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January 6 Hearings Live

Sen. Sherrod Brown, D-OH
Sherrod Brown on Twitter: "Both @HawleyMO and @SenTedCruz have betrayed their oaths of office and abetted a violent insurrection on our democracy. I am calling for their immediate resignations. If they do not resign, the Senate must expel them." / Twitter


James Hohmann on Twitter: "Biden invokes Nazi propaganda minister Joseph Goebbels and says Hawley and Cruz are as much a party to The Big Lie as Trump himself. “It’s the Big Lie,” he says. “The Big Lie.”" / Twitter
and
James Hohmann on Twitter: "The “Big Lie” that the president-elect was referring to, of course, is that there was widespread voter fraud in the 2020 election." / Twitter

Then Ted Cruz getting all weepy.
Ted Cruz on Twitter: "Really sad. At a time of deep national division, President-elect Biden’s choice to call his political opponents literal Nazis does nothing to bring us together or promote healing.

This kind of vicious partisan rhetoric only tears our country apart." / Twitter

then
Marianne Williamson on Twitter: "@tedcruz It actually does promote healing, because it’s the truth. There is no healing without radical truth-telling and I appreciate that he’s starting to do it." / Twitter

Then
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Twitter: "They wore Auschwitz shirts, erected gallows, and tried to hang the Vice President.

Your continued excusal and denial of Wednesday’s Neo-Nazi presence is abhorrent and dangerous.

The most healing and unifying thing *you* can do is take responsibility for your actions and resign." / Twitter

I agree. Conservatives talk about taking responsibility for one's actions.

"Auschwitz shirts"? Like "Camp Auschwitz" and 6MWE - Six Million Was Not Enough. With a logo with an eagle, a wreath crown, and a fasces -- sticks with an ax bound together, the ancient Roman symbol of a magistrate's authority. Mussolini's Fascists took their name from that.
 
Ruth Ben-Ghiat on Twitter: "Historian of coups and right-wing authoritarians here. If there are not severe consequences for every lawmaker & Trump govt official who backed this, every member of the Capitol Police who collaborated with them, this "strategy of disruption" will escalate in 2021" / Twitter
I agree. They should be squashed. The wimpy response to the Beer Hall Putsch should not be repeated.

Norman Ornstein on Twitter: "The House must as an immediate step pass a domestic terrorism statute, with a focus on white supremacist terrorism, and send it to the Senate." / Twitter
AOC disagrees.
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Twitter: "As the Vice Chair of the Oversight subcommittee who ran investigations into domestic terror laws, I respectfully disagree.

Our problems on Wednesday weren’t that there weren’t enough laws, resources, or intelligence. We had them, & they were not used.

It’s time to find out why." / Twitter

I agree. Looks like she might end up very busy in the Oversight Committee.

Another response to Rep. Nicole Malliotakis:
Mondaire Jones on Twitter: "You disgraced your office on Day 4 and got a Capitol Police officer killed through telling a vicious lie that incited Wednesday’s insurrection.

New Yorkers everywhere are embarrassed by you. Resign." / Twitter

and
Jamaal Bowman on Twitter: "Nope. Those words are empty. You voted to deny democracy. Your lies got an officer killed by a fascist mob.

Resign. You don’t represent New York." / Twitter


Tim Hogan on Twitter: "I’ve watched this clip 100 times and I still can’t believe it https://t.co/7vYfmPJoxB" / Twitter
Seems like some fifth columnist.
Rep. Jason Crow on Twitter: "Those who know @RepAndyKimNJ know this is exactly who he is.

When the worst of it was over and we were all exhausted, Andy pushed on and began restoring our Capitol.

