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Jamar Clark Protests: 5 Shot Near Black Lives Matter Encampment
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DrZoidberg
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How's s that for a PR-nightmare. The cops might as well have shown up at the camp with a banner reading "no they don't"
Don2 (Don1 Revised)
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In their defense, we know this wasn't the police in masks because if it were, they'd have done more damage.
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It won't embed right since I am on mobile, but look at my video in the other thread on this topic
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Three white guys looking for trouble is the story the local news is playing.
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I'll do it for you dear, no problem
Now exactly what do you think this is going to do? Three people came looking to start a fight and got one that did not go their way and then those same three people shot five people.
You think because they got hit and chased they should skate on shooting five people? Is that what you think?
repoman
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In the video it seemed like the guy said they group of protestors followed them to get their masks/scarves off. Followed them as they retreated. Sounds very intimidating.
it is kind of like the way the protestors at Mizzou did with that photographer, pushing him out.
it is kind of like the way the protestors at Mizzou did with that photographer, pushing him out.
repoman
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Absolutely they should skate, if a group of 10-15 white guys followed 3 black for several blocks in the same way I would have the same opinion.
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Isn't that what happened to that BLM protester at the Trump rally? Are you, Athena, now in agreement with Trump, that people like that (who come to a protest/rally with an opposite point of view) deserve to be roughed up? Or is it another instance of double standards and selective outrage?
They will certainly be able to make a case that it was self defense, based on what the BLMers in the video were saying.
P.S.: Do we even know these guys were opposed to BLM protests? The guys in the video said they had "Black Lives Matter" signs. It's possible the paranoid protesters turned on them for no reason.
P.P.S.: Luckily nobody died. We can be thankful for that at least.
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Still can't shoot 'em.
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Were they being followed by 10 to 15 people when they started shooting? It appears not
Nor does it currently appear that the four people who kept following the three were engaging in any physical altercation.
Now things can change, other witnesses and other evidence can arise, but as things stand with what we know now, do you still think that the three people who started the fight should skate on shooting five people? And under what law should they skate? If the mass of people were in retreat and the four who weren't were not physically attacking, should the three be allowed to shoot with impunity?
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Not discussing the trump rally and the situations are not the same. I know you think they are, but you are often wrong.
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Friends who were there are calling the shooters "white supremacists", but these folks tend to be a little hyperbolic.
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I would hope that everyone would agree that these shootings are not acceptable.
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That's why I went with NBC story. I don't think we know enough to say whether or not the shooters were white supremacists or not. All we know so far is that three people showed up, antagonized the protesters in some way, the protesters engaged physically with the three and forced the three to leave, and when all but four of the protesters were returning back toward the encampment, the three opened fired, injuring five people, according to the witness statements we have so far and the Minneapolis police.
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No two situations will be exactly the same, but that doesn't mean we can't draw parallels.
The Trump protesters was disrupting a political rally and should have been removed by security (hell, Sanders should have let security remove his BLM disruptors) but he should not have been roughed up by attendees.
In this case the three appeared to just be filming (according to that video) and should not have been attacked and chased off by protesters in the first place.
Rich coming from you.
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Well, hope springs eternal.
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Not the point of contention and one here has said protesters were right or wrong to say or do anything to the three when they were filming. The point of contention is should the five people have been shot?
"I know you are, but what am I?"
Really?
A six year old's taunt is the best you got?
That is so sad.
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Ok, this actually could be (I give it a 70% chance) the guys who tangled with the protestors. This was taken on the night of the 19th according to the description. I saw them in another video face to face with the protestors throwing out codewords like cultural enrichment and IRL Baneposting (link at the end). They also had on /k/ armbands for the 4chan.org/k/ board that focuses on weapons.
this is cultural enrichment:
a dindu is short for dindu nuffin which came from here:
oh, found the video of them at the protest:
baneposting is actually funny as hell, but out of place at the protest. It is from this scene:
ETA: now that I think about it, the guy with the gun is going to be very lucky if he does not at least have a police interview. the FBI is going to be all up into 4chan now and unless he is behind 7 proxies, well good luck. for his sake one of his buddies was filming. Because I still think that it was likely they fired in self defense. But maybe not.
article said:
Sounds very threatening. I could see this being self defense.
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https://twitter.com/schirber/status/669035788168855552
This is being said to be part of the escorting. It seems to match up with the video from the protestors mentioning a scuffle at a fence.
Dangerous game these /k/ guys were playing. All for the adulation of strangers on the internet? Even if it was self defense, they are still in a lot a jeopardy.
This is being said to be part of the escorting. It seems to match up with the video from the protestors mentioning a scuffle at a fence.
Dangerous game these /k/ guys were playing. All for the adulation of strangers on the internet? Even if it was self defense, they are still in a lot a jeopardy.