New Matrix movie in the works?

[Underseer]

http://consequenceofsound.net/2017/...s-new-matrix-movie-is-not-a-reboot-or-remake/

Rumors are abounding. According to this article, the project will keep the franchise going, but will not be a reboot or a remake. I really hope this is the case.

The two Matrix sequels were awful, but the original is still a gem. It's lightning in a bottle not likely to be reproduced.

On the other hand, the world created by the Wachowski siblings is deep and rich, and creative little can easily create endless stories that never interfere with the original movies in any way. That's part of the genius of the back-story. As long as they are right about this not being a reboot, then I look forward to whatever they cook up.

 

[DolphinDynasty]

http://consequenceofsound.net/2017/...s-new-matrix-movie-is-not-a-reboot-or-remake/

Rumors are abounding. According to this article, the project will keep the franchise going, but will not be a reboot or a remake. I really hope this is the case.

The two Matrix sequels were awful, but the original is still a gem. It's lightning in a bottle not likely to be reproduced.

On the other hand, the world created by the Wachowski siblings is deep and rich, and creative little can easily create endless stories that never interfere with the original movies in any way. That's part of the genius of the back-story. As long as they are right about this not being a reboot, then I look forward to whatever they cook up.

As long as it isn't a rehash or remake, cool. I'd love it if we had a Morpheus origin story as his character always seemed as one dimensional as most teacher/seer type archetypes used in film and books. But then, I'd also like it if we had a bit more humor here n there, and not sure if they'll even consider it going by how epically dystopian and wasted they made pretty much everyone's story arc. We shall see.

 

[repoman]

They should do smaller present day earth movies again like "Bound", which was a little odd but very entertaining and well filmed.

 

[blastula]

I'm going to start a kickstarter fund to kill this movie.

 

[Underseer]

They should do smaller present day earth movies again like "Bound", which was a little odd but very entertaining and well filmed.

Animatrix made me feel like storytellers had barely scratched the surface of this interesting story-space, but showed tantalizing possibilities.

 

[Shadowy Man]

They should do smaller present day earth movies again like "Bound", which was a little odd but very entertaining and well filmed.

Have you seen Sense-8? It's not Bound, but it something they did recently that you might like.

 

[Jayjay]

Matrix was good because of the concept of everyone living in a computer simulation. With a prequel, we know what it is. So what's the point? We already know how it ends. Unless they can somehow introduce a twist of Shyamalan proportions I don't think it can even be as good as the two sequels, let alone the original.

To put it in biblical terms, everybody wants to see Jesus but nobody gives a fuck about John the Baptist.

 

[Underseer]

Matrix was good because of the concept of everyone living in a computer simulation. With a prequel, we know what it is. So what's the point? We already know how it ends. Unless they can somehow introduce a twist of Shyamalan proportions I don't think it can even be as good as the two sequels, let alone the original.

To put it in biblical terms, everybody wants to see Jesus but nobody gives a fuck about John the Baptist.

The world of the Matrix is vast with many nooks and crannies. I'm sure they can find lots of stories to tell that don't involve the main characters nor the main events at all. A good example would be Animatrix, which I think showed off the potential of the storyspace far more than the main movies.

 

[Tom Sawyer]

I'm glad this is happening. The Matrix was a great movie and it's about time they got around to making a sequel for it.

 

[hurtinbuckaroo]

I'm glad this is happening. The Matrix was a great movie and it's about time they got around to making a sequel for it.

You'll change your tune when you find out they're going to have a cyborg come back in time to kill Neo's mom.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Matrix was good because of the concept of everyone living in a computer simulation. With a prequel, we know what it is. So what's the point? We already know how it ends. Unless they can somehow introduce a twist of Shyamalan proportions I don't think it can even be as good as the two sequels, let alone the original.

To put it in biblical terms, everybody wants to see Jesus but nobody gives a fuck about John the Baptist.

The world of the Matrix is vast with many nooks and crannies. I'm sure they can find lots of stories to tell that don't involve the main characters nor the main events at all. A good example would be Animatrix, which I think showed off the potential of the storyspace far more than the main movies.

Like X-Men, it can work or it can suck.

 

[bigfield]

The Matrix ruined any hope of a decent sequel when Neo flew off into the fucking sky.

 

[Tom Sawyer]

The Matrix ruined any hope of a decent sequel when Neo flew off into the fucking sky.

Why? What's wrong with people flying? The point of that was that he had all the cheat codes. He could have turned into Thomas the Tank Engine and driven over a few Agents on his way out in order to make the same point.

The fact that he could fly was one of the least bad things about the sequels and made for a couple of the few good effects from time to time. A decent movie can be made about a guy who plays in God mode. It's just that they didn't make that movie.