He is a true humble public servant. (Andrew Harnik @andyharnik, AP Photo) https://t.co/AE6mhlhwRW" / Twitter


Amanda Marcotte on Twitter: "Not that there was any doubt, but The NY Times confirms that Trump actively supported the insurrection, is not sorry he incited it, and is only half-heartedly pretending otherwise to avoid prison. [url]https://t.co/LSbA08NNZu https://t.co/nZmq6RKZiy" / Twitter[/url]
How The Capitol Attack Led Democrats to Demand Trump's Resignation - The New York Times - "The White House was propelled deeper into crisis as officials resigned in protest and prominent Republicans broke with the president after he incited a mob that assaulted Congress."
While he did not give up his false claims of election fraud, he finally conceded defeat. “A new administration will be inaugurated on Jan. 20,” Mr. Trump acknowledged. “My focus now turns to ensuring a smooth, orderly and seamless transition of power. This moment calls for healing and reconciliation.”

Mr. Trump initially resisted taping the video, agreeing to do it only after aides pressed him and he appeared to suddenly realize he could face legal risk for prodding the mob, coming shortly after the chief federal prosecutor for Washington left open the possibility of investigating the president for illegally inciting the attack by telling supporters to march on the Capitol and show strength.

Pat A. Cipollone, the White House counsel, had warned Mr. Trump of just that danger on Wednesday as aides frantically tried to get the president to intervene and publicly call off rioters, which he did only belatedly, reluctantly and halfheartedly.
 
Admittedly, the chant is vague and obscure, but "Hang Mike Pence" could be easily mistaken as a threat.
article said:
Some of President Donald Trump's supporters apparently intended to kidnap Vice President Mike Pence and execute him if he didn't overturn their election loss.

The president's supporters stormed into the U.S. Capitol on Wednesday, as Pence presided over the congressional certification of Joe Biden's election win, and video captured some of them threatening to execute the vice president -- who Trump had singled out in a speech just minutes before they burst into the building.
"Hang Mike Pence, hang Mike Pence," the crowd chanted as alarms sounded after the mob broke into the Capitol.
Yes, there is video with audio.
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So what? There's so much more serious stuff they're guilty of this doesn't matter.
 
The American Abyss - The New York Times
In this sense, the responsibility for Trump’s push to overturn an election must be shared by a very large number of Republican members of Congress. Rather than contradict Trump from the beginning, they allowed his electoral fiction to flourish. They had different reasons for doing so. One group of Republicans is concerned above all with gaming the system to maintain power, taking full advantage of constitutional obscurities, gerrymandering and dark money to win elections with a minority of motivated voters. They have no interest in the collapse of the peculiar form of representation that allows their minority party disproportionate control of government. The most important among them, Mitch McConnell, indulged Trump’s lie while making no comment on its consequences.

Yet other Republicans saw the situation differently: They might actually break the system and have power without democracy. The split between these two groups, the gamers and the breakers, became sharply visible on Dec. 30, when Senator Josh Hawley announced that he would support Trump’s challenge by questioning the validity of the electoral votes on Jan. 6. Ted Cruz then promised his own support, joined by about 10 other senators. More than a hundred Republican representatives took the same position. For many, this seemed like nothing more than a show: challenges to states’ electoral votes would force delays and floor votes but would not affect the outcome.

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On the surface, a conspiracy theory makes its victim look strong: It sees Trump as resisting the Democrats, the Republicans, the Deep State, the pedophiles, the Satanists. More profoundly, however, it inverts the position of the strong and the weak. Trump’s focus on alleged “irregularities” and “contested states” comes down to cities where Black people live and vote. At bottom, the fantasy of fraud is that of a crime committed by Black people against white people.

It’s not just that electoral fraud by African-Americans against Donald Trump never happened. It is that it is the very opposite of what happened, in 2020 and in every American election. As always, Black people waited longer than others to vote and were more likely to have their votes challenged. They were more likely to be suffering or dying from Covid-19, and less likely to be able to take time away from work. The historical protection of their right to vote has been removed by the Supreme Court’s 2013 ruling in Shelby County v. Holder, and states have rushed to pass measures of a kind that historically reduce voting by the poor and communities of color.
Then the precarious truce between system gamers and system breakers in the Republican Party.
At first, Trump seemed like a threat to this balance. His lack of experience in politics and his open racism made him a very uncomfortable figure for the party; his habit of continually telling lies was initially found by prominent Republicans to be uncouth. Yet after he won the presidency, his particular skills as a breaker seemed to create a tremendous opportunity for the gamers. Led by the gamer in chief, McConnell, they secured hundreds of federal judges and tax cuts for the rich.
MMC wrote a book called "The Long Game", and he acts that part very well. He supposedly tried to convince some Federal judges to retire so that they could be replaced by younger ones.

