Islam has been more effective in the past, but now it looks like the Christians will take the lead. Not an honor.Not just MAGA. Independents and even many Dems are freaking out about this. But I guess they are all "MAGA" to you ...
A specter is haunting New York ...
Is your contention that Cuomo would lead NYC toward "something that is Gilead"?
Besides, all these references to Handmaid's Take remind me of this meme:
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I don't know about slaughter, but you could seriously disable it by poking out its eyes.I used to go to a Fish and Chip shop in Leicester that was called "Halal Fish and Chips". I always wondered what the correct procedure was for the ritual slaughter of a potato, but never dared ask.
I actually think the word does have a reasonable meaning: the crowd on the left that always sides with Muslims and against Jews.
Yeah--showing kosher is needless suffering doesn't mean halal isn't. I don't approve of either.
And neither kosher nor halal say anything about that.
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Nothing could be any more cruel than the way that animals are raised and slaughtered in industrial farms. I don't know the specifics of how Kosher or Halal animals are raised or killed, but it certainly couldn't be worse than what industrial farms do to their animals.
Btw, I read a long article about Mandami's plans and there is no way he will be able to accomplish most of them. Some require approval from the governor. Others require approval from the city council, so regardless if you agree with all of his goals or not, he will have to compromise to get anything done. His goals are very humane, but idealistic. He would be a nice change from the current mayor.
Much ado about nothing, especially if you don't even live in or near NYC.
I recall the Atlanta Freethought Society once had a group of Muslims speak to us. They were very decent people who explained that most American Muslims were fairly liberal and would never harm anyone. I think it was shortly after 911 when Muslims were being demonized. A lot of religion is simply cultural. There are extremists in every group.
These days it's the extremist Christians we should all be concerned about. Some have committed. politicsl violence and others want to take away basic civil rights and destroy religious freedom. Still, most Christians are as harmless as most Muslims.
I don't think potatoes have a requirement, but what about the fish?I used to go to a Fish and Chip shop in Leicester that was called "Halal Fish and Chips". I always wondered what the correct procedure was for the ritual slaughter of a potato, but never dared ask.
I see a lot of garbage in there.
Freeze rent? You realize that's how you get slums? Landlords no longer have either the desire nor the money to keep up their property. And nobody builds more.
Building affordable housing? Once again, economic creationism. It's not like there's some magical way to make houses cheaper. Most of the cost goes into the minimum to make anything, there's little that can be done to reduce the cost--and to the extent it's possible it shows up to a large degree in the little things that matter. Like paper thin walls etc.
City owned grocery stores? Once again, economic creationism. Groceries are a pretty low margin business. I would be shocked if government could match the existing stores, let alone be cheaper. And food deserts exist for a reason--it's not that the companies are discriminating against an area, but that stores there have too much shrink, too much robbery, not enough sales.
And I don't lik the minimum wage at all, let alone raising it to $30. It always has been about cutting off the bottom of the ladder.
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Really? Nothing?
There's certainly some suffering, but as a general rule this lowers the quality of the meat, so farmers and slaughterhouse workers have a strong financial incentive to keep it to a minimum, even before regulators and inspectors get involved.
Most industrial meat production involves no cruelty (deliberate causing of suffering) at all; At worst there is neglectful suffering caused by people who don't care as much as they should.
Unfortunately I can think of plenty of things that are more cruel than the way that animals are raised and slaughtered in industrial farms.
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I don't know, but I doubt that they are ritually killed; Fish tend to die pretty quickly out of water, whether or not any rituals are followed.I don't think potatoes have a requirement, but what about the fish?I used to go to a Fish and Chip shop in Leicester that was called "Halal Fish and Chips". I always wondered what the correct procedure was for the ritual slaughter of a potato, but never dared ask.
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OK, I googled it. It seems that the only halal consideration for fish is that only those marine animals that have scales may be eaten. So no shellfish, eels, or marine mammals.
