Jade Helm 15

[Keith&Co.]

But no paper or electronic trail exists....

NSA, using the Hitler principle of two, now tracks verbal communications .......

Oh, that's okay, then.
Those bastards never share secrets with federal agencies that could use them, much less civilian contractors. No chance in Hell they'll tell Lockheed that the Admiral laughed at a parody of their Parts of the Missile self-paced lesson for new Missile Technicians.

 

[funinspace]

Fun stuff, a new poll suggests that 1/3 of Repugs and half of tea partiers are un-hinged, unthinking morons:
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/poll-one-third-republicans-think-obama-wants-invade-texas

A new survey from Public Policy Polling finds [PDF] that one-third of Republicans believe the Jade Helm 15 conspiracy theory that “the government is trying to take over Texas,” and another 28 percent of GOP voters haven’t made up their minds yet about the matter.
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PPP also found that half of all Tea Party supporters fear an imminent Texas invasion.

 

[Nice Squirrel]

Well I for one have my orders to head out to head up a death panel at Camp Al Sharpton

 

[Underseer]

Fun stuff, a new poll suggests that 1/3 of Repugs and half of tea partiers are un-hinged, unthinking morons:
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/poll-one-third-republicans-think-obama-wants-invade-texas

A new survey from Public Policy Polling finds [PDF] that one-third of Republicans believe the Jade Helm 15 conspiracy theory that “the government is trying to take over Texas,” and another 28 percent of GOP voters haven’t made up their minds yet about the matter.
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PPP also found that half of all Tea Party supporters fear an imminent Texas invasion.

[conservolibertarian] Straw man! That is a straw man argument! We are not claiming that the government is taking over Texas, what we are claiming is that the government is going to confiscate everyone's guns and ship them all to re-education camps! You made a straw man argument, therefore your argument is false, therefore I have proven that Jade Helm 15 is for real! Wake up, sheeple!!!!!!! [/conservolibertarian]

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On a more serious note, out on Google+ and the YouTube comments section, I have run into a lot of conservatives who are very angry about this conspiracy, are convinced that anyone who doesn't believe in the conspiracy is crazy, and I have not encountered a single conservative or libertarian (who are completely different from one another, honest!) willing to disagree with them in public.

Funny how that works.

 

[funinspace]

On a more serious note, out on Google+ and the YouTube comments section, I have run into a lot of conservatives who are very angry about this conspiracy, are convinced that anyone who doesn't believe in the conspiracy is crazy, and I have not encountered a single conservative or libertarian (who are completely different from one another, honest!) willing to disagree with them in public.

Funny how that works.

As a moderate libertarian, I used to pick on right wingers on Bloomberg on occasion. I find the big public site riffraff just isn't worth it... These days I just stick to picking on you

 

[Keith&Co.]

One rule of harmony in the extended family: I should not refer to my idiot cousin as my idiot cousin.

So, with that out of the way...

There's this idiot in Utah who had my email address. His Jade Helm concern is based on the fact that there's a patch.

A patch.

"Anyone with military experience," he informs me, "knows that only actual, loaded-magazines, shooting people military campaigns have patches. Not training exercises."

But the military REALLY likes patches. I've had one from every single command I've been at, including training commands. Weapon systems get patches, whether they've been deployed in aggression or not. Military contractor companies have patches which will be handed out to any sailor or soldier who walks by.

I've got one from the 50th patrol my first submarine made. We didn't shoot at anybody that patrol (y'all might remember the event. You know that time in 1983 when the Cold War Did NOT Go Hot? That was us, not shooting nukes.)
I've seen an air unit that was called out during a volcanic eruption. They dropped bombs in the lava's path and turned the lava's flow away from an occupied area. They have a patch for that.

Anniversary patches, test flight patches, test launch patches.... I've seen patches for commands of less than fifty people. An emblem for a multi-state exercise doesn't even seem like a stretch.

Now, this idiot of unspecified connection did two years in the Reserves to avoid the draft.... The draft that ended four years before he was born. His experience with military patches clearly exceeds mine.

