McConnell's "Freudian" Slips Out

[Metaphor]

the kind of lie that makes me consider someone most dangerous and evil, to be opposed however possible.

I consider McConnell an extremely dangerous, evil, and accomplished liar.

But squealing about an accurate, if inconvenient, statement he made isn't particularly helpful.

Hence why at this point in any response to discussion of such is to repeat a reveal of the full shape of the lie, and how fucking much of a shitsmear he is:

When you pose it as "African Americans" and "all Americans" it's pretty close.

When you pose it as "Minorities and White Americans" it looks a lot different....

...African Americans are not alone in having their vote suppressed.

What McConnell said is not a lie. Please stop compounding your falsehood.

 

[Politesse]

Critical Race Theory does establish that fundamental categorizations of whiteness are pervasive through all strata of society and only loosely correlated to conscious perception of one's own biases; it would certainly anticipate that politicians like McConnell and Biden are likely to make public category errors of this kind regardless of political sympathies. Are we ready to have a mature conversation about CRT yet?

 

[Politesse]

They put more effort into whinging on the internet or marching in parades than doing anything useful.

Out of curiosity, what useful things should they be doing, in your view?

 

[Metaphor]

Critical Race Theory does establish that fundamental categorizations of whiteness are pervasive through all strata of society and only loosely correlated to conscious perception of one's own biases; it would certainly anticipate that politicians like McConnell and Biden are likely to make public category errors of this kind regardless of political sympathies. Are we ready to have a mature conversation about CRT yet?

McConnell didn't make a category error.

 

[Jarhyn]

Please stop compounding your falsehood.

When you pose it as "African Americans" and "all Americans" it's pretty close.

When you pose it as "Minorities and White Americans" it looks a lot different.

...African Americans are not alone in having their vote suppressed.

It is the shape of a lie to say something that will be heard by the listener first wrongly, and only wrongly, knowing they will hear it this way, and hoping for that.

The speaker wishes the listener to think that African Americans are not having their vote suppressed.

African Americans are simply not alone in having their vote suppressed.

 

[Metaphor]

The speaker wishes the listener to think that African Americans are not having their vote suppressed.

They're not, and the evidence that they're not is that they vote at the same rate as the general electorate.

Now, even if McConnell was wrong about "suppression", he might be mistaken, and not have told a lie. Though I understand that some posters on here have extraordinary difficulty in understanding that not all counterfactual statements are lies.

 

[Jarhyn]

The speaker wishes the listener to think that African Americans are not having their vote suppressed.

They're not, and the evidence that they're not is that they vote at the same rate as the general electorate.

Now, even if McConnell was wrong about "suppression", he might be mistaken, and not have told a lie. Though I understand that some posters on here have extraordinary difficulty in understanding that not all counterfactual statements are lies.

I repeat:

When you pose it as "African Americans" and "all Americans" it's pretty close.

When you pose it as "Minorities and White Americans" it looks a lot different.

...African Americans are not alone in having their vote suppressed.

This guy has seen all the statistics broken down by group, unless perhaps he hired someone to find him a statistic that could spin toward that line, and had them just tell him that one statistic.

Somehow this seems worse.

You choose a strange hill to die on, claiming McConnell to spew anything out to the press that he hasn't read first or asked specifically for a misleading statistic as support.

 

[ZiprHead]

The speaker wishes the listener to think that African Americans are not having their vote suppressed.

They're not, and the evidence that they're not is that they vote at the same rate as the general electorate.

Will they be after all these voter suppression laws are enacted?

 

[Metaphor]

This guy has seen all the statistics broken down by group, unless perhaps he hired someone to find him a statistic that could spin toward that line, and had them just tell him that one statistic.

Somehow this seems worse.

You choose a strange hill to die on, claiming McConnell to spew anything out to the press that he hasn't read first or asked specifically for a misleading statistic as support.

Your fantasias are not reality.

 

[Metaphor]

The speaker wishes the listener to think that African Americans are not having their vote suppressed.

They're not, and the evidence that they're not is that they vote at the same rate as the general electorate.

Will they be after all these voter suppression laws are enacted?

There are no voter suppression laws being proposed.

Now if--as the left appears to think--minorities are too stupid and/or lazy to reach the minimum required standard to vote--that will come out in future voting statistics after the alleged "voter suppression" laws are enacted.

 

[Jarhyn]

This guy has seen all the statistics broken down by group, unless perhaps he hired someone to find him a statistic that could spin toward that line, and had them just tell him that one statistic.

Somehow this seems worse.

You choose a strange hill to die on, claiming McConnell to spew anything out to the press that he hasn't read first or asked specifically for a misleading statistic as support.

Your fantasias are not reality.

The certain reality beyond the probable one, that...

The speaker wishes the listener to think that African Americans are not having their vote suppressed.

... Is that

When you pose it as "African Americans" and "all Americans" it's pretty close.

When you pose it as "Minorities and White Americans" it looks a lot different.

...African Americans are not alone in having their vote suppressed.

 

[Metaphor]

This guy has seen all the statistics broken down by group, unless perhaps he hired someone to find him a statistic that could spin toward that line, and had them just tell him that one statistic.

Somehow this seems worse.

You choose a strange hill to die on, claiming McConnell to spew anything out to the press that he hasn't read first or asked specifically for a misleading statistic as support.

Your fantasias are not reality.

The certain reality beyond the probable one, that...

The speaker wishes the listener to think that African Americans are not having their vote suppressed.

... Is that

When you pose it as "African Americans" and "all Americans" it's pretty close.

When you pose it as "Minorities and White Americans" it looks a lot different.

...African Americans are not alone in having their vote suppressed.

Quoting yourself does not make your fantasia a reality.