Trump is just the opposite, almost hopelessly impulsive. He doesn't like to read detailed briefing papers, and his staffers claim that he is easy to manipulate by deciding what to put on his desk, and by appearing on Fox & Friends. MMC allegedly considers Trump not very smart and "nuts", and I suspect that MMC may also think that Trump is lazy and undisciplined.
 
Trump was unlike other breakers in that he seemed to have no ideology. His objection to institutions was that they might constrain him personally. He intended to break the system to serve himself — and this is partly why he has failed. Trump is a charismatic politician and inspires devotion not only among voters but among a surprising number of lawmakers, but he has no vision that is greater than himself or what his admirers project upon him. In this respect his pre-fascism fell short of fascism: His vision never went further than a mirror. He arrived at a truly big lie not from any view of the world but from the reality that he might lose something.
He liked to say "Make America Great Again", but that's about it.

"It is hard to think of a comparable insurrectionary moment, when a building of great significance was seized, that involved so much milling around."

Which makes this incident especially weird.
If you claim that the other side has cheated, and your supporters believe you, they will expect you to cheat yourself. By defending Trump’s big lie on Jan. 6, they set a precedent: A Republican presidential candidate who loses an election should be appointed anyway by Congress. Republicans in the future, at least breaker candidates for president, will presumably have a Plan A, to win and win, and a Plan B, to lose and win. No fraud is necessary; only allegations that there are allegations of fraud. Truth is to be replaced by spectacle, facts by faith.

Trump’s coup attempt of 2020-21, like other failed coup attempts, is a warning for those who care about the rule of law and a lesson for those who do not. His pre-fascism revealed a possibility for American politics. For a coup to work in 2024, the breakers will require something that Trump never quite had: an angry minority, organized for nationwide violence, ready to add intimidation to an election. Four years of amplifying a big lie just might get them this. To claim that the other side stole an election is to promise to steal one yourself. It is also to claim that the other side deserves to be punished.
 
Josh Campbell on Twitter: "This is what the pro-Trump mob did to American law enforcement officers after the President incited a deadly riot at the U.S. Capitol

(warning, graphic video) https://t.co/4RNsZQAYbh" / Twitter

Showing rioters crushing a cop at a door.
Adam Schiff on Twitter: "We can fortify the defenses of the Capitol.

We can reinforce doors and put up fences.

But we cannot guard our democracy against those who walk the halls of the Capitol, have taken an oath to uphold our Constitution, but refuse to do so." / Twitter


Senator Jeff Merkley on Twitter: "The point has been made & worth repeating: The difference in how Black Lives Matter protestors were treated vs how insurrectionists were is universes apart—tear gas vs selfies. It’s the reality that Black & Brown Americans have lived with for too long. It’s time to change that." / Twitter

Congresswoman Cori Bush on Twitter: "98% of the calls my office has received from Missouri’s 1st District about my resolution to expel—and also @Ilhan and my resolution to impeach—have been in support.

St. Louis, I hear you loud and clear. We’re in this fight together." / Twitter


Rep. Pramila Jayapal on Twitter: "To those who tell me that Trump only has 11 more days in office, I say that's 11 days too many.

He incited and fueled a deadly assault on our Capitol, country, and democracy. He needs to be removed immediately. We must impeach him right now." / Twitter



The Intercept on Twitter: "Rep. @CoriBush’s fellow progressive Squad members — Reps. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Ayanna Pressley, Rashida Tlaib, Ilhan Omar, Jamaal Bowman, and Mondaire Jones — are among the measure’s current backers. https://t.co/lrS6TEDEhd" / Twitter
noting
Cori Bush: Republicans Fueling Capitol Mob Must Be Held Accountable - "Bush spoke to The Intercept about her resolution to investigate members of Congress who sought to overturn the election results."
 
