NAACP issues first ever travel advisory for Missouri

[Angry Floof]

NAACP issues first-ever travel advisory for a state: Missouri

I bet all the other red states are envious.

 

[Tom Sawyer]

If they're going to issue a travel advisory to Missouri, wouldn't it be simpler just to call up the seven people who were thinking of going to Missouri this year and ask if they're black instead of sending out the warning to the entire country?

 

[Derec]

NAACP has jumped the shark.

 

[Angry Floof]

If they're going to issue a travel advisory to Missouri, wouldn't it be simpler just to call up the seven people who were thinking of going to Missouri this year and ask if they're black instead of sending out the warning to the entire country?

 

[laughing dog]

NAACP has jumped the shark.

Because .....?

 

[repoman]

they are shakedown artists.

 

[Derec]

NAACP has jumped the shark.

Because .....?

It's ridiculous to say that it is dangerous to travel to Missouri just because of the cases they mention. For example that loony tunes who accidentally drove into Missouri while driving from Nashville to Memphis and eventually died from unknown causes while fighting with jail staff.

All they want is attention and donations. And the more outrageous the claims the more attention they can get.

 

[laughing dog]

Because .....?

It's ridiculous to say that it is dangerous to travel to Missouri just because of the cases they mention. For example that loony tunes who accidentally drove into Missouri while driving from Nashville to Memphis and eventually died from unknown causes while fighting with jail staff.

All they want is attention and donations. And the more outrageous the claims the more attention they can get.

Yeah, I mean dying in jail run by a sheriff who was sued for misconduct and

The NAACP's advisory also cites the most recent attorney general's report showing black drivers in Missouri were 75 percent more likely to be pulled over than whites. Those reports have been showing the disparity since the attorney general began releasing the data in 2000.

In May, the owner of a Blue Springs barbershop found his shop windows stained with racial slurs. The same two words appeared on three separate windows in black paint: "Die (N-word)."

aren't rational reasons at all to warn black people from considering visiting Missouri.

 

[Derec]

Yeah, I mean dying in jail run by a sheriff who was sued for misconduct and

He was not just sued for misconduct, but also criminally charged. I read that part of the story too. But the shady nature of the sheriff did not cause his death.
He became violent in jail and injured several guards (some required hospitalization, one for a severed thumb) before being subdued. Here is a pretty detailed article about the case.
Tory Sanders Made a Wrong Turn Into Missouri. He Never Made It Out
It's a pretty strange case. It seems apparent to me that he started losing his mind when he somehow took a "wrong turn" while driving from Nashville to Memphis and ended up in Missouri. When his gas ran out he didn't get some gas like a normal person but wandered off more or less aimlessly. And so on, culminating in a violent encounter that led to his death.

Mississippi County Coroner Terry Parker says an autopsy showed no signs of trauma on Sanders' body, and he will have to wait for a toxicology report and review the 28-year-old's medical history before determining the cause of death. "In the efforts to restrain him, he collapsed, which we think there must have been some kind of medical or medicine issue involved here," Parker says.

So there is a lot that we do not know about this case, and there hasn't been an update I could find, even though this article is from May.

The NAACP's advisory also cites the most recent attorney general's report showing black drivers in Missouri were 75 percent more likely to be pulled over than whites. Those reports have been showing the disparity since the attorney general began releasing the data in 2000.

Disparity alone does not prove racism. Cops need some probable cause to stop people. Are blacks more likely to have equipment issues (lights out, tinted windows) or give cops some other grounds to stop them?

In May, the owner of a Blue Springs barbershop found his shop windows stained with racial slurs.

There are racist assholes everywhere. That is not a reason to give a travel advisory.

 

[laughing dog]

He was not just sued for misconduct, but also criminally charged. I read that part of the story too. But the shady nature of the sheriff did not cause his death.
He became violent in jail and injured several guards (some required hospitalization, one for a severed thumb) before being subdued. Here is a pretty detailed article about the case.
Tory Sanders Made a Wrong Turn Into Missouri. He Never Made It Out
It's a pretty strange case. It seems apparent to me that he started losing his mind when he somehow took a "wrong turn" while driving from Nashville to Memphis and ended up in Missouri. When his gas ran out he didn't get some gas like a normal person but wandered off more or less aimlessly. And so on, culminating in a violent encounter that led to his death.

Mississippi County Coroner Terry Parker says an autopsy showed no signs of trauma on Sanders' body, and he will have to wait for a toxicology report and review the 28-year-old's medical history before determining the cause of death. "In the efforts to restrain him, he collapsed, which we think there must have been some kind of medical or medicine issue involved here," Parker says.

So there is a lot that we do not know about this case, and there hasn't been an update I could find, even though this article is from May.

The NAACP's advisory also cites the most recent attorney general's report showing black drivers in Missouri were 75 percent more likely to be pulled over than whites. Those reports have been showing the disparity since the attorney general began releasing the data in 2000.

Disparity alone does not prove racism. Cops need some probable cause to stop people. Are blacks more likely to have equipment issues (lights out, tinted windows) or give cops some other grounds to stop them?

