Neo-Nazi Blows His Top

[ZiprHead]

"He encouraged his followers to flee large cities and build communes in rural areas where they could separate themselves from the crime and the violence they faced in their old neighborhoods and the decadence that, in his view, pervaded secular society. Over the years, his followers have set up about a dozen other villages similar to Islamberg, including ones in Virginia, Georgia and Tennessee."

White Christians have been doing the same thing since pretty much forever. It's many people dreams to "retire to the country life".

 

[ZiprHead]

Would they allow any non-Amish people to live with them in their community? Or would they tell them to "get outta here!"

What about Islamberg, NY? They refuse to allow non-Muslims to live with them. Bigots?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamberg,_New_York

"Islamberg was settled by a group of mostly black Muslim families in the 1980s,[2] who sought to escape the troubles of New York City.[3] The group was inspired by Sufi Cleric Sheikh Syed Mubarik Ali Shah Gilani and sought a more "peaceful and holy Muslim life".[4][5] Islamberg has a population of about 200,[2] along with its own grocery store, bookstore, and school.[3] The community serves as the headquarters of Muslims of America, which seeks to promote an understanding of Islam.[6]"

There is nothing in your link that says non-muslims can't live there.

Although it does clearly state that right-wingers such as yourself have continuously attacked the community in various ways.

Also noted that you clearly dodged the Amish question.

I would never attack them. I believe in peace. But, it is hypocritical to be supportive of this "small ethnostate" and be against a white ethnostate. I am not a hypocrite because I do not believe they are doing anything wrong.

But for leftists, this has got to be a real gut check. Remember leftists claim Israel shouldn't exist because the Jews should live with the rest of us.

Citation?

Oh, who am I kidding.

 

[Keith&Co.]

Serious motherfucking question, where does it say i cannot move there?

Or is this more of your handwaving?

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/28/nyregion/islamberg-ny-attack-plot.html

"He encouraged his followers to flee large cities and build communes in rural areas where they could separate themselves from the crime and the violence they faced in their old neighborhoods and the decadence that, in his view, pervaded secular society. Over the years, his followers have set up about a dozen other villages similar to Islamberg, including ones in Virginia, Georgia and Tennessee."

“We’ve never had a problem,” said Nancy Furdock, who has lived in Hancock — “two mountains over” from Islamberg, she said — for nearly two decades and has become friendly with people who live in the enclave."

So no, they despise secular society and other people live near them but not in their community. Sounds like bigots to me. Imagine if whites did this, Keith. You'd be up in arms asking why they have to be separated.

Okay. New question, then:
Where does it say i cannot move there?

Not, where do YOU say they're segregated. You apparently have the reading skills of a woodchipper. What tells me that Islamberg is muslim-only?

I did see the part where the community faces threats from racists telling lies about them. Interesting... but where do your facts come from?

 

[Keith&Co.]

Would they allow any non-Amish people to live with them in their community? Or would they tell them to "get outta here!"

What about Islamberg, NY? They refuse to allow non-Muslims to live with them. Bigots?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamberg,_New_York

"Islamberg was settled by a group of mostly black Muslim families in the 1980s,[2] who sought to escape the troubles of New York City.[3] The group was inspired by Sufi Cleric Sheikh Syed Mubarik Ali Shah Gilani and sought a more "peaceful and holy Muslim life".[4][5] Islamberg has a population of about 200,[2] along with its own grocery store, bookstore, and school.[3] The community serves as the headquarters of Muslims of America, which seeks to promote an understanding of Islam.[6]"

There is nothing in your link that says non-muslims can't live there.

Although it does clearly state that right-wingers such as yourself have continuously attacked the community in various ways.

Also noted that you clearly dodged the Amish question.

I would never attack them. I believe in peace.

but spreading lies about them is okay?

 

[Angry Floof]

BAILEY, THE LIBTARDTARIAN ������ on Twitter: "Milo just uploaded leaked audio of Richard Spencer reacting to the death of Heather Heyer and the negative press it did to his movement.
Just in case there was any question of the so-called "dapper white nationalist" being a raged fuelled hateful monster.
Explicit warning. https://t.co/KpVk2fLYSu" / Twitter

I found it very funny because he was such a sore loser.

Wow, in a time of peak manchild fear aggression, that is an unusually exquisite example of testeria. It's the unstable Nazi version of eating the whole wheel of cheese. Amazing.

 

[repoman]

Can the Hanification of Tibet and Xianjiang and the previous Russification of many parts of the USSR be compared to migrant/refugee quotas rhat Hungary, Poland and the Czech Republic are balking at?