The Capitol Attack Doesn’t Justify Expanding Surveillance | WIRED - "The security state that failed to keep DC safe doesn't need invasive technology to meet this moment—it needs more civilian oversight."

People eyes or electronic eyes. One's just more error prone and subject to biases. There is nothing wrong with surveillance when it is used properly. We assume government will abuse it. This does not have to be. We are capable of putting the safeties in place to protect rights and ensure privacy. Making such assumptions makes for a more dangerous society.

and there's the fire extinguisher killer--no word on him yet

Surveillance, perhaps facial recognition with the ability to identify people while wearing masks might just identify this "fire extinguisher killer".
 
Referring to Rep. Bush_Resolution Condemning Republican Efforts to Overturn Election - DocumentCloud

Here is some of it:
Whereas despite losing the popular vote by more than 7,000,000 votes, Donald J. Trump, together with Republican Members of Congress, have commenced a near daily assault on the legitimacy of the 2020 election that includes filing frivolous lawsuits seeking to have election results invalidated and the outcome overturned, and making unsubstantiated claims of systematic election and voter fraud;

Whereas in a politically motivated and last-ditch effort to overthrow the election, over 140 Members of Congress, led by Representative Mo Brooks of Alabama, Senator Josh Hawley of Missouri, and Senator Ted Cruz of Texas, have taken unprecedented steps to defy the will of the American people who overwhelmingly voted for President-elect Joe Biden and Vice President-elect Kamala Harris by voting against the certification of the votes of the Electoral College;

Whereas the decision by Republican Members of Congress to join efforts to invalidate votes in Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin suppresses the votes of millions of people, including Black, Brown, and Indigenous people who turned out in historic numbers to deliver this victory to President-elect Joe Biden and Vice President-elect Kamala Harris;
and closing with
Resolved, That—

(1) the Committee on Ethics shall investigate, and issue a report on, whether any and all actions taken by Members of the 117th Congress who sought to overturn the 2020 Presidential election violated their oath of office to uphold the Constitution or the Rules of the House of Representatives, and should face sanction, including removal from the House of Representatives; and

(2) the House of Representatives condemns all targeted and malicious efforts to disenfranchise Black, Brown, and Indigenous voters.
Not outright expulsion, but investigation.
 
From the article,
In an interview on Friday, Bush told The Intercept that she had been contemplating the resolution even before her official swearing-in last Sunday. “We need to hold our Republican colleagues accountable for what we feel is an attack on our democracy,” she said.

...
Bush’s fellow progressive Squad members — Reps. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Ayanna Pressley, Rashida Tlaib, Ilhan Omar, Jamaal Bowman, and Mondaire Jones — are among the measure’s 32 current backers. The resolution’s other co-sponsors include Reps. Barbara Lee, Marie Newman, Mark Pocan, Bill Pascrell, and Bobby Rush. Justice Democrats, the group that supported several Squad members in their runs for Congress, backed the measure, as did Brand New Congress, Ady Barkan’s Be A Hero, Mijente, and the Center for Popular Democracy.
From the interview, "And then also, just looking at it from the side of the protester, I saw things happening that I know that I myself could not have gotten away with and have been brutalized for less. So it was very difficult."

So she's saying that those attackers got off easy. She also described how she learned of the attack, when she was returning to her office.
After you announced the resolution, some raised concerns about free speech, including that the resolution could be turned around on Democrats in the future as a way to penalize them for making unpopular votes. What do you say to that criticism?

