

Fearmongering horseshit.

But it works. And that's why right wing nationalist parties are on the rise in Europe. America doesn't seem to have this issue because it's got tighter controls on immigration to begin with and doesn't have the kind of welfare system that many European countries do.

I'd rather see criticism of massive muslim immigration becoming more mainstream across party lines in Europe, than right wing populist parties gaining more power because they can make it a wedge issue that everyone else ignores.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Except Islam has a lot of money pouring into violence by the fanatics. That makes it far more dangerous than other breeds of fanaticism.

And our military has $600 billion being poured into missiles and drones that are killing more civilians than these terror attacks in the West, 9/11 excluded.

Irrelevant. The money has been pouring into radical Islam for considerably longer than we have been involved in fighting them.

 

[Turambar]

About the only thing I agree with any far right party is the need to stop the massive influx of Muslim immigrants.

Islam is bad news. Contain the virus, don't give it fresh territory.

Fearmongering horseshit.

Why do you say so? Religions are dangerous, I guess pretty much everyone in this forum should agree. Western civilisation is barely coming out of christianity's fundamentalist grip (which lasted, depending on where you live, between 15-19 centuries nonetheless). Hell, some regions are still under fundamentalist control, just look at some southern US states and even some Bavarian towns here in Germany. Why do we need to open ourselves to people from a region that is basically still 16th century Europe? We almost died of pneumonia and are inviting our sick cousin with the flu to our house.