In May, the owner of a Blue Springs barbershop found his shop windows stained with racial slurs.

There are racist assholes everywhere. That is not a reason to give a travel advisory.

Put it all together, and I can understand why they did put out the advisory.

 

[Tom Sawyer]

Well, I think it's clear that the travel advisory isn't an actual advisory in the sense they feel it's overly dangerous for tourists and they're concerned about their safety if they visit. It's a political tool being used to highlight serious racial issues within Missouri which they feel deserve more attention from people.

So, good work by them. It appears to be an effective marketing campaign.

 

[Keith&Co.]

Well, I think it's clear that the travel advisory isn't an actual advisory in the sense they feel it's overly dangerous for tourists and they're concerned about their safety if they visit. It's a political tool being used to highlight serious racial issues within Missouri which they feel deserve more attention from people.

So, good work by them. It appears to be an effective marketing campaign.

And at least THIS political tool doesn't involve blocking traffic. SO many people here seem to be quite upset if traffic is blocked...

 

[dismal]

Well, I think it's clear that the travel advisory isn't an actual advisory in the sense they feel it's overly dangerous for tourists and they're concerned about their safety if they visit.

Yeah, if they were serious about warning Black people about dangerous places for Black people they'd have warned them not to go to Chicago.

So, good work by them. It appears to be an effective marketing campaign.

Except for the part where they look silly.

 

[Tom Sawyer]

Yeah, if they were serious about warning Black people about dangerous places for Black people they'd have warned them not to go to Chicago.

So, good work by them. It appears to be an effective marketing campaign.

Except for the part where they look silly.

Well, it's the NAACP. I think it's beyond their capabilities to not look silly while they're doing something. At least they're doing something to focus attention on these issues, though.

Also, I think everybody already realizes what a bad idea it would be to go to Chicago. Making a travel advisory for there would be about as redundant as saying "Hey, you might want to avoid vacationing in Mosul this month".

 

[ZiprHead]

The reasoning behind the advisory, per Snopes.:

SB 43, advanced by Senator Gary Romine, hearkens back to the Jim Crow-era. The Bill legalizes individual discrimination and harassment within the State of Missouri, and “would prevent individuals from protecting themselves from discrimination, harassment and retaliation in Missouri,” the advisory reads. The NAACP is hopeful that the Bill will be vetoed, at which time the Missouri State Conference will update the advisory.

Tory [Sanders] who recently died in a jail cell but was never arrested after running out of gas when he traveled into the state accidently;

Racist attacks on University of Missouri students while on the states’ campuses – as the University of Missouri System spoke in favor of Romine’s Jim Crow Bill;

Missouri’s legislature Representative Rick Bratton argued that homosexuals are not human beings according to his faith;

Black high school students in St. Louis have been attacked with hot glue while denigrated racially;

Two internationally born men gunned down outside in Kansas City after their killer thought them to be Muslim;

According to the Missouri Attorney General African Americans in Missouri are subjected to excessive traffic – 75% more likely to be stopped and searched based on skin color than Caucasians, Public threats of shooting ‘Blacks’ that terrorized University of Missouri students and members of the public.

 

[whichphilosophy]

NAACP issues first-ever travel advisory for a state: Missouri

I bet all the other red states are envious.

This can join the other travel advisories from outside the USA. We still hear about drive-by shootings though I'm sure this happens only now and again.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blog...-their-citizens-about/?utm_term=.8f4e628978b9

Here’s what other countries, mostly France, say about American cities:

Boston: Avoid walking at night in Dorchester, Mattapan and Roxbury, and be wary of “petty crime” in Chinatown, the North End and Fenway.

New York: Be wary in Times Square and at the Statue of Liberty, and don’t go to Harlem, the Bronx or Central Park at night.


Washington: Northeast and Southeast should be avoided, and Union Station is dangerous at night. “Le quartier Anacostia n’est pas recommandable de jour comme de nuit.” Translation: Don’t go to Anacostia, day or night.

Baltimore: “Considered a dangerous city except downtown.”

Richmond: “Do not visit the city on foot.”

Pittsburgh: The French urge their citizens to avoid Mount Oliver, Hill District, Homewood-Brushton and Hazelwood.

Cleveland: Avoid Cleveland Heights, Lakewood and Euclid. That warning got Cleveland Heights Mayor Edward Kelly upset. “The French government is foolish and doesn’t know what they’re talking about,” he told the Cleveland Plain Dealer.

Detroit: “The center is not recommended after the close of business.”

Chicago: Stay away from the West Side and anywhere south of 59th Street.

Houston: Be vigilant if traveling through Downtown, south and east Houston at night.

St. Louis: “Eviter le quartier nord entre l’aéroport et le centre-ville, mais la navette reliant l’aéroport est sûre.” Translation: Avoid northern area between the airport and the city center, but the airport shuttle is safe (Hat tip to our friend Chris Good, of ABC News, for spotting that nugget).


Atlanta: The French are nervous about the southern part of the city, and downtown after dark.