The powers that be don't want a large fairly cohesive nation that can more easily splinter off again?

 

[repoman]

Overly serious Dicky Spencer is not a funny guy. This is a better way to handle that death if you are in Spencer's ballpark:

https://www.bitchute.com/video/fQ4ARZbLWEAy/

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Then I assume you're against the genocide of white farmers by blacks in South Africa?

A lot of us oppose it.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

God, you white guys are soooooooooo picked on. No wonder you cry 'bullyx so often.

Shouldn't that logic be applied to all the other ethnostates that exist in the world?

Why is South Korea afraid to let other ethnicities in?
Why is Africa afraid to have non-blacks?
Why is China afraid to have non-Chinese?

Logic? I see no logic to apply.
Just someone missing a world that never actually existed....

Sorry, but he's at least partially right.

In most of Africa there is major discrimination against non-blacks. Consider our admittedly old experiences (1982): Black market currency exchange was widespread and could be done in basically complete safety due to the racism. If the person you were dealing with wasn't black you knew they weren't working for the police. (And you dealt only in their place of business--ripping off someone would cost them in the long run because word would get out.) My parents were also arrested as spies for being in a crowd while white. (Took a few hours for the supervisor to realize it was nonsense and release them.) Or at the start of the trip where we unpacked everything to hunt it for those intolerable words "Republic of South Africa"--in many countries anything with those words was illegal. Afrikaans writing (it's used only in South Africa) on the package didn't matter, only the name. (And what was the most desirable currency in black market trades? The South African Rand.)

I can't address South Korea one way or the other.

As for China--I don't see anything about "letting them in" but fellow Chinese are seen in a more favorable light. I have relatives I've never met because the link between us and them didn't want it known my wife married a non-Chinese. I also see relatives worried about going to areas that aren't Han Chinese. Also, those of Chinese heritage are treated better on visa applications. Our visas were issued at the same time from the same consulate--but I have 60 days per entry and she has 90.

 

[Keith&Co.]

Logic? I see no logic to apply.
Just someone missing a world that never actually existed....

Sorry, but he's at least partially right.
.

Even if any of the facts he stirs into his pot of outrage are correct, i still don't see any logic to his choice of offenses.

Halfie is terribly afraid that the world is going to become a place where he's treated the way he would treat minorities if he were in charge.

 

[Patooka]

Then I assume you're against the genocide of white farmers by blacks in South Africa?

A lot of us oppose it.

And then there are some people who realize it is bullshit:

'More black farm workers are killed than white farm workers' - Johan Burger

"It is true that, if you look at just farmers, it is still mostly white farmers who get attacked. But that does not mean that black farmers and black workers are not killed. In fact, far more black workers are killed on farms during these attacks, by people coming from outside of those farms than white workers. In some years, there are no white workers killed." -Johan Burger, Independent Policing Expert

Kate Wilkinson, Africa Check senior researcher and Ernst Roets the deputy CEO of Afri-forum agree that the lack of accurate data and definitions on Farm attacks poses a major problem in understanding what is happening.

When it comes to whether farm attacks are racially motivated, Roets says it is an it isn't. This is because there are clear cut attacks where the motives where racially charged, but it would be inaccurate to blanket this motive for all farm attacks.

The Myth of White Genocide - An unfinished civil war inspires a global delusion

But farmers are only one of a broad host of people in South Africa who are at a high risk of being murdered—night-shift workers and Uber drivers, for example, are in greater statistical danger. And international media, which have amplified the idea that so-called farm murders are a major concern, has been oblivious to a key fact: last year, in a country where almost twenty thousand people were slain, most of them black, there were only sixty-two farm murders, according to government statistics.

Make no mistake, this is troubling. But to call it a genocide is hyperbolic bullshit. If this is what constitutes a genocide, then you must believe police shootings in the US equal a holocaust.

 

[Elixir]

How much of a dumb cunt do you have to be to think these two examples are in any way equivalent?

Rhetorical question, I presume. However dumb a cunt is required to posit that false equivalence, the nazi half-bot fills the bill.

 

[repoman]

From my favorite white nationalist.

 

[blastula]

Oh boy, here we go again.


It's perfectly fine for Africa to be majority black without people screaming, "black ethnostate!"
It's perfectly OK for South Korea and North Korea to be full of Koreans without people saying, "Korean ethnostate!"
It's OK for Poland to be majority white without people saying, "white ethnostate!"
It's OK to have black communities in the U.S. without people saying, "the ghetto is a black ethnostate!"
It's OK for China to be majority Chinese without people saying, "Chinese ethnostate!"
It's OK for Saudi Arabia to be majority muslim without people saying, "Muslim ethnostate!"