I say that right now we need to move, and we need to move quick. I say that the fact that we have support from other Congress members who are more seasoned than I am, that understand the ramifications of this, I feel like that is why we need to move forward. And I do, I understand that we want to make sure that we don’t put ourselves in a position to where this can then be turned on us later. But if we don’t do something right now — because before Donald Trump was even inaugurated in 2016, I wanted him out. You know? So before he even took the seat, I was ready for him to go. Had I been in Congress then, I would’ve been calling for his impeachment immediately. So I wouldn’t have been one of the ones that had to go back and forth, and sit on the sidelines, and we’re gonna wait, and all the waiting happened, and then it finally happened. And so I believe the same thing here. Donald Trump has only a few days left in his seat. And when we talk about those Republican members of Congress, their work is happening right now. So we have to do that right now.
 
Ashli Babbitt’s journey to the Capitol, where the Trump and QAnon supporter was fatally shot by police - The Washington Post

How online rage and real-world violence collided in Capitol siege - The Washington Post - Online rage and real-world violence collided in the siege, with deadly consequences: “It’s a new age of terrorism that can’t exist without the Internet.”
By Thursday morning, though, different moods had set in on this and other pro-Trump forums. Anger and gloating were still there, but so was unease at the furious public and political backlash against the events of the day before, which led to dozens of arrests and left one person fatally shot by police and three people dead after medical emergencies. Some posters worried their favorite forums, including TheDonald, would get knocked offline by chastened Internet service providers. There also was a pitched effort to redirect blame against left-wing activists, such as antifa, for somehow dressing up as marauding Trump supporters — a claim that was obviously ridiculous to anyone who watched the events unfold on their televisions, computers or smartphones.

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In the aftermath, pro-Trump forums wavered between glee, deflection and recrimination, shunting blame for the chaos onto a mass of scapegoats. They blamed Vice President Pence, for not subverting the reality of Trump’s loss, and old foes like Democrats, the media and the “deep state.” They also blamed the Capitol Police and other members of law enforcement.

Police departments are investigating officers who took part in Capitol incident - The Washington Post - like in CA, WA, and TX.
 
Some Pro-Trump Rioters Wanted More Violence - The Atlantic
It Was Supposed to Be So Much Worse

And the threat to the U.S. government hasn’t passed.

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On the West Lawn of the Capitol Wednesday, a man in a pom-pom beanie clamored for blood. “Execute the traitors!” he shouted into a megaphone. “I wanna see executions!”

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Before the protest, pro-Trump radicals had posted online about their intentions to kill Vice President Mike Pence. They brought zip ties and wore Kevlar vests.

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Already, Trump-supporting zealots online are promising to return to Washington around Inauguration Day.

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The rioters didn’t shoot any lawmakers, but Wild was close to real danger. A screaming mob had forced its way into the Capitol on the west side, and more people were climbing through the broken windows of the east entrance. A group led by a man in a QAnon T-shirt chased a police officer up to the second floor, chanting and demanding to speak with senators. Some wore tactical gear—helmets, armor, and black masks covering their entire face. It was easy to miss them with all the coverage of the costumes and poop-smearing and poses struck in Statuary Hall, but they were there, these military-styled men, carrying blunt instruments and fistfuls of zip ties, better known as flex cuffs, capable of restraining hostages. At least one was an Air Force combat veteran, The New Yorker reported. They seemed to act with purpose and knew their way around the Capitol. One carried a semiautomatic weapon and 11 Molotov cocktails. Later, police officers found the two pipe bombs. The devices were outside the buildings housing the Democratic and Republican National Committees, just blocks from the Capitol. Federal agents discovered a truck full of rifles, shotguns, and bomb-making supplies parked outside the RNC headquarters.

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But despite all the chatter about storming the Capitol and the general call for violence, most of the insurrectionists did not appear to have a clear blueprint for action—and the ones who seemed to have a plan were driven off by police reinforcements. Rioters killed a police officer, but they failed to follow through on their threats toward political leaders.
Yes, that's an odd bit. Most of them didn't seem very well organized, and with their lack of success in getting to any Congresspeople, they seemed content to stay in the building.
 
Rioters Taking Over The Capitol Planned It Online
“On TheDonald, more than 50% of the top posts on January 4, 2021, about the January 6th Electoral College certification featured unmoderated calls for violence in the top five responses,” the organization found.

