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Yes the vast conspiracy from the Clinton machine was to get Trump to brag about behavior that is criminal, ten years ago.
That's some machine those Clinton's have.
That's some machine those Clinton's have.
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To the answer the OP question, I have not heard in person anyone ever boast about committing sexual assault.
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Then Derec is a moron. If I pull out a gun and tell him to give me his wallet, will he "LET ME" take it?
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With a few billion dollars in his pocket will ensure women will let a male do the stuff regular guys don't do.
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One time. Not in a locker room. I was about seventeen, doing the Colorado Outward Bound. So, campfire talk.
This guy complained about having his stereo stolen when he hosted parties, but he said he made up for it when he went to went to other people's parties and stole their stereos.
Then he talked about picking up a girl at a party, and taking her out somewhere and having sex, and then taking her back to the party and picking up another one, over and over as long as the party went on.
He said that if she resisted, he would--and I really don't remember the details here--maybe he put pressure on her elbow with his elbow. Something like that. He hurt her so that she'd let him have his way.
He recounted it with the impersonal you, "So then you just press on her joint until she quits fighting," as if everyone does it that way.
I don't recall anyone saying anything in response. There was certainly no Billy Bush laughing along.
The Trump defense never occurred to me: I do not believe he was a nice guy pretending to be a sociopath so that we'd like him.
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And why would that be the case?
Uncontrollable attraction to riches? Yeah sure - they're all just high-priced whores who never got paid.
Or maybe, just maybe, fear of the consequences of resisting might have something to do with their "willingness".
An assailant with practically unlimited resources, who is well known to be a vengeful, spiteful, dishonest creep, might not be someone whose unwanted advances a rational woman would decide to publicize.
Kinda like if you (presumably not a vengeful, spiteful, dishonest creep with unlimited resources) pulled a gun on the victim and threatened to shoot her family if she ever opened her mouth.
And remember, WP (and Derec, who seems to have run away) - he wasn't saying he COULD do these things, he said he DOES:
"I DON'T EVEN WAIT"
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That's funny.
There's been a lot of discussion here that if people have sex and the woman afterwards decides she didn't want to have sex, it should NOT be counted as rape, and she shouldn't be able to press charges.
But if the Donald grabs at woman, and she decides afterwards that it was okay, or at least that she's not going to press charges, it SHOULD be counted as consensual.
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I don't think it's one bit funny. "I don't even wait" are either the words of an insecure braggart or those of a serial sexual assault criminal.
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There was one kid back as a freshman in High School, who used to brag about his sexual escapades with some of the girls at school. He was always presenting himself as the object of their desire though, and never made it seem like he was forcing himself on them. We didn't believe half the shit he told us, but he was the biggest kid in the class, so no one was going to challenge him on it. Fast forward 30 years, and I had to block him from Facebook because of the shit he used to post about Obama. I can only assume he is a yuge Trump supporter right now.
In the locker rooms at the gym as an adult, there is very little talk between the guys, because no one really knows each other. We might talk briefly about sport scores, how our workout went, or how we can't wait to go get some food, but nothing about sex at all. That's because we are adults now, not freshmen in HS, and there is very little reason to talk about our virility, because most of us have gotten past our sexual insecurities.
TSwizzle
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Trump is a pig for sure but I don't see his statement being an admission of anything. In context, he's trying to be a showoff.
Elixir
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So he's just a liar and a braggart. "I don't even wait" was just something he thought he could impress Billy Bush with. Yuh-huh. That settles it - I gotta vote for Trump. We need a bragging liar who is clueless about macro-economics and foreign affairs to Make America Great Again.
TSwizzle
I am unburdened by what has been.
I would say Trump is exaggerating.
I'd say that Mr Trump is himself a hugely exaggerated copy of our dreadful Bliar, who not only constantly lied but was so far from the truth that he sincerely believed whatever crap was falling out of his mouth.
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Elixir
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Yeah, just like any other would-be rapist is "exaggerating" when boasting of his conquests because his dick is too small to achieve penetration.
CNN's top headline right now is that all of this isn't hurting Trump a whole lot in the polls.
It would seem that the corruption Hillary is accused of is sticking to her more than the sleazeballness of Trump.
It would seem that the corruption Hillary is accused of is sticking to her more than the sleazeballness of Trump.
TSwizzle
I am unburdened by what has been.
I wouldn't know anything about that. As I say, in context, Trump is trying to big himself up which is rather sad in itself but I'm having a hard time getting into a frothing rage about some "locker room banter".
And yet he is even more corrupt. He's the one who bribed an AG. He's the one who bribed NYC officials. He's the one who reneges on contracts. He's the one who had a fraudulent university. He's the one who has a fraudulent foundation. He's the opaque one who is scared to release his taxes. He's the one who deals with foreign governments under the table.
And you fail to discuss any of that so that you can compare "sleazeball" to the unfounded rumors against her.
Crazny.
And you fail to discuss any of that so that you can compare "sleazeball" to the unfounded rumors against her.
Crazny.
Nobody else on the planet is getting into a rage about that either. They're getting into a rage about a guy bragging about committing sexual assault. That's not locker room banter.