Yet, one guy says he wants a white ethnostate and he gets caled a racist. I wonder why all the other races and ethnicities get a pass with no complaints, yet whites get called vile disgusting names.
Strange how people only get triggered and start whining when it's whites saying it.

What a weird reply. Very bot-like, like you didn't even read the OP.

"Here we go again." Is there another thread around here about Spencer's diatribe?

And are you really whining that it's unfair to call Spencer a racist after he's screaming about "kikes" and "octaroons?" Really? Is that how you talk too?

 

[laughing dog]

Serious motherfucking question, where does it say i cannot move there?

Or is this more of your handwaving?

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/28/nyregion/islamberg-ny-attack-plot.html

"He encouraged his followers to flee large cities and build communes in rural areas where they could separate themselves from the crime and the violence they faced in their old neighborhoods and the decadence that, in his view, pervaded secular society. Over the years, his followers have set up about a dozen other villages similar to Islamberg, including ones in Virginia, Georgia and Tennessee."

“We’ve never had a problem,” said Nancy Furdock, who has lived in Hancock — “two mountains over” from Islamberg, she said — for nearly two decades and has become friendly with people who live in the enclave."

So no, they despise secular society and other people live near them but not in their community. Sounds like bigots to me. Imagine if whites did this, Keith. You'd be up in arms asking why they have to be separated.

People tend to live around those who are like them, including white people. Hell, there are states in the US that are over 85% white.

The issue is not with whom people choose to live but whether they actively discourage or prevent others from living amongst them.

The fact that Japan and China are xenophobic does not excuse bigotry by others. The fact that African nations where white people for decades exploited and discriminated against the indigenous people are now practicing bigotry against white people does not excuse bigotry elsewhere.

It ought to be obvious to anyone with a functioning brain with an IQ above 4, that actively advocating for the removal of people who are different is bigotry.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

BAILEY, THE LIBTARDTARIAN on Twitter: "Milo just uploaded leaked audio of Richard Spencer reacting to the death of Heather Heyer and the negative press it did to his movement.
Just in case there was any question of the so-called "dapper white nationalist" being a raged fuelled hateful monster.
Explicit warning. https://t.co/KpVk2fLYSu" / Twitter

I found it very funny because he was such a sore loser.

I am skeptical that this is real. First, the source is Milo. Second, there's just too much of what Milo's target audience (i.e. the Left) wants to hear. So my suspicion is that Milo is trolling us.

On the other hand, if for many days, Spencer continues to fail to disavow the recording, I will put more confidence in it being him.

 

[Mumbles]

Ah, the "dapper white nationalist" who just wanted "peaceful ethnic cleansing"...

I don't know why anyone bothered giving the piece of trash such glowing interviews, when it was always clear that he was going to blow up sooner or later. The only question is "What's his fellow scumbag Milo doing by releasing this?"

The answer is likely "trying to get an 'im not a Nazi because I did this symbolic thing' card into his deck."

It's sort of like "I have black friends", a lined up non-sequitur to hand-wave away the inappropriateness of current behavior.

The latter has already failed him, though - nobody cares about his black lover/husband/whatever. And really, his main problem is that he's a child rape apologist, not that he's a white nationalist, a group that rather obviously includes his target. There's no real chance of anyone sensible on the left accepting him, and there never was even before that audio of him giving cover for child rapists (a clip that was on the damn Joe Rogan podcat!) was mysteriously sent to various conservative groups.

My best guess is that he's simply trolling Spencer. Milo Yeahimasnitch was, among other things, loudly hateful towards gamers right up to the point where he joined Gamergate.

Not that I spent that much time worrying. Milo's just a piece of shit , and Spencer's supervillain rant is exactly what you'd expect him to screech behind closed doors anyway, apart from his use of the word "octaroons" - shout out for keeping it old school.

Oh boy, here we go again.


It's perfectly fine for Africa to be majority black without people screaming, "black ethnostate!"

I dunno, you seem rather perturbed by this. Also, "black" is just a skin color, and yet Africans are perfectly good feuding amongst themselves. Just bringing up that second part because it shows the futility of creating an "ethnostate" based solely on skin color - people *will* find other things to kill one another over - such as whether or not one belongs to a religion like Judaism, or whether or not one has a nonwhite great-grandparent.

Again, shout out to Spencer for making it very clear that his hatreds are about so much more than just skin color.

It's perfectly OK for South Korea and North Korea to be full of Koreans without people saying, "Korean ethnostate!"

