Matriarchy at work

[Angry Floof]

Go matriarchy!

Not surprised at all that you would applaud the sexist practice of courts aiding and abetting female fraudsters.

Not surprised at all that your sense of humor is diminished when your brain is busy punishing and blaming.

Also, go matriarchy! So many testicles to snip, so little time!

 

[AthenaAwakened]

matriarchy -- a family, group, or government controlled by a woman or a group of women

This is not matriarchy

This is not even close.

Modern US is much more of a matriarchy than it is a patriarchy.

Prove it.

Show me the numbers.

Show where more women make laws

Show me where more women run the banks

Show me the numbers, show me the history, show me a reason to believe you.

Show me that your problems with the world have anything to do with women and not everything to do with you.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

To keep her from hiding the boyfriend that's the real father--the state wants to go after child support.

Except that she can still hide the boyfriend by accusing any Tom, Dick or Harry who isn't the father.

And when the DNA comes back negative they're back after her for another name.

 

[dismal]

Not a new thing:

http://reason.com/archives/2004/02/01/injustice-by-default/

 

[Draconis]

Also, go matriarchy!

Yes please!

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Even if true...

IE, lets wash over that point.

..., they both perpetrated the fraud with her being the beneficiary. So they should both be punished, with her most severely. Instead only he is punished and she rewarded. I do not see why our system is giving immunity to women perpetrating paternal fraud.

And once again, we settle back to "The system is entirely biased towards the woman".

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Modern US is much more of a matriarchy than it is a patriarchy.

Prove it.

Show me the numbers.

Just look at Congress and Government. When is the last time we had a majority of males in Congress or a male President? Heck, the majority female Congress can't even keep their mind on the job, they are so busy lying about who the fathers of their children are.

 

[Jarhyn]

IE, lets wash over that point.

..., they both perpetrated the fraud with her being the beneficiary. So they should both be punished, with her most severely. Instead only he is punished and she rewarded. I do not see why our system is giving immunity to women perpetrating paternal fraud.

And once again, we settle back to "The system is entirely biased towards the woman".

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Modern US is much more of a matriarchy than it is a patriarchy.

Prove it.

Show me the numbers.

Just look at Congress and Government. When is the last time we had a majority of males in Congress or a male President? Heck, the majority female Congress can't even keep their mind on the job, they are so busy lying about who the fathers of their children are.

I know, and my cunt manager pays all the women at work more than me. Hell, I barely didn't get hired if not for ponying up some man sauce so she could get me paying her all my wages in child support. And now my work is denying Viagra coverage!

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

IE, lets wash over that point.
And once again, we settle back to "The system is entirely biased towards the woman".

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Modern US is much more of a matriarchy than it is a patriarchy.

Prove it.

Show me the numbers.

Just look at Congress and Government. When is the last time we had a majority of males in Congress or a male President? Heck, the majority female Congress can't even keep their mind on the job, they are so busy lying about who the fathers of their children are.

I know, and my cunt manager pays all the women at work more than me. Hell, I barely didn't get hired if not for ponying up some man sauce so she could get me paying her all my wages in child support. And now my work is denying Viagra coverage!

I just wish women could appreciate how hard it is for a man living in a woman's world.

 

[Perspicuo]

I know, and my cunt manager pays all the women at work more than me. Hell, I barely didn't get hired if not for ponying up some man sauce so she could get me paying her all my wages in child support. And now my work is denying Viagra coverage!

 

[Toni]

Obviously there should be some penalty for false accusations. She should at least have to pay the falsely accused men for their time and trouble. There should also be a fine for wasting court's time.
It is certainly preferable to the current system of matriarchal courts presuming any man a woman names is the father even if he never had sex with her with no adverse effects for the woman making these false claims.

Suppose a woman is involved in an intimate relationship with more than one man. Perhaps it is a polyamorous relationship; perhaps she has more casual relationships with more than one man; perhaps she picks up random men and has sex wit them. Any of those scenarios.

She discovers she is pregnant, despite being on birth control pills. She does not know which of the men is actually the father of her child. It is impossible for her to know as she had sex with more than one man within a few days time.

She is also not well paid for her work at Walmart (or wherever) and will need to rely on some public assistance to help provide for her child. The system is insisting she name the father of her child. She cannot name the father of the child as she is uncertain which man fathered the baby. The system insists she provide names of candidates, so she complies.

This is not falsely accusing any of the men who turn out to not be the father of the child. It is not falsely accusing anyone of a criminal act. It is using established medical science to determine the biological male progenitor of the child.

Everyone contributes a blood sample or more probably (and with less accurate results) a cheek swab.

 

[Derec]

Suppose a woman is involved in an intimate relationship with more than one man. Perhaps it is a polyamorous relationship; perhaps she has more casual relationships with more than one man; perhaps she picks up random men and has sex wit them. Any of those scenarios.

She discovers she is pregnant, despite being on birth control pills. She does not know which of the men is actually the father of her child. It is impossible for her to know as she had sex with more than one man within a few days time.

