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Derec said:
Jimmy Higgins said:
And of course the most important question, why the fuck isn't there just an official set of balls supplied by the referees in the first place?! Imagine baseball teams supplying the balls!
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Well this scheme wouldn't work in a sport like basketball (or real, association, football for that matter) where you change possession all the time. You need round based offense-defense segments for it to work.
So that makes your question even more pertinent. Why isn't NFL providing official "balls"?
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That wouldn't stop anyone from doing what was done to these balls, i.e. tampering with them during the game.

And if they provided "official" balls, what condition would they be in? They couldn't be brand new balls, which are slippery as hell. They'd have to be broken in using some "official" process, the end result of which would probably make about 90% of the players unhappy. So they allow the official game balls to be broken in and adjusted within clearly established specifications. I see no problem with that.

The one change that's almost guaranteed is that the NFL will be hiring "ball boys" to replace the people now employed by each of the teams, and no one from the teams will be allowed near the balls on the sidelines.
 
chrisengland said:
Us English people struggle to understand while American footballers where all that protection? Ruby players don't
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After the two sports' rules diverged, the reason/strategy behind tackling changed. What it boils down to is that, on average, American football involves harder tackles by larger people.

That and the positive feedback effect. More padding means harder hits means more padding means harder hits, etc...
 
chrisengland said:
Us English people struggle to understand while American footballers where all that protection? Ruby players don't
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Because each play starts from a full stop which allows higher intensity contact. Rugby just keeps flowing, so there is contact, but not as brutal as often. Don't know whether it'd be possible to play Rugby in NFL padding. The players would be dead by half way through the second half.
 
Jimmy Higgins said:
chrisengland said:
Us English people struggle to understand while American footballers where all that protection? Ruby players don't
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Because each play starts from a full stop which allows higher intensity contact. Rugby just keeps flowing, so there is contact, but not as brutal as often. Don't know whether it'd be possible to play Rugby in NFL padding. The players would be dead by half way through the second half.
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Rugby League starts each play from a full stop; and they don't wear any more padding the players of Rugby Union.

Anyway, a faster impact is higher intensity than a slower one, so starting from stationary should reduce the impact, not increase it.

I suspect that the issue is helmets. Once anyone wears a hard helmet, everyone has to be padded up to protect themselves against other player's headgear.
 
bilby said:
Jimmy Higgins said:
Because each play starts from a full stop which allows higher intensity contact. Rugby just keeps flowing, so there is contact, but not as brutal as often. Don't know whether it'd be possible to play Rugby in NFL padding. The players would be dead by half way through the second half.
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Rugby League starts each play from a full stop; and they don't wear any more padding the players of Rugby Union.

Anyway, a faster impact is higher intensity than a slower one, so starting from stationary should reduce the impact, not increase it.
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Not when you get to stop between every play.
 
Jimmy Higgins said:
bilby said:
Rugby League starts each play from a full stop; and they don't wear any more padding the players of Rugby Union.

Anyway, a faster impact is higher intensity than a slower one, so starting from stationary should reduce the impact, not increase it.
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Not when you get to stop between every play.
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I am not getting your point; are you saying that because gridiron players get lots of rest time, they are less tired and able to hit harder? Because nothing else I can think of makes sense based on your comment.
 
bilby said:
Jimmy Higgins said:
Not when you get to stop between every play.
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I am not getting your point; are you saying that because gridiron players get lots of rest time, they are less tired and able to hit harder? Because nothing else I can think of makes sense based on your comment.
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Yeah, the resting thing. Imagine if a Rugby player was given a chance to rest every 10 seconds!
 
Trying to seriously enjoy the actual football for the first time in a few years, but damn the spectacle of the super bowl is weird.
 
Patriots are 6 for 6 in awesome Super Bowls with Brady and Belichick.

Looked like the Pats were cursed with that reception. When the Hawks last drive started I felt that the Patriots would need an INT in order to win the game.