 

[Underseer]

The Matrix ruined any hope of a decent sequel when Neo flew off into the fucking sky.

That was in the Matrix, and the whole point was that he could break the rules of the system.

The thermodynamic problems with the premise of the Matrix itself and his use of superpowers in the real world were a problem, but flying inside the Matrix? Not a problem at all.

 

[bigfield]

The Matrix ruined any hope of a decent sequel when Neo flew off into the fucking sky.

Why? What's wrong with people flying? The point of that was that he had all the cheat codes. He could have turned into Thomas the Tank Engine and driven over a few Agents on his way out in order to make the same point.

The fact that he could fly was one of the least bad things about the sequels and made for a couple of the few good effects from time to time. A decent movie can be made about a guy who plays in God mode. It's just that they didn't make that movie.

In theory you could write a decent movie about a God-mode Neo, but it hinges on devising a conflict that pits Neo against a credible foe within the Matrix universe. Either you have the machines reprogram the Matrix to negate Neo's powers, or you take the fight out of the Matrix. I don't think they could do either of those things well: You'd probably end up with cyber-werewolves or inexplicably shit mecha.

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The Matrix ruined any hope of a decent sequel when Neo flew off into the fucking sky.

That was in the Matrix, and the whole point was that he could break the rules of the system.

I understand that--I am referring to the closing scene of the original movie after he hangs up the phone. It was perfectly fine within the rules of the universe but made it damned hard to set up a sequel.

 

[thebeave]

http://consequenceofsound.net/2017/...s-new-matrix-movie-is-not-a-reboot-or-remake/

Rumors are abounding. According to this article, the project will keep the franchise going, but will not be a reboot or a remake. I really hope this is the case.

The two Matrix sequels were awful, but the original is still a gem. It's lightning in a bottle not likely to be reproduced.

On the other hand, the world created by the Wachowski siblings is deep and rich, and creative little can easily create endless stories that never interfere with the original movies in any way. That's part of the genius of the back-story. As long as they are right about this not being a reboot, then I look forward to whatever they cook up.

 

[Ford]

I understand that--I am referring to the closing scene of the original movie after he hangs up the phone. It was perfectly fine within the rules of the universe but made it damned hard to set up a sequel.

I think the thing that killed the sequels wasn't God-mode Neo, but the fact that they had no answer for him. As you said, he needed a credible adversary, but instead they just went with "Agent Smith was cool...maybe we could have a whole bunch of them? Yeah, that's it! A hundred Agents Smith. No...wait...a thousand! Fighting Neo in the rain!"

They took all the things that made the original groundbreaking, and overdid them, ignoring parts of their own canon in the process. Neo asks Morpheus "so I can dodge bullets?" and Morpheus responds "when you're ready, you won't have to."

I kind of thought that his taking flight at the end of the first one was the next step in his transcendence. He no longer needed to fight. Agents could fill him full of virtual lead and he'd just walk it off, and he was going to use his new powers to wake up the rest of sleeping humanity to what he'd learned. You don't have to run from the Agents. You don't have to die in the real world when you're killed in the Matrix. His phone call was literally a wake up call, and something the machines would have to deal with. Not just "The One," but many more humans who could jack in to the Matrix and break the rules as he did.

That phone call and his flight afterwards set up a sequel where Neo would set about freeing more people from the Matrix and training them to do what he could, but instead we just got more slow motion kung fu and a bunch of Agents Smith.

 

[Underseer]

I understand that--I am referring to the closing scene of the original movie after he hangs up the phone. It was perfectly fine within the rules of the universe but made it damned hard to set up a sequel.

I think the thing that killed the sequels wasn't God-mode Neo, but the fact that they had no answer for him. As you said, he needed a credible adversary, but instead they just went with "Agent Smith was cool...maybe we could have a whole bunch of them? Yeah, that's it! A hundred Agents Smith. No...wait...a thousand! Fighting Neo in the rain!"

They took all the things that made the original groundbreaking, and overdid them, ignoring parts of their own canon in the process. Neo asks Morpheus "so I can dodge bullets?" and Morpheus responds "when you're ready, you won't have to."

I kind of thought that his taking flight at the end of the first one was the next step in his transcendence. He no longer needed to fight. Agents could fill him full of virtual lead and he'd just walk it off, and he was going to use his new powers to wake up the rest of sleeping humanity to what he'd learned. You don't have to run from the Agents. You don't have to die in the real world when you're killed in the Matrix. His phone call was literally a wake up call, and something the machines would have to deal with. Not just "The One," but many more humans who could jack in to the Matrix and break the rules as he did.

That phone call and his flight afterwards set up a sequel where Neo would set about freeing more people from the Matrix and training them to do what he could, but instead we just got more slow motion kung fu and a bunch of Agents Smith.

Ok, that objection makes more sense.