Liberals are exactly as bad!

[fast]

https://youtu.be/Gs9afJV84tc

Was the assailant identified and arrested?

I don't know. He needs to be.

I stumbled on that and posted thinking it could potentially add a tad more insight than the gif itself.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Every year the ninja outfit wearing Black Bloc comes to Seattle. I've seen them on the street. They have homemade weapons and use Molotov Cocktails. They try and provoke police violence.

They used to cause a lot of damage and trouble. The Seattle police developed tactics to limit their actions without excessive force.

Liberals now seem to routinely resort to vigilante mob rule tactics using social media against anyone contrary to an ideology. God forbid you make an offhand remark deemed racist. The thought police is coming from the left not right.

The far left and right are equally harmful.

Well, once the far left have a caucus in the House and seats in the Senate and a spokesperson living at the White House, I'll give a fuck about your false equivalency.

 

[prideandfall]

It seems like the question really boils down to whether you believe there are acceptable justifications for violence. You can't really sort out who is "worse" or "just as bad" until you determine whether there is an acceptable use of force and under what conditions it's necessary.

in this instance the 'you' in question is broadly people with right-wing thinking (at least i assume so, based on the context) and the answer is actually quite simple.
this is pretty much how the conservative "logic" works with regards to violence:
1. human life is inherently sacred, therefor any violence against human life is morally wrong on its face.
2. "human life" is categorized by a scaling hierarchy, in which only the first 2 items on the list really count, and any other position on the scale means that you may or may not count as human life depending on the extent to which you have annoyed them that day - conservative white men > conservative white men's property >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conservative women >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vaguely brownish people >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> black people >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people who think the purpose of civilization as we know it is to better the lives of everyone living within society.
3. violating the covenant of the sanctity of human life immediately justifies lethal force against whomever did so.
4. violating that covenant includes: theft, unkind words, being present in one's line of eyesight, "thuggery", liberalism.

so basically any aggression or antagonism towards conservative white men or their property is morally unacceptable and immediate grounds for being murdered.
violence against any other group is fine so long as no conservative white men are claiming them as their property.

 

[Underseer]

I would like to thank all the conservatives and libertarians (who are completely different, honest) for rushing to the defense of Nazis in this thread. If only you lot were this honest all the time.

 

[Derec]

I would like to thank all the conservatives and libertarians (who are completely different, honest) for rushing to the defense of Nazis in this thread. If only you lot were this honest all the time.

It's not "defense of Nazis". It's defense of everybody who is attacked violently. Political violence has no place in a democracy. Even if it comes from the Left.

 

[bilby]

I would like to thank all the conservatives and libertarians (who are completely different, honest) for rushing to the defense of Nazis in this thread. If only you lot were this honest all the time.

It's not "defense of Nazis". It's defense of everybody who is attacked violently. Political violence has no place in a democracy. Even if it comes from the Left.

Well unless you are planning to move to a democracy, I am not sure how your response here is relevant.

 

[Trausti]

I would like to thank all the conservatives and libertarians (who are completely different, honest) for rushing to the defense of Nazis in this thread. If only you lot were this honest all the time.

It's not "defense of Nazis". It's defense of everybody who is attacked violently. Political violence has no place in a democracy. Even if it comes from the Left.

Well unless you are planning to move to a democracy, I am not sure how your response here is relevant.

Wow. So you're okay with the use of violence against people who have a different political viewpoint. If someone punched you for your views that'd be fine, right?

 

[bilby]

Well unless you are planning to move to a democracy, I am not sure how your response here is relevant.

Wow. So you're okay with the use of violence against people who have a different political viewpoint. If someone punched you for your views that'd be fine, right?

Your conclusion doesn't follow in any way from what I said.

I am not "okay with the use of violence against people who have a different political viewpoint". Indeed what I said in no way even raises that question; Your response is a total non-sequitur.

For the record, now that you have changed the subject to this topic, I am in favour of the use of violence against Nazis, which is a position predicated not on their political thinking, but rather on their espousal of violence (including genocide) as a means to achieve their objectives.

It's called 'self defence'.

I have no idea what prompted you to go off on this tangent. Nothing in my post mentioned Nazis, politics, violence, or the use of force.

 

[Trausti]

Well unless you are planning to move to a democracy, I am not sure how your response here is relevant.

Wow. So you're okay with the use of violence against people who have a different political viewpoint. If someone punched you for your views that'd be fine, right?

Your conclusion doesn't follow in any way from what I said.

I am not "okay with the use of violence against people who have a different political viewpoint". Indeed what I said in no way even raises that question; Your response is a total non-sequitur.

For the record, now that you have changed the subject to this topic, I am in favour of the use of violence against Nazis, which is a position predicated not on their political thinking, but rather on their espousal of violence (including genocide) as a means to achieve their objectives.

It's called 'self defence'.

I have no idea what prompted you to go off on this tangent. Nothing in my post mentioned Nazis, politics, violence, or the use of force.

You're giving license to use violence against those whose views you oppose. Do not complain or bicker when a Nazi also uses force against a non-violent opponent because you, right here, have said it is okay.

 

[bilby]

Your conclusion doesn't follow in any way from what I said.

I am not "okay with the use of violence against people who have a different political viewpoint". Indeed what I said in no way even raises that question; Your response is a total non-sequitur.

For the record, now that you have changed the subject to this topic, I am in favour of the use of violence against Nazis, which is a position predicated not on their political thinking, but rather on their espousal of violence (including genocide) as a means to achieve their objectives.

It's called 'self defence'.

I have no idea what prompted you to go off on this tangent. Nothing in my post mentioned Nazis, politics, violence, or the use of force.

You're giving license to use violence against those whose views you oppose. Do not complain or bicker when a Nazi also uses force against a non-violent opponent because you, right here, have said it is okay.

Horseshit.

I am giving licence to defend oneself against those whose views explicitly call for unprovoked violence against others.

You are advocating extreme pacifism. I am confident that your position is dangerously wrong.

Tolerating intolerance is a recipe for disaster.

 

[laughing dog]

For the record, now that you have changed the subject to this topic, I am in favour of the use of violence against Nazis, which is a position predicated not on their political thinking, but rather on their espousal of violence (including genocide) as a means to achieve their objectives.

But you forget that there are good people among Nazis. We know this because the idol of all Trumpsuckers said so.