And you can quote me, "The decision to not have Lynch run the ball in for the TD at the end of the game is the worst coaching decision since Monty Burns had Homer Simpson pinch hit for Daryl Strawberry."
 
Jimmy Higgins said:
Patriots are 6 for 6 in awesome Super Bowls with Brady and Belichick.

Looked like the Pats were cursed with that reception. When the Hawks last drive started I felt that the Patriots would need an INT in order to win the game.

And you can quote me, "The decision to not have Lynch run the ball in for the TD at the end of the game is the worst coaching decision since Monty Burns had Homer Simpson pinch hit for Daryl Strawberry."
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They're 4 for 6 in close Super Bowls. 2x Giants, with amazing catches in the last drive.

On the Seahawks' last offensive play I agree, too cute by half, they should have played to their strengths. Either hand it to Lynch or run the read-option where either Lynch or Wilson runs the ball. At least Monty Burns' team won, Homer got hit by a pitch which forced in the game winning run.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homer_at_the_Bat
 
Terrell said:
Jimmy Higgins said:
Patriots are 6 for 6 in awesome Super Bowls with Brady and Belichick.

Looked like the Pats were cursed with that reception. When the Hawks last drive started I felt that the Patriots would need an INT in order to win the game.

And you can quote me, "The decision to not have Lynch run the ball in for the TD at the end of the game is the worst coaching decision since Monty Burns had Homer Simpson pinch hit for Daryl Strawberry."
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They're 4 for 6 in close Super Bowls. 2x Giants, with amazing catches in the last drive.
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I meant that all six games were incredible. This one just raised the bar again. It was pretty much a repeat of the Rams win over the Titans for the finish.

On the Seahawks' last offensive play I agree, too cute by half, they should have played to their strengths. Either hand it to Lynch or run the read-option where either Lynch or Wilson runs the ball. At least Monty Burns' team won, Homer got hit by a pitch which forced in the game winning run.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homer_at_the_Bat
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Well, Burns was playing the percentages.
AthenaAwakened said:
Did you hear?

In the last 20 seconds of the Super Bowl a hockey game broke out.
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Proved that the Seahawks were quite thuggish. They lost the game straight up and played the role of whiners.

Which was unfortunate seeing how great of a game they did play... in the 2nd and 3rd quarters.
 
What we learned at this year's Super Bowl:


  • Giving up two touchdowns in the fourth quarter is not the best idea, when you are up by less than two touchdowns.
  • Even with properly inflated footballs, the Patriots can still hack into your communications line and get all of your plays.
  • You learn that if your team uses a ref for a pick, it is awesome and 'just part of the game', but when the other team does it, it is fucking cheap!
  • If you act like a smug ass, you'll get Meme'd to death when you make a funny face after things don't go your way in the end.
  • There is apparently such thing as a Rookie of the Year in the CFL, and he usually works in a mall in the off season.
  • Unless you are in central California, your team has never been this good for this long.
  • While not giving the ball to your team's MVP in the waning seconds of a game to gain 3 or so yards for a Super Bowl winning touchdown isn't the best of ideas, throwing the ball to the other team instead, is an even worse idea!
  • God hates the Seahawks more than the Patriots... albeit, just by a little.
 
Jimmy Higgins said:
[*]While not giving the ball to your team's MVP in the waning seconds of a game to gain 3 or so yards for a Super Bowl winning touchdown isn't the best of ideas, throwing the ball to the other team instead, is an even worse idea!
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When your team's MVP has scored from the 1-yard line only once in six tries this season, you should at least consider doing something else. For example, rolling out your extremely mobile quarterback. Not throwing a timing pass to a 4th-string WR in the most crowded part of the field, on 2nd down, with 26 seconds and a timeout to play with.

It's already been labeled the worst play call in Super Bowl history.

As for the God-hate thing, no, the Pats top that list, but Satan distracted God on that play by telling him his fly was open.
 
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