So what could I do?

Linked him to the occult significance of the Jade Helm emblem, and the anti-Christ's plans....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=aaB7vyZbaMk

 

[Underseer]

On a more serious note, out on Google+ and the YouTube comments section, I have run into a lot of conservatives who are very angry about this conspiracy, are convinced that anyone who doesn't believe in the conspiracy is crazy, and I have not encountered a single conservative or libertarian (who are completely different from one another, honest!) willing to disagree with them in public.

Funny how that works.

As a moderate libertarian, I used to pick on right wingers on Bloomberg on occasion. I find the big public site riffraff just isn't worth it... These days I just stick to picking on you

Of course, of course.

That would explain why I can find plenty of examples of libertarians publicly disagreeing with liberals, but can never seem to find very many examples of libertarians publicly disagreeing with fellow conservatives. Ooops, I meant to say "conservatives" instead of "fellow conservatives" because of course libertarians completely different from conservatives.

It's just a coincidence that we can find plenty of examples of libertarians arguing against liberal positions (using catch phrases straight out of FOX News, no less), but almost never see libertarians arguing against conservative positions.

There are exactly two issues on which I've seen libertarians publicly argue with other conservatives: isolationism and drug policy, and even those disagreements are generally few and far between. The isolationism doesn't distinguish libertarians from conservatism, because that just puts them in line with paleoconservatives instead of neoconservatives (frankly, paleoconservatives were louder and more passionate about their opposition to the Iraq invasion than libertarians were). That leaves drug policy as the one and only issue in which they appear to publicly disagree with other conservatives. Frankly, there are more differences between paleoconservatives and neoconservatives than there are between libertarians and paleoconservatives.

Libertarianism is just one of the factions under the conservative umbrella.

 

[Tom Sawyer]

Libertarianism is just one of the factions under the conservative umbrella.

Well, isn't that just because the forward-thinking libertarians realized the conservatism was a growth industry, so they bought the umbrella?

 

[Nice Squirrel]

As a moderate libertarian, I used to pick on right wingers on Bloomberg on occasion. I find the big public site riffraff just isn't worth it... These days I just stick to picking on you

Of course, of course.

That would explain why I can find plenty of examples of libertarians publicly disagreeing with liberals, but can never seem to find very many examples of libertarians publicly disagreeing with fellow conservatives. Ooops, I meant to say "conservatives" instead of "fellow conservatives" because of course libertarians completely different from conservatives.

It's just a coincidence that we can find plenty of examples of libertarians arguing against liberal positions (using catch phrases straight out of FOX News, no less), but almost never see libertarians arguing against conservative positions.

There are exactly two issues on which I've seen libertarians publicly argue with other conservatives: isolationism and drug policy, and even those disagreements are generally few and far between. The isolationism doesn't distinguish libertarians from conservatism, because that just puts them in line with paleoconservatives instead of neoconservatives (frankly, paleoconservatives were louder and more passionate about their opposition to the Iraq invasion than libertarians were). That leaves drug policy as the one and only issue in which they appear to publicly disagree with other conservatives. Frankly, there are more differences between paleoconservatives and neoconservatives than there are between libertarians and paleoconservatives.

Libertarianism is just one of the factions under the conservative umbrella.

Scratch most self proclaimed conservative libertarians and you'll find a fascist.

 

[Underseer]

Of course, of course.

That would explain why I can find plenty of examples of libertarians publicly disagreeing with liberals, but can never seem to find very many examples of libertarians publicly disagreeing with fellow conservatives. Ooops, I meant to say "conservatives" instead of "fellow conservatives" because of course libertarians completely different from conservatives.

It's just a coincidence that we can find plenty of examples of libertarians arguing against liberal positions (using catch phrases straight out of FOX News, no less), but almost never see libertarians arguing against conservative positions.

