No difference between Clinton and Trump administrations?? Bullshit.........

[Jimmy Higgins]

It also won't make the Dems more liberal. How did Bush winning work out for us progressives?

You mean from Bill Clinton to Candidate Obama? Candidate Obama was actually quite a bit more progressive. If only it hadn't been all lies...

All lies? Gay marriage is the law and marijuana use laws weren't interfered with by the feds. There is health insurance subsidies for people who couldn't afford it, and people that were refused coverage can no longer be refused.

Obama was far from the most liberal agenda possible, but it sure the heck was better than the W Admin and what the Trump Admin will saddle with America.

 

[Rhea]

It also won't make the Dems more liberal. How did Bush winning work out for us progressives?

You mean from Bill Clinton to Candidate Obama? Candidate Obama was actually quite a bit more progressive. If only it hadn't been all lies...

That made no logical sense and delivered no point.

 

[Jolly_Penguin]

You mean from Bill Clinton to Candidate Obama? Candidate Obama was actually quite a bit more progressive. If only it hadn't been all lies...

That made no logical sense and delivered no point.

It directly answered your question. Candidate Obama was what Democrats put foward after Bush. And as a candidate he was the candidate of hope and change towards progressive liberalism. More liberal than Bill Clinton. As a candidate he pushed for single payer universal health care amongst many other truly liberal positions. He was the more liberal candidate vs candidate Hillary. It just sucks that he sold so much of that out once he got in. The change was minimal and the hope wavered.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

That made no logical sense and delivered no point.

It directly answered your question. Candidate Obama was what Democrats put foward after Bush. And as a candidate he was the candidate of hope and change towards progressive liberalism.

I never bought that, and many didn't either. The Democrats aren't a liberal party.

Yet:
- gay marriage
- legal marijuana
- net neutrality
- health care access

More liberal than Bill Clinton.

And Obama was. Clinton signed the defense of marriage act.

It just sucks that he sold so much of that out once he got in. The change was minimal and the hope wavered.

What sucks is that we aren't even outside his Presidency yet and you seem to completely forget the unprecedented obstruction against him by Republicans in Congress, both with and without majorities.

 

[Jolly_Penguin]

Nope didn't forget that. Expected it and got it. It was expected. Obama going from fierce liberal progressive candidate to president pussywillow was a big disappointment.

 

[Elixir]

Nope didn't forget that. Expected it and got it. It was expected. Obama going from fierce liberal progressive candidate to president pussywillow was a big disappointment.

Yes, I felt that way too. Too bad about that Republican obstructionist congress vowing to not let him get anything done, no matter what the cost. They overtly promised to ALWAYS disagree - even with their own ideas, should they emerge from Obama's mouth.