My faith in the laws of economics has been reaffirmed.

[coloradoatheist]

No, property doesn't just suit the parasites, it would suit everyone. When people started working the land they would not only have that area that they are working, they have the structures needed to live and work. People would have their own houses and they would take ownership of those.

No - it would be accepted that they lived in them. Only once the Capones wanted to live off everyone else would the 'property' bullshit ever come up.

No. Small groups would have the unwritten rules but as the society was prosperous and grew, unwritten rules would become written. The Capones would come internally too.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

You described it with your paragraph. We bully, threaten and wage war against other groups and even internally. I believe we do have a genetic disposition to all those traits.

Animals themselves create a class society when they are in groups, of which humans follow too.

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Property is far more important than these alleged traits. Some animals have a status 'society', others don't, but it is to avoid long-term fighting that they develop this. 'Property' is an insane fantasy, which exists only to serve a class of useless parasites, and has been so from its earliest development. Working a piece of land (limited by possible labour) is not having property.

Animals have property: Nest sites.

 

[Bronzeage]

You described it with your paragraph. We bully, threaten and wage war against other groups and even internally. I believe we do have a genetic disposition to all those traits.

Animals themselves create a class society when they are in groups, of which humans follow too.

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Property is far more important than these alleged traits. Some animals have a status 'society', others don't, but it is to avoid long-term fighting that they develop this. 'Property' is an insane fantasy, which exists only to serve a class of useless parasites, and has been so from its earliest development. Working a piece of land (limited by possible labour) is not having property.

Our concept of property and ownership comes from our need to live in groups in order to survive. Property only exists when there is a shortage of resources. If there are enough coconuts that everyone can have a coconut when they desire one, it makes no sense to waste time hoarding coconuts. The social convention of private property allows us to collect a supply of coconuts and then sleep peacefully, in the belief no one will steal them in the night.


To say it "exists only to serve a class of useless parasites, and has been so from its earliest development" simply does not reflect reality, now or when we were still hunter gatherers.