Shadowy Man
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Massive Demonstrations Happening In Iran
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Bruh, Iranians been gangsta. You must not have any Iranian friends. The people in the streets aren't all fresh out of diapers for a reason.
Edit: America (like usual) screwed up multiple opportunities to make them allies. I'm not gonna point fingers at any particular party. Because I can't.
Derec
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Choice of causes matters. He chose to kneel over a thug who stabbed a man right after being released on parole for an armed robbery conviction.
Derec
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It had multiple reasons. For example, France giving aid and comfort to Khomeini. Or the Carter administration seeing Khomeini as some kind of saint.
[Carter's delegate to the UN, Andrew] Young Praises Islam as ‘Vibrant’ And Calls the Ayatollah ‘a Saint’
Derec
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That whole derail is false equivalence. Especially since the the 2020 rioters were not "protesting" for basic rights.
laughing dog
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There is no more basic right than the right to life for the living human beings. Protesting to not have the life taken away by a sadistic agent of the state is protesting for a basic right.
Derec
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Mosaddegh wasn't exactly a democrat himself, no matter how much revisionist history wants to make him into one.
Not long before being deposed, he gave himself decree powers and stopped counting of votes so he would not lose the lead.
Stealing US and British assets is also not good. If foreign companies invest in your oil sector, you should not just get to take it.
While the Shah had his faults, the weird beards are 1000x worse. And it is a shame that western counties allowed themselves to be bamboozled by Khomeini.
Derec
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And the people killed during the riots, did they have a "right to life"?
People, including police, make mistakes. And yet, when a black guy is killed by police (or even kills himself while police are pursuing him) #BLMers have been rioting.
They were not just protesting. They were rioting. They were "burning this bitch down". They were looting. They were even killing people.
laughing dog
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Try to focus, the ones killed by rioters did not have their rights violated by the government.
Get a grip on yourself - the vast majority of protesters were not rioting. They were protesting against police violence and the indiscriminate loss of life at the hands of the police. The Floyd killing sparked protests around the world. Clearly, the killing of George Floyd hit a chord across people in different countries, continents and cultures. Moreover, not all of rioters were protesters.
Your depiction is a gross exaggeration and reeks of bigotry.
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Yassmin Abdel-Magied on Twitter: "To be (hijabi) or not be (hijabi) is the business of no state or man. Solidarity with women resisting patriarchal control, the world over.
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She also retweeted AOC on the Iranian protests.
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on Twitter: "One bigoted dissembler after another is tweeting that @IlhanMN is not supporting the protesting women in #Iran. Actually she made her support clear before these cynical phonies knew what was going on, but why let facts get in the way of your expressions of hate? (pic link)" / Twitter
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Yassmin Abdel-Magied on Twitter: "To be (hijabi) or not be (hijabi) is the business of no state or man. Solidarity with women resisting patriarchal control, the world over.
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Mitchell Plitnick
on Twitter: "One bigoted dissembler after another is tweeting that @IlhanMN is not supporting the protesting women in #Iran. Actually she made her support clear before these cynical phonies knew what was going on, but why let facts get in the way of your expressions of hate? (pic link)" / TwitterSubhanallah = Allah is Perfect ~ Glory to Allah ~ How Free of Imperfection is Allah
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Iran schoolgirls remove hijabs in protests against government
Dramatic scenes show teenagers waving headscarves and chanting against clerical authorities.
www.bbc.com
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Weird, won't wear the hijab but will wear a mask outside. 
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That's what you got from that???Weird, won't wear the hijab but will wear a mask outside.
Sigh, I said nothing about rioters. I said protestors. There's a difference. I presume you can tell the difference as well what I'll give you an opportunity to explain is why have you decided without queue to talk about rioters instead of protestors.
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I don't have time to play Whack-a-Mole refuting all the half-truths from the Board's anti-democrats. But I do try to make time to refute a tiny few of the most egregious.
1952 Iranian legislative election:
This is an ignorant summary of Mosaddegh's nationalization. It was Britain which had exploited and even provoked chaos and corruption in Iran to acquire ("steal" if you will) Iran's petroleum in the first place. Second, the nationalization did offer compensation to the British company. A country has the right to possess the country's possessions. Google "eminent domain" if you don't understand this.
If it amuses you to find examples of one country "stealing" from another, you'd get far more incidents if you searched for stealing BY the big Anglophone powers. Heck; Just start with 1953 when CIA and MI6 stole Iran's hard-won democracy from the Iranian people.
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1952 Iranian legislative election:
This is an ignorant summary of Mosaddegh's nationalization. It was Britain which had exploited and even provoked chaos and corruption in Iran to acquire ("steal" if you will) Iran's petroleum in the first place. Second, the nationalization did offer compensation to the British company. A country has the right to possess the country's possessions. Google "eminent domain" if you don't understand this.
If it amuses you to find examples of one country "stealing" from another, you'd get far more incidents if you searched for stealing BY the big Anglophone powers. Heck; Just start with 1953 when CIA and MI6 stole Iran's hard-won democracy from the Iranian people.
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The protests and violent suppression are are not letting up.
www.cnn.com
This is the latest flare up of women's rights protests in Iran since 2017. Iranian protests against compulsory hijab - Wikipedia.
But this has been the largest and most widespread, it's supported by more demographics than the usual urban centers.
www.pbs.org
Odds are still against it making any change, especially lately.
Even as Iranians Rise Up, Protests Worldwide Are Failing at Record Rates - The New York Times.
'It was a warzone.' Iranian security forces beat, shot and detained students of elite Tehran university, witnesses say, as crackdown escalates | CNN
When Farid's friend called crying for help on Sunday, he jumped on his bike and quickly rode to Tehran's Sharif University.
This is the latest flare up of women's rights protests in Iran since 2017. Iranian protests against compulsory hijab - Wikipedia.
But this has been the largest and most widespread, it's supported by more demographics than the usual urban centers.
Iran's anti-veil protests different than previous unrest, activists say
Activists say Iran's current wave of protests are different from previous unrest.
www.pbs.org
Odds are still against it making any change, especially lately.
Even as Iranians Rise Up, Protests Worldwide Are Failing at Record Rates - The New York Times.
Shadowy Man
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You just don't get that being forced to wear a mask is as oppressive as being forced to wear a Hijab under penalty of arrest and potential death. This is serious business, Zipr!!11!That's what you got from that???Weird, won't wear the hijab but will wear a mask outside.
The hijab is a symbol of oppression. The mask is only a symbol of oppression to death cultists.Weird, won't wear the hijab but will wear a mask outside.
I dunno. If you wear a mask outside it’s also a symbol of stupidity.The hijab is a symbol of oppression. The mask is only a symbol of oppression to death cultists.Weird, won't wear the hijab but will wear a mask outside.
I can relate, I think the same about your arguments.I dunno. If you wear a mask outside it’s also a symbol of stupidity.The hijab is a symbol of oppression. The mask is only a symbol of oppression to death cultists.Weird, won't wear the hijab but will wear a mask outside.