“ARMED WITH RIFLE, HANDGUN, 2 KNIVES AND AS MUCH AMMO AS YOU CAN CARRY,” one post on the website said.

This was also the case on Parler, ADI found. One account, with the name No Trump No Peace #GoTime, posted a GIF with a noose and a caption that said, “Who would you like to see 'dispatched' first? 1) Nancy Pelosi 2) John Roberts 3) Pence 4) other (please name) I was leaning towards Nancy, but it might have to be Pence.” (Two days after that post, a livestream of the violent mob standing outside Congress showed them chanting “Hang Mike Pence.”)

DA Rocah Calls For Full Investigation Into Chaos At The Capitol | Black Westchester Magazine

Bill McKibben on Twitter: "Following the lead of Vermont's GOP governor, the state's legislature votes overwhelmingly to demand Trump's removal. Senate votes 29-1, House 130-16. Thank you. (article link)" / Twitter


All In with Chris Hayes on Twitter: ""I believe they have blood on their hands. And no one should forget that," says Rep. Ilhan Omar of the Republicans who enabled Trump's anti-democratic fallacies. https://t.co/7L8XesLRpe" / Twitter
noting
Rep. Omar says Republicans who enabled Trump ‘have blood on their hands’
 
Wolf Blitzer on Twitter: "Before the pro-Trump mob stormed Capitol Hill, Rudy Giuliani said there should be “trial by combat” in opposing @JoeBiden’s win: “If we’re wrong, we will be made fools of. But if we’re right, a lot of them will go to jail.” Well, look at how many rioters are now heading to jail." / Twitter
then
Ted Lieu on Twitter: "We will hold responsible everyone involved with the attempted coup, including the attorney to @POTUS, Rudy Giuliani.

Letter from Rep @MondaireJones and me to New York State Bar requesting they investigate @RudyGiulianli to disbar him. (image link)" / Twitter

then
Mondaire Jones on Twitter: "Rudy Giuliani’s incitement of a riot at the Capitol should bring an end to his destructive legal career.

The legal profession can’t tolerate sedition in its ranks if it hopes to maintain the faith of the American people. Check out my letter with Rep. @tedlieu to the NYS Bar👇🏿" / Twitter

(above tweets)

Robert Reich on Twitter: "Do Republicans really think impeaching Trump will "divide the country" more than their challenging Biden's win did?" / Twitter


West Virginia Lawmaker Who Filmed Self Storming Capitol To Face Charges | HuffPost - "Federal prosecutors will charge right-wing legislator Derrick Evans and others with entering a restricted area and entering the Capitol."
Nick Ochs, the leader of the Hawaii chapter of the far-right group Proud Boys, and Kristina Malimon, the vice chair for the Young Republicans of Oregon, were also reportedly arrested for their involvement in the riot.

Malimon gained infamy earlier this year when a Trump boat parade she helped organize led to the sinking of a family’s boat. Malimon’s 54-year-old mother was also arrested.
 
Rep. Don Beyer on Twitter: "Kevin McCarthy should resign." / Twitter
Kevin McCarthy should resign.

Hawley and Cruz deserve to be held accountable, but they are back-benchers.

What Kevin McCarthy did was just as bad, but he is Minority Leader. Every House Republican voted to make him Speaker, and when he led his caucus into an attack on our democracy two thirds followed him.

Kevin McCarthy embraced and empowered the worst conspiracy theorists in his caucus. He spread the very lies that helped incite this violence. He stood shoulder to shoulder with Trump in trying to destroy our democracy. He always enables Trump's worst and most destructive acts.

After terrorists shed blood in our Capitol, Kevin McCarthy went to the House Floor and led the renewed attack on our democracy. He echoed Trump's incendiary lies and dehumanizing attacks on political opponents, and now claims to oppose "division?" No.

Kevin McCarthy must resign.
He voted for both challenges to electoral-vote counts, those for AZ and PA.
 
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