Well, since "Korean" is a nationality, and not an ethnicity, this is more like complaining about the "American Ethnostate" or the "Mexican ethnostate"

It's OK for Poland to be majority white without people saying, "white ethnostate!"

Whoa, we're suddenly switching back to skin color, I guess...

It's OK to have black communities in the U.S. without people saying, "the ghetto is a black ethnostate!"

Because black Americans all necessarily live in filthy run-down ghettos.

It's OK for China to be majority Chinese without people saying, "Chinese ethnostate!"

Actually, I've heard quite a few objections to Chinese treatment of the Uyghurs has been widespread, and there seems to be some controversy over their policies towards Hong Kong as well. I'm told there have been some protests there.

It's OK for Saudi Arabia to be majority muslim without people saying, "Muslim ethnostate!"

Objections to Saudi Arabia's government, particularly their treatment of women, jews, LGBTs, christians, journalists, political dissidents, and this list could go on for a long time are *very* widespread.

Yet, one guy says he wants a white ethnostate and he gets called a racist. I wonder why all the other races and ethnicities get a pass with no complaints, yet whites get called vile disgusting names.

But why doesn't he simply move to Poland - which you have identified as a "white ethnostate" for some reason? As far as I can tell, you think he should advocate for the continental US as a native American "ethnostate", putting aside momentarily the wide variety of cultures that were on the continent? What's up with him shouting that he would "destroy this town", presumably the city of Charolettesville, which according to Wikipedia is 69 (heh) % white?

Strange how people only get triggered and start whining when it's whites saying it.

Yeah! Anti-racist is co...

Oh, wait, I suddenly had a flashback to when I was a bit more active here. Let's skip that.

It seems to me that you have no clear definition of what an "ethnostate" is, since they may or may not be comprised of a single ethnicity, and may or may not be a single state.

Or, to put it even shorter...what the hell are you even talking about?

 

[Half-Life]

The latter has already failed him, though - nobody cares about his black lover/husband/whatever. And really, his main problem is that he's a child rape apologist, not that he's a white nationalist, a group that rather obviously includes his target. There's no real chance of anyone sensible on the left accepting him, and there never was even before that audio of him giving cover for child rapists (a clip that was on the damn Joe Rogan podcat!) was mysteriously sent to various conservative groups.

My best guess is that he's simply trolling Spencer. Milo Yeahimasnitch was, among other things, loudly hateful towards gamers right up to the point where he joined Gamergate.

Not that I spent that much time worrying. Milo's just a piece of shit , and Spencer's supervillain rant is exactly what you'd expect him to screech behind closed doors anyway, apart from his use of the word "octaroons" - shout out for keeping it old school.

Oh boy, here we go again.


It's perfectly fine for Africa to be majority black without people screaming, "black ethnostate!"

I dunno, you seem rather perturbed by this. Also, "black" is just a skin color, and yet Africans are perfectly good feuding amongst themselves. Just bringing up that second part because it shows the futility of creating an "ethnostate" based solely on skin color - people *will* find other things to kill one another over - such as whether or not one belongs to a religion like Judaism, or whether or not one has a nonwhite great-grandparent.

Again, shout out to Spencer for making it very clear that his hatreds are about so much more than just skin color.

It's perfectly OK for South Korea and North Korea to be full of Koreans without people saying, "Korean ethnostate!"

Well, since "Korean" is a nationality, and not an ethnicity, this is more like complaining about the "American Ethnostate" or the "Mexican ethnostate"

It's OK for Poland to be majority white without people saying, "white ethnostate!"

Whoa, we're suddenly switching back to skin color, I guess...

It's OK to have black communities in the U.S. without people saying, "the ghetto is a black ethnostate!"

Because black Americans all necessarily live in filthy run-down ghettos.

It's OK for China to be majority Chinese without people saying, "Chinese ethnostate!"

Actually, I've heard quite a few objections to Chinese treatment of the Uyghurs has been widespread, and there seems to be some controversy over their policies towards Hong Kong as well. I'm told there have been some protests there.

It's OK for Saudi Arabia to be majority muslim without people saying, "Muslim ethnostate!"

Objections to Saudi Arabia's government, particularly their treatment of women, jews, LGBTs, christians, journalists, political dissidents, and this list could go on for a long time are *very* widespread.

Yet, one guy says he wants a white ethnostate and he gets called a racist. I wonder why all the other races and ethnicities get a pass with no complaints, yet whites get called vile disgusting names.