New Orleans: Northwest of Dauphine Street, northeast of Ursulines Avenue, north of St. Charles Avenue and south of Magazine Street are areas of concern.

Miami: “Canadians have been the victims of crime such as break-ins, assaults and pickpocketing in the Miami area, sometimes during daylight hours,” Canada’s foreign ministry warns. France says attacks on tourists in Florida are rare now, but were frequent a few years ago.

Los Angeles: France warns tourists to take care in Hollywood, Santa Monica, Venice Beach and Long Beach, and to avoid Watts, Inglewood and Florence.

El Paso: The British Foreign Office warns tourists about violence along the border with Mexico, and the border crossing at Ciudad Juarez specifically.

Germany doesn’t warn its citizens about any specific cities, but it does caution against letting it all hang out: “Although the laws in individual states categorizing nudity as ‘indecent exposure’, are rarely asserted and punished, those laws should absolutely be followed. Nude bathing and changing clothes at the beach stirs up public agitation and can lead to unpleasantnesses.”

 

[dismal]

NAACP issues first-ever travel advisory for a state: Missouri

I bet all the other red states are envious.

This can join the other travel advisories from outside the USA. We still hear about drive-by shootings though I'm sure this happens only now and again.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blog...-their-citizens-about/?utm_term=.8f4e628978b9

Here’s what other countries, mostly France, say about American cities:

Boston: Avoid walking at night in Dorchester, Mattapan and Roxbury, and be wary of “petty crime” in Chinatown, the North End and Fenway.

New York: Be wary in Times Square and at the Statue of Liberty, and don’t go to Harlem, the Bronx or Central Park at night.


Washington: Northeast and Southeast should be avoided, and Union Station is dangerous at night. “Le quartier Anacostia n’est pas recommandable de jour comme de nuit.” Translation: Don’t go to Anacostia, day or night.

Baltimore: “Considered a dangerous city except downtown.”

Richmond: “Do not visit the city on foot.”

Pittsburgh: The French urge their citizens to avoid Mount Oliver, Hill District, Homewood-Brushton and Hazelwood.

Cleveland: Avoid Cleveland Heights, Lakewood and Euclid. That warning got Cleveland Heights Mayor Edward Kelly upset. “The French government is foolish and doesn’t know what they’re talking about,” he told the Cleveland Plain Dealer.

Detroit: “The center is not recommended after the close of business.”

Chicago: Stay away from the West Side and anywhere south of 59th Street.

Houston: Be vigilant if traveling through Downtown, south and east Houston at night.

St. Louis: “Eviter le quartier nord entre l’aéroport et le centre-ville, mais la navette reliant l’aéroport est sûre.” Translation: Avoid northern area between the airport and the city center, but the airport shuttle is safe (Hat tip to our friend Chris Good, of ABC News, for spotting that nugget).


Atlanta: The French are nervous about the southern part of the city, and downtown after dark.

New Orleans: Northwest of Dauphine Street, northeast of Ursulines Avenue, north of St. Charles Avenue and south of Magazine Street are areas of concern.

Miami: “Canadians have been the victims of crime such as break-ins, assaults and pickpocketing in the Miami area, sometimes during daylight hours,” Canada’s foreign ministry warns. France says attacks on tourists in Florida are rare now, but were frequent a few years ago.

Los Angeles: France warns tourists to take care in Hollywood, Santa Monica, Venice Beach and Long Beach, and to avoid Watts, Inglewood and Florence.

El Paso: The British Foreign Office warns tourists about violence along the border with Mexico, and the border crossing at Ciudad Juarez specifically.

Germany doesn’t warn its citizens about any specific cities, but it does caution against letting it all hang out: “Although the laws in individual states categorizing nudity as ‘indecent exposure’, are rarely asserted and punished, those laws should absolutely be followed. Nude bathing and changing clothes at the beach stirs up public agitation and can lead to unpleasantnesses.”

Those are not appropriate comparisons as they seem to actually be attempting to provide useful safety information.

 

[laughing dog]

Well, I think it's clear that the travel advisory isn't an actual advisory in the sense they feel it's overly dangerous for tourists and they're concerned about their safety if they visit. It's a political tool being used to highlight serious racial issues within Missouri which they feel deserve more attention from people.

So, good work by them. It appears to be an effective marketing campaign.

And at least THIS political tool doesn't involve blocking traffic. SO many people here seem to be quite upset if traffic is blocked...

In fact, if it is anything, it unblocks traffic.

 

[thebeave]

If the goal is the safety of black people traveling in Missouri, then we should be telling them not to drive on the highways. Far more blacks in Missouri die in car accidents than at the hands of racist white people. We need some perspective here.

 

[Tom Sawyer]

If the goal is the safety of black people traveling in Missouri, then we should be telling them not to drive on the highways. Far more blacks in Missouri die in car accidents than at the hands of racist white people. We need some perspective here.

Yes. You need perspective. It's not meant to be taken literally anymore then saying black lives matter is meant to carry the implication that non black lives somehow matter less. It's a tool meant to draw attention to a particular issue.