I still do not see why her life choices should place the burden of proof on the man or men she accuses. And there is no downside to her to accuse any man even if she never had sex with them. In fact, she stands to profit from accusing the richest man she knows because that means most child support for her.
If she had sex with several men in the relevant time window she should come clean and admit there are several possibilities instead of categorically stating that one of them is the father.

She is also not well paid for her work at Walmart (or wherever) and will need to rely on some public assistance to help provide for her child. The system is insisting she name the father of her child. She cannot name the father of the child as she is uncertain which man fathered the baby. The system insists she provide names of candidates, so she complies.

She didn't provide the names of "candidates" she flat out stated that the victim here was the father even though she knew he wasn't. That is fraud and she should be prosecuted.

This is not falsely accusing any of the men who turn out to not be the father of the child. It is not falsely accusing anyone of a criminal act. It is using established medical science to determine the biological male progenitor of the child.

She did accuse him of being the father. And at that point, the matriarchal law states that it's up to the man to prove he is not the father. That is bullshit and should be changed.

Everyone contributes a blood sample or more probably (and with less accurate results) a cheek swab.

He wanted to but the courts didn't allow him to because since his guilt is presumed the clock ran out. If the burden of proof were on the woman there would be no fatherhood assignment until such DNA proof was obtained. Instead her word is taken as fact unless proved otherwise within a narrow time window.

 

[ksen]

derec doesn't understand that these types of things are also symptomatic of patriarchism. Because in patriarchism women are treated like property that must be protected.

 

[Derec]

I know, and my cunt manager pays all the women at work more than me.

The claim that women are paid less than men for equal work is a myth. When adjusted for actual types of jobs, experience, education and hours worked the much quoted "73 cents" wage gap disappears in a puff of faux-liberal myths.

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derec doesn't understand that these types of things are also symptomatic of patriarchism. Because in patriarchism women are treated like property that must be protected.

BS. Treating men like second class citizens and treating women preferentially is matriarchy and essence of second wave Dworkinte feminism.

 

[bigfield]

I know, and my cunt manager pays all the women at work more than me.

The claim that women are paid less than men for equal work is a myth. When adjusted for actual types of jobs, experience, education and hours worked the much quoted "73 cents" wage gap disappears in a puff of faux-liberal myths.

I just figured it was because Jarhyn is a lazy shit and the women just do a lot more work than he does.

 

[ksen]

derec doesn't understand that these types of things are also symptomatic of patriarchism. Because in patriarchism women are treated like property that must be protected.

BS. Treating men like second class citizens and treating women preferentially is matriarchy and essence of second wave Dworkinte feminism.

You should go cry to the predominately male executive, legislative and judicial branches of geovernment about it.

 

[Derec]

IE, lets wash over that point.

It's only mentioned in one source. It's kind of like Raising of Lazarus in that regard. No multiple attestation.

And once again, we settle back to "The system is entirely biased towards the woman".

Well it is. He gets punished even though he is not the father. She gets rewarded even though she named the wrong man as the father.

Just look at Congress and Government. When is the last time we had a majority of males in Congress or a male President? Heck, the majority female Congress can't even keep their mind on the job, they are so busy lying about who the fathers of their children are.

It's not the gender of the politicians so much as the laws they are passing. Obama and Biden are males and yet they are forcing universities to adopt the very sexist policy of requiring lowest possible burden of proof for alleged sex assaults and also stripping male students of other due process protections while doing nothing to punish false rape accusers.

 

[dismal]

I remember when the left used to be against the injustice of the legal system punishing the wrongly accused and for the due process rights of indigent defendants.

Or at least when they pretended to be.

 

[Derec]

You should go cry to the predominately male executive, legislative and judicial branches of geovernment about it.

Again, it's not the gender of those people bu the sexist laws and decisions they are passing/making.
Kind of like all the feminist men on this forum that defend things like requiring men to pay child support for children who are not theirs or only for men to register for selective service or innocent college men to easily be expelled based on false rape allegations.

 

[ksen]

I remember when the left used to be against the injustice of the legal system punishing the wrongly accused and for the due process rights of indigent defendants.

Or at least when they pretended to be.

Who is being wrongly accused? The man voluntarily let the woman declare him as the father. If you don't want to be on the hook for child support if you're not the father don't allow the mother to list you as the father.

Seems pretty simple.

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You should go cry to the predominately male executive, legislative and judicial branches of geovernment about it.

Again, it's not the gender of those people bu the sexist laws and decisions they are passing/making.
Kind of like all the feminist men on this forum that defend things like requiring men to pay child support for children who are not theirs or only for men to register for selective service or innocent college men to easily be expelled based on false rape allegations.

And why are they passing those laws? Because they think women are more fragile than men and in need of more protections. Again, classic patriarchy.

 

[laughing dog]

BS. Treating men like second class citizens and treating women preferentially is matriarchy and essence of second wave Dworkinte feminism.

No, treating men like second class citizens and treating women preferentially is discrimination. Matriarchy requires women to be in charge. When you have to redefine words to make an argument, it is clue that the argument is unconvincing.