But why doesn't he simply move to Poland - which you have identified as a "white ethnostate" for some reason? As far as I can tell, you think he should advocate for the continental US as a native American "ethnostate", putting aside momentarily the wide variety of cultures that were on the continent? What's up with him shouting that he would "destroy this town", presumably the city of Charolettesville, which according to Wikipedia is 69 (heh) % white?

Strange how people only get triggered and start whining when it's whites saying it.

Yeah! Anti-racist is co...

Oh, wait, I suddenly had a flashback to when I was a bit more active here. Let's skip that.

It seems to me that you have no clear definition of what an "ethnostate" is, since they may or may not be comprised of a single ethnicity, and may or may not be a single state.

Or, to put it even shorter...what the hell are you even talking about?

But I've noticed a contradiction on the left.

They claim to "not care about race." Yet, if someone asks them, "Do you care if all black people die out?", they answer "yes."

But if you ask them, "Do you care if all white people die out?" They say, "no, it's just a skin color."

So do they care about race or not?

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

The latter has already failed him, though - nobody cares about his black lover/husband/whatever. And really, his main problem is that he's a child rape apologist, not that he's a white nationalist, a group that rather obviously includes his target. There's no real chance of anyone sensible on the left accepting him, and there never was even before that audio of him giving cover for child rapists (a clip that was on the damn Joe Rogan podcat!) was mysteriously sent to various conservative groups.

My best guess is that he's simply trolling Spencer. Milo Yeahimasnitch was, among other things, loudly hateful towards gamers right up to the point where he joined Gamergate.

Not that I spent that much time worrying. Milo's just a piece of shit , and Spencer's supervillain rant is exactly what you'd expect him to screech behind closed doors anyway, apart from his use of the word "octaroons" - shout out for keeping it old school.



I dunno, you seem rather perturbed by this. Also, "black" is just a skin color, and yet Africans are perfectly good feuding amongst themselves. Just bringing up that second part because it shows the futility of creating an "ethnostate" based solely on skin color - people *will* find other things to kill one another over - such as whether or not one belongs to a religion like Judaism, or whether or not one has a nonwhite great-grandparent.

Again, shout out to Spencer for making it very clear that his hatreds are about so much more than just skin color.



Well, since "Korean" is a nationality, and not an ethnicity, this is more like complaining about the "American Ethnostate" or the "Mexican ethnostate"

It's OK for Poland to be majority white without people saying, "white ethnostate!"

Whoa, we're suddenly switching back to skin color, I guess...

It's OK to have black communities in the U.S. without people saying, "the ghetto is a black ethnostate!"

Because black Americans all necessarily live in filthy run-down ghettos.

It's OK for China to be majority Chinese without people saying, "Chinese ethnostate!"

Actually, I've heard quite a few objections to Chinese treatment of the Uyghurs has been widespread, and there seems to be some controversy over their policies towards Hong Kong as well. I'm told there have been some protests there.

It's OK for Saudi Arabia to be majority muslim without people saying, "Muslim ethnostate!"

Objections to Saudi Arabia's government, particularly their treatment of women, jews, LGBTs, christians, journalists, political dissidents, and this list could go on for a long time are *very* widespread.

Yet, one guy says he wants a white ethnostate and he gets called a racist. I wonder why all the other races and ethnicities get a pass with no complaints, yet whites get called vile disgusting names.

But why doesn't he simply move to Poland - which you have identified as a "white ethnostate" for some reason? As far as I can tell, you think he should advocate for the continental US as a native American "ethnostate", putting aside momentarily the wide variety of cultures that were on the continent? What's up with him shouting that he would "destroy this town", presumably the city of Charolettesville, which according to Wikipedia is 69 (heh) % white?

Strange how people only get triggered and start whining when it's whites saying it.

Yeah! Anti-racist is co...

Oh, wait, I suddenly had a flashback to when I was a bit more active here. Let's skip that.

It seems to me that you have no clear definition of what an "ethnostate" is, since they may or may not be comprised of a single ethnicity, and may or may not be a single state.

Or, to put it even shorter...what the hell are you even talking about?

But I've noticed a contradiction on the left.

They claim to "not care about race." Yet, if someone asks them, "Do you care if all black people die out?", they answer "yes."

But if you ask them, "Do you care if all white people die out?" They say, "no, it's just a skin color."

So do they care about race or not?

Race is a social construct.

 

[Half-Life]

Race is a social construct.

Pure silliness. If race isn't real, then I can identify as black. Blacks can identify as white. Do you believe this is true?

If they didn't care about race, they wouldn't be telling black conservatives to "stick with your own kind and vote Democrat."

If they don't care about race, why do they get mad at the idea of blacks dying out?