McConnell did not lie. He uttered a fact. Deal with it.

 

[ZiprHead]

The speaker wishes the listener to think that African Americans are not having their vote suppressed.

They're not, and the evidence that they're not is that they vote at the same rate as the general electorate.

Will they be after all these voter suppression laws are enacted?

There are no voter suppression laws being proposed.

Now if--as the left appears to think--minorities are too stupid and/or lazy to reach the minimum required standard to vote--that will come out in future voting statistics after the alleged "voter suppression" laws are enacted.

Now I know you're trippin'.

 

[Jarhyn]

Quoting yourself does not make your fantasia a reality.

McConnell did not lie. He uttered a fact. Deal with it.

You moaning and rolling and apologizing for McConnell's lies does not change that...

When you pose it as "African Americans" and "all Americans" it's pretty close.

When you pose it as "Minorities and White Americans" it looks a lot different.

...African Americans are not alone in having their vote suppressed.

 

[Metaphor]

Quoting yourself does not make your fantasia a reality.

McConnell did not lie. He uttered a fact. Deal with it.

You moaning and rolling and apologizing for McConnell's lies does not change that...

When you pose it as "African Americans" and "all Americans" it's pretty close.

When you pose it as "Minorities and White Americans" it looks a lot different.

...African Americans are not alone in having their vote suppressed.

McConnell did not lie. He uttered a factual statement. Get over it.

 

[Jarhyn]

McConnell did not lie. He uttered a factual statement. Get over it.

He uttered a factual statement with the clear intent to cover up another factual statement, namely:

When you pose it as "African Americans" and "all Americans" it's pretty close.

When you pose it as "Minorities and White Americans" it looks a lot different.

...African Americans are not alone in having their vote suppressed.

Uttering a statement to cover up another statement, when it is known to cover a statement, is a lie.

I am accusing McConnell of lying, by that definition.

Do you wish to argue that:
"Uttering a statement to cover up another statement, when it is known to cover a statement"

Is not fucked up and evil behavior?

Because with me it's either argue exactly that "Uttering a statement to cover up another statement, when it is known to cover a statement" is or is not "fucked up and evil behavior"

Or

Whether McConnell "Uttered a statement to cover up another statement, when it is known to cover a statement".

We can descend into all the ways that second thing, of he did not know it to cover another thing, not wish to, impute him as an idiot, or as making a racist Freudian slip, or merely insensitive and callous, and none of these things speak to competency as a representative.

I repeat, McConnell Uttered that we don't need to address voter suppression, and his reasoning was that massive, reeking abuse of statistics, complete with a golden studding of sweet corn.

When you pose it as "Minorities and White Americans" it looks a lot different.

...African Americans are not alone in having their vote suppressed.

 

[Metaphor]

McConnell did not lie. He uttered a factual statement. Get over it.

He uttered a factual statement with the clear intent to cover up another factual statement, namely:

When you pose it as "African Americans" and "all Americans" it's pretty close.

When you pose it as "Minorities and White Americans" it looks a lot different.

...African Americans are not alone in having their vote suppressed.

Uttering a statement to cover up another statement, when it is known to cover a statement, is a lie.

I am accusing McConnell of lying, by that definition.

Do you wish to argue that:
"Uttering a statement to cover up another statement, when it is known to cover a statement"

Is not fucked up and evil behavior?

Because with me it's either argue exactly that "Uttering a statement to cover up another statement, when it is known to cover a statement" is or is not "fucked up and evil behavior"

Or

Whether McConnell "Uttered a statement to cover up another statement, when it is known to cover a statement".

We can descend into all the ways that second thing, of he did not know it to cover another thing, not wish to, impute him as an idiot, or as making a racist Freudian slip, or merely insensitive and callous, and none of these things speak to competency as a representative.

I repeat, McConnell Uttered that we don't need to address voter suppression, and his reasoning was that massive, reeking abuse of statistics, complete with a golden studding of sweet corn.

When you pose it as "Minorities and White Americans" it looks a lot different.

...African Americans are not alone in having their vote suppressed.

There's no voter suppression. If you are proposing voter suppression, you can adduce evidence for it first.

McConnell uttered a fact, facts are not lies, get over it.

 

[Jarhyn]

facts are not lies

It seems we're at
Is or Is not
"Uttering a statement to cover up another statement, when it is known to cover a statement"
"fucked up and evil behavior"?

 

[Metaphor]

facts are not lies

It seems we're at
Is or Is not
"Uttering a statement to cover up another statement, when it is known to cover a statement"
"fucked up and evil behavior"?

Incoherent statements, like the ones you have presented above, are not even lies. They're just incoherent.

Anyway, the minority vote is not "suppressed", there is no evidence that it is "suppressed", and I have no particular problem with people, including McConnell, uttering truthful statements about the evidence that reflects that fact.

That you have a problem with truthful statements being uttered is your own problem to understand and deal with.

 

[Jarhyn]

facts are not lies

It seems we're at
Is or Is not
"Uttering a statement to cover up another statement, when it is known to cover a statement"
"fucked up and evil behavior"?

Incoherent statements... They're just incoherent.

Ah, back to what certainly seems like gaslighting. Maybe someone else can chime in with the Captain obvious where someone has to ELI5 a simple question to the elderly.

Anyway, the minority vote is not "suppressed", there is no evidence that it is "suppressed"

Large Racial Turnout Gap Persisted in 2020 Election

70.9 percent of white voters cast ballots compared with only 58.4 percent of nonwhite voters — a disparity that will worsen with new restrictive voting laws.

www.brennancenter.org

When you pose it as "African Americans" and "all Americans" it's pretty close.

When you pose it as "Minorities and White Americans" it looks a lot different...

...African Americans are not alone in having their vote suppressed.