Legal definition of woman is based on biological sex, UK supreme court rules

[seanie]

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Which is not remotely the same search he did.

No shit.

Who said it was?

Are you adding anything to the discussion with this comment?

My post, showing exactly what I searched for, was in response to being called a liar.

Is calling people liars adding much to the discussion?

 

[Loren Pechtel]

And, in practical terms, even if the higher rates of male violence and sexual offending are purely a product of society, how does that impact on safeguarding policies?

Because the most pressing issue is do males pose more of a threat as a class, not why they might do so.

I would add to that, are assaults more likely to happen in restrooms than in other places? There are so many things to consider when studying crime other than the sex of the people involved

So far nobody's presented an actual case from a female-presenting person in a women's room.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Let me get straight to the matter, shall I?

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Not always the right answer, but the pearl clutching never is. And too much fear isn't a good answer, either. When fear is the driving factor one is likely to run from the minor problem right into the major one.

 

[TomC]

So far nobody's presented an actual case from a female-presenting person in a women's room.

Anybody know how trans woman Hannah Tubbs was presenting when she sexually assaulted the girl in the restroom at a restaurant? I do not.
Tom

 

[WAB]

So far nobody's presented an actual case from a female-presenting person in a women's room.

Anybody know how trans woman Hannah Tubbs was presenting when she sexually assaulted the girl in the restroom at a restaurant? I do not.
Tom

What I recall is that Tubbs claimed to identify as a woman only after being arrested, but this could be incorrect.

 

[seanie]

And, in practical terms, even if the higher rates of male violence and sexual offending are purely a product of society, how does that impact on safeguarding policies?

Because the most pressing issue is do males pose more of a threat as a class, not why they might do so.

I would add to that, are assaults more likely to happen in restrooms than in other places? There are so many things to consider when studying crime other than the sex of the people involved

So far nobody's presented an actual case from a female-presenting person in a women's room.

Katie Dolatowski

 

[seanie]

Not a single example…

 

[Toni]

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Let's consider that one some more.

Frame #3, what you are missing is that it removes any incentive to better yourself. You'll get the same results if you put in effort or don't

And all the frames--you think stealing is justice? Why are they going to put on a ball game if they're not paid to do so?

Wow. Just wow.

I am continually amazed at just how far you will contort yourself to justify a status quo that inordinately favors you, a white heterosexual male with blonde hair and I’m assuming blue eyes. I am assuming you are also an only child.

You see kids stealing. I see an illustration for the differences in privilege, equality, equity and justice. Apparently for you, justice means stealing, and the only value to anything is limiting its access, no matter who is hurt.

You assume the baseball game is being performed for pay. Apparently you never engaged in team sports, either.

 

[seanie]

A white heterosexual male with blonde hair that just over half the population of the world is attracted to.

Let’s not forget that.

 

[TomC]

A white heterosexual male with blonde hair that just over half the population of the world is attracted to.

Let’s not forget that.

Probably it would take people like me to reach "over half of population".

Fit daddy types are my favorite. Folks like me might cancel out the wimmins going "Ew!"
Tom

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Ah, I see what the problem is: all this time you thought I was the one who brought up the topic of the guy hearing her? I brought up peeing; therefore peeing had something to do with her reasoning;

The problem with the anecdote, the best I remember it, is that it was described but included nothing about her motivation or the context.
Someone asserted that she's probably a prude. I pointed out that she might be the victim of a nasty trauma in the past. There are other possibilities though. Maybe it was a political statement about office politics. "I don't like the new boss and they said that male women are now entitled to use the women's restroom. I'll just go out to my car and hang curtains so everyone knows I am pissed!*"

Honestly, the idea of a woman peeing in her car is kinda over the top. How would one even do that? It's easy if you're a guy, I've peed in my car while driving it highway speed. But I have male fixtures, it was not even difficult.
Tom

*Pun intended

Parked car, what's the problem? Bedpans exist. Female urinals exist. I'm not seeing how this is supposed to be difficult?