There are exactly two issues on which I've seen libertarians publicly argue with other conservatives: isolationism and drug policy, and even those disagreements are generally few and far between. The isolationism doesn't distinguish libertarians from conservatism, because that just puts them in line with paleoconservatives instead of neoconservatives (frankly, paleoconservatives were louder and more passionate about their opposition to the Iraq invasion than libertarians were). That leaves drug policy as the one and only issue in which they appear to publicly disagree with other conservatives. Frankly, there are more differences between paleoconservatives and neoconservatives than there are between libertarians and paleoconservatives.

Libertarianism is just one of the factions under the conservative umbrella.

Scratch most self proclaimed conservative libertarians and you'll find a fascist.

I prefer the term "protofascist" when talking about American conservatives (libertarian or otherwise). They more closely resemble fascist movements in the early stages of formation, not full-blown fascists in power and out in the open.

 

[RavenSky]

One rule of harmony in the extended family: I should not refer to my idiot cousin as my idiot cousin.

So, with that out of the way...

There's this idiot in Utah who had my email address. His Jade Helm concern is based on the fact that there's a patch.

A patch.

"Anyone with military experience," he informs me, "knows that only actual, loaded-magazines, shooting people military campaigns have patches. Not training exercises."

But the military REALLY likes patches. I've had one from every single command I've been at, including training commands. Weapon systems get patches, whether they've been deployed in aggression or not. Military contractor companies have patches which will be handed out to any sailor or soldier who walks by.

I've got one from the 50th patrol my first submarine made. We didn't shoot at anybody that patrol (y'all might remember the event. You know that time in 1983 when the Cold War Did NOT Go Hot? That was us, not shooting nukes.)
I've seen an air unit that was called out during a volcanic eruption. They dropped bombs in the lava's path and turned the lava's flow away from an occupied area. They have a patch for that.

Anniversary patches, test flight patches, test launch patches.... I've seen patches for commands of less than fifty people. An emblem for a multi-state exercise doesn't even seem like a stretch.

Now, this idiot of unspecified connection did two years in the Reserves to avoid the draft.... The draft that ended four years before he was born. His experience with military patches clearly exceeds mine.

So what could I do?

Linked him to the occult significance of the Jade Helm emblem, and the anti-Christ's plans....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=aaB7vyZbaMk

 

[Rhea]

Five Videos Conspiracy Theorists Say Are 'Proof' Of A Coming Military Takeover

How do they even breathe without a machine?

The video of United Nations vehicles comes after one theorist speculated that the program’s true purpose was hidden in its name: “Jade Helm. Jade is blue. Helm is German for helmet. Blue Helmet. UN blue helmets?”

Aaaauuuugh! The stupid, it BURNS!

Another one that gets me as so incredibly stupid, the "they have a plan to subdue citizens! See? they are planning to subdue citizens!


And I'm thinking, really? You want a military that has never thought about what to do in various scenarios until it happens? Of COURSE they have a plan. They have a plan for everything they can think of as remotely possible. Because having plans is good planning! Augh! I have a fire exit plan for my house! I have no plans for a fire!



Aaaauuugh!

 

[ZiprHead]

Here you go, courtesy of the great Plognark.

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Five Videos Conspiracy Theorists Say Are 'Proof' Of A Coming Military Takeover

How do they even breathe without a machine?

The video of United Nations vehicles comes after one theorist speculated that the program’s true purpose was hidden in its name: “Jade Helm. Jade is blue. Helm is German for helmet. Blue Helmet. UN blue helmets?”

Aaaauuuugh! The stupid, it BURNS!

Another one that gets me as so incredibly stupid, the "they have a plan to subdue citizens! See? they are planning to subdue citizens!


And I'm thinking, really? You want a military that has never thought about what to do in various scenarios until it happens? Of COURSE they have a plan. They have a plan for everything they can think of as remotely possible. Because having plans is good planning! Augh! I have a fire exit plan for my house! I have no plans for a fire!



Aaaauuugh!

Fucking moron. Jade is green.

 

[Keith&Co.]

You know, the first three colors that come to mind when I hear 'jade' are not blue.