I have seen what I think is a very good transit system: Shanghai. Most runs are 2 Yuan, about 30 cents US. Most people pay by stored value cards that merely need to get within RFID range for a fraction of a second. If you pay by card subsequent buses (the system knows where the buses etc are and can figure this out automatically) are 1 Yuan. Buses are frequent enough that for most purposes you don't care about the bus schedule. Integrated with the subways, the same cards work under the city, you scan in, you scan out, it figures the fare based on distance. Again, in main area is 2 Yuan.
The system is not remotely handicap-friendly, but otherwise pretty hard to improve upon.
And, if most people see building infrastructure as spending money instead making an investment in the future we won't get very far.
southernhybrid
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Spare me the way you misinterpret things. I was referring to the way that the industrial farms raise and slaughter animals compared to other ways that animals can be raised and slaughtered on farms. I think that should be obvious based on this discussion. We were't discussing cruelty in general. We were comparing the way that the animals we eat are treated prior to eating them. Temple Grandin, as you may know, came up with a type of slaughtering animals that is considered more humane, but not all farms use her methods. I've read a lot about how industrial farms raise and kill the animals. It's extraordinarily cruel and unnecessary. it's more expensive to use more humane ways of caring for he animals we eat. Enough of this!
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Has Mamdani explained what he means by "Globalizing the intifada"?
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It may sound nice on the surface, but it is completely unrealistic.
Especially the government grocery stores idea.
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I'm not sure he ever said that. Derec said he said that but I have seen no proof of it.
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He did’t say it. In fact he said, “that’s not language I use.” What everyone, including the stuffy, moribund old Democratic establishment, is clutching their pearls about is that he refused to condemn the phrase, saying that it’s not the mayor’s place to police language. He called for universal human rights for all, including Palestinians and Israelis.
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I was about ten years old when my mother explained her "pendulum" theory of politics to me. She and I are both centrists, but when the pendulum has swung too far to the right, we must push leftward as hard as we can, hoping to get back to the center.
For this reason I am delighted at the victory of Zohran Mamdani even if he is leftier than I. I am disappointed that some Democratic leaders are not supporting him, and may even seek to defeat him in November.
Robert Reich -- one of my heroes -- certainly supports him. You would see that in this video except that I've set the time to skip to the midway point where we hear Reich's EXTREMELY prescient remarks from 31 years ago.
For this reason I am delighted at the victory of Zohran Mamdani even if he is leftier than I. I am disappointed that some Democratic leaders are not supporting him, and may even seek to defeat him in November.
Robert Reich -- one of my heroes -- certainly supports him. You would see that in this video except that I've set the time to skip to the midway point where we hear Reich's EXTREMELY prescient remarks from 31 years ago.
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Oh, it will pass center without any help. If it doesn’t get stuck in a far right position e.g. NK.
Assuming a leftward sentiment “swing” endures, it will begin gathering potential energy to assist the next swing to the right. Any leftward pressure exerted during the period of gravity assist, eventually contributes to opposite results. A True Centrist should be asking right now “what kind of rightward pressure can I exert right now to ensure that with the inevitable coming swing to the left, the pendulum slows or ideally, stops, within the Center zone that I prefer.”
Sounds like you’re actually a semi-closeted far left radical, Swami.
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The "pendulum theory" has a lot of merit. However, if you push too far to the left you overshoot again, leading to a swing to the right. The goal should be to dampen the amplitude, not increase it by pushing hard.
I think he would be a disaster if he wins. And he will damage the Democratic brand in the long run.
Dems have been moving left even before 2016, but TACO's surprise victory accelerated that trend, leading to Sergeant Sandy (I know how much you love this moniker!) and her Squad mates not only getting elected, but, in addition to their regimental commander Colonel Bernie Sanders, becoming in many ways the face of the Democratic Party.
I think this lurch to the left was the foundation for Biden Administration moving to the Left, especially on spending, and its subsequent lack of popularity. And that led directly to TACO 2.0. And now Dems are poised to repeat the same mistake.
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... but then ...
Those two statements are not consistent, given how far to the left Mr. Reich is.