(Driving, though--car seats are typically sloped towards the rear. And my plumbing isn't going to hang off the edge of the seat while sitting there. I'm not seeing how to ensure it all ends up in whatever container you are using. Not driving, I've done it--do I take the direct route that has no business of any kind, or add 20 minutes swinging past a gas station?)

 

[Toni]

A white heterosexual male with blonde hair that just over half the population of the world is attracted to.

Let’s not forget that.

Speak for yourself. Loren ain’t my type.

 

[TomC]

A white heterosexual male with blonde hair that just over half the population of the world is attracted to.

Let’s not forget that.

Speak for yourself. Loren ain’t my type.

Like I told him,
It's would probably take a bunch of gay guys like me to reach "half the population".

Even then, no guarantees.
Tom

 

[Loren Pechtel]

The fact that the harm in this context falls pretty much entirely on women doesn't seem to bother you one teensy little bit. Why is that?

What harm? Making people feel uncomfortable? You think that only women ever feel uncomfortable?

And are they uncomfortable for good reason, or out of conditioned fear?

 

[Toni]

The fact that the harm in this context falls pretty much entirely on women doesn't seem to bother you one teensy little bit. Why is that?

What harm? Making people feel uncomfortable? You think that only women ever feel uncomfortable?

And are they uncomfortable for good reason, or out of conditioned fear?

I’m not certain that you could understand that it is reasonable to fear what you’ve been conditioned to fear. Or what it takes to be afraid of something.

 

[Jarhyn]

And, in practical terms, even if the higher rates of male violence and sexual offending are purely a product of society, how does that impact on safeguarding policies?

Because the most pressing issue is do males pose more of a threat as a class, not why they might do so.

I would add to that, are assaults more likely to happen in restrooms than in other places? There are so many things to consider when studying crime other than the sex of the people involved

So far nobody's presented an actual case from a female-presenting person in a women's room.

I'll give you one: in Disney world, someone who is a grand embarrassment to the trans community, in Florida (oh, big surprise there) for going to Disney world, dropping trow in the bathroom, and taking pictures of her genitals in full view of others there, including minors, and making herself a general Phelps level nuisance of her existence

She got arrested, of course; I would expect anyone doing similar no matter their genitals to be arrested, but it's going to be this big thing at some point soon. She's the exception that proves the rule, as it were, but it will be sold as the face of trans people, when she has for years been told by trans people to stop being such a massive piece of shit.

 

[scombrid]

Lewd is lewd yeah? Are trans people being allowed in a bathroom really causing a significant risk in there being a free pass for assholes to assault people? While we clutch pearls and hunt for cases of bathroom lewdness and assault by people hiding under the trans veil are we dealing with pussy grabbers like Trump and Keggy? It’s like focusing all the attention on stranger danger while uncle Joe and the priests run amok.

 

[scombrid]

And guess what happens while this topic sucks all the air out of the room? EPA gutted. Consumer Financial protection gone. NIH and CDC gone…….

 

[Jarhyn]

Lewd is lewd yeah? Are trans people being allowed in a bathroom really causing a significant risk in there being a free pass for assholes to assault people? While we clutch pearls and hunt for cases of bathroom lewdness and assault by people hiding under the trans veil are we dealing with pussy grabbers like Trump and Keggy? It’s like focusing all the attention on stranger danger while uncle Joe and the priests run amok.

Pretty much.

What we should have been doing 10, 20, 30 years ago was branding them as the people waging a culture war.

The problem with this is that it will never work with so many false theologians preaching from a literal pulpit that the war is being waged by the left, when the only people actually talking about it are the cons.

 

[seanie]

“Pipe down ladies.

You just have to accept men who say they’re women in women’s prisons, refuges, changing rooms, rape counselling sessions, hospital wards, restrooms, intimate care settings, and sport.

Can’t you see there are more important things to worry about?”