Green, deeper green, and black are on top. The one due to a character in historical fiction looting a black-jade chess set during the Boxer Rebellion.

At this point, I think Jade Helm should be renamed Bedlam Tuppence. For two pennies, you used to be able to tour the asylum, with a cup of tea afterward. For two cents more, you could rent a stick to poke the crazies with. Much more entertaining tour, that way. I think we're way overbudget on poking the crazy at this point.

 

[Tom Sawyer]

Fucking moron. Jade is green.

Yes. It's there that their logic falls apart.

 

[ZiprHead]

Fucking moron. Jade is green.

Yes. It's there that their logic falls apart.

I agree, otherwise they are perfectly reasonable.

 

[Underseer]

My favorite part of this conspiracy is the network of underground tunnels that will send the entire population of Texas to 3 or 4 abandoned Wal-Mart stores in other states.

Ooops. Did I say "conspiracy"? Please forgive me for being politically incorrect. Of course what I meant to say is "agenda." I always forget that when talking to conservatives and libertarians, we are supposed to use the word agenda instead of conspiracy, because they think that makes them sound less crazy.

 

[Keith&Co.]

My favorite part of this conspiracy is the network of underground tunnels that will send the entire population of Texas to 3 or 4 abandoned Wal-Mart stores in other states.

Yeah, we can't afford to keep the infrastructure sound, like bridges and trains and rails and roadways, but we've got the tech to build undetected tunnels like this....

 

[fromderinside]

One rule of harmony in the extended family: I should not refer to my idiot cousin as my idiot cousin.

So, with that out of the way...

There's this idiot in Utah who had my email address. His Jade Helm concern is based on the fact that there's a patch.

A patch.

"Anyone with military experience," he informs me, "knows that only actual, loaded-magazines, shooting people military campaigns have patches. Not training exercises."

But the military REALLY likes patches. I've had one from every single command I've been at, including training commands. Weapon systems get patches, whether they've been deployed in aggression or not. Military contractor companies have patches which will be handed out to any sailor or soldier who walks by.

I've got one from the 50th patrol my first submarine made. We didn't shoot at anybody that patrol (y'all might remember the event. You know that time in 1983 when the Cold War Did NOT Go Hot? That was us, not shooting nukes.)
I've seen an air unit that was called out during a volcanic eruption. They dropped bombs in the lava's path and turned the lava's flow away from an occupied area. They have a patch for that.

Anniversary patches, test flight patches, test launch patches.... I've seen patches for commands of less than fifty people. An emblem for a multi-state exercise doesn't even seem like a stretch.

Now, this idiot of unspecified connection did two years in the Reserves to avoid the draft.... The draft that ended four years before he was born. His experience with military patches clearly exceeds mine.

So what could I do?

Linked him to the occult significance of the Jade Helm emblem, and the anti-Christ's plans....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=aaB7vyZbaMk

You're just scratching the patch surface there Keith&Co. Military personnel who attended the conferences where I presented at papers primarily at Naval Air Centers and commands like PMTC (my civil service home), Wright Patterson Systems and Force, Edwards NASA and Test, China Lake Air Weapons, NATC and NASC, NRL, ARL, on Workload, Fatigue, Supportability, Reliability and Maintainability, Machine Vision, Operability, TCAS, MILSTDs 203, 207, 1472, and Global Operator Modeling Systems all received patches. I'm so proud of my importance to the military.

 

[Keith&Co.]

Youo're just scratching the patch surface there Keith&Co. Military personnel who attended the conferences where I presented papers on Workload, Fatigue, Supportability, Reliability and Maintainability, Machine Vision, Operability, TCAS, MILSTDs 203, 207, 1472, and Global Operator Modeling Systems all received patches. I'm so proud of my importance to the military.

Be proud.

Then there are the patches for missions that are so Top Secret they can't have a symbol. Totally black, or blank, or without attribution to who, what, why or where...

The acronym across the bottom is 'None Of Your Fucking Business.'