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'Non-directive' meditation: there is something here

PyramidHead

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I have now been practicing a form of daily meditation for six weeks. The style of meditation can be broadly described as 'non-directive'; instead of concentrating on something and trying to quiet your thoughts, you let your thoughts come, with a free and open attitude, while returning to the meditation object (usually a mantra) when you notice it has been forgotten in the midst of other thoughts. Depending on the method, you do this for 15-30 minutes in the morning and again in the afternoon. The most well-known example of non-directive meditation is the Transcendental Meditation (or TM) technique originated in the 60's and 70's by the Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, which became a large organization with some pretty high fees for instruction and some outlandish beliefs. I didn't learn my technique from them, I used one of the cheaper alternatives introduced by ex-TM instructors who were disillusioned by the organization's mystical underpinnings and the price. It's very easy to learn, but has some subtleties that take a little time to master--and this is generally a rewarding process with tangible benefits. So how does it work?

You sit somewhere comfortable, close your eyes, and relax a bit without really focusing on anything. Then you very easily and casually start mentally repeating a meaningless sound (different for each technique, but it could be any sound as long as it doesn't mean anything to you). You sort of promise yourself that whatever happens, however this mantra mutates in volume, speed, or pronunciation, no matter what you think about or how you think it, you will be okay with what is going on. After a minute or so, you're automatically repeating the sound in your head without needing to intentionally do it. It might eventually morph into something totally different from how it started. That's fine. Don't worry about watching your breathing, clearing your mind, or 'am I doing this right'. Sometimes your thoughts will wander and you'll catch yourself thinking about something random, and it will occur to you that the repetition of the sound has stopped. That's natural and actually a healthy part of the process. Just start repeating it again, not forcefully like you're trying to frantically run after a bus before it leaves you behind, but very easily like any other thought, like you're remembering something nice. Keep going like that for 20 minutes or so, then gently stop the mantra from repeating in your mind. Take a minute to breathe and stretch with your eyes still closed, and open them when you're ready. That's it.

Why am I posting about this? Well, I know this sounds cliched, but I was really skeptical about it at first. The only reason I was curious to begin with was because a personal hero of mine, Jerry Seinfeld, was on YouTube one day singing the praises of TM. I decided to give it a shot because my daily commute includes a 1-hour train ride that's pretty quiet most of the time. So I made it part of my routine just for fun, to see what it was all about.

Some things that have happened:
  • While meditating, I get this deep, almost sleep-like full-body relaxation come over me, yet simultaneously I'm awake and aware of what's happening around me. It's like a warm bath.
  • I used to have a lot of trouble concentrating on reading. I would read something, zone out, and then have to go back and re-read a page or two because I didn't retain anything. Now, for some reason, I'm like a speed reader and everything is retained the first time.
  • Right after coming out of the session, I feel invigorated and very creative. I'm a musician, and I work out a lot of song ideas on the train by taking little notes on my phone or whatever. Lately I've been quite prolific and I seem to finish projects faster than ever before.
  • My anxiety/stress level has gone way down. I have a history with anxiety and take medication to manage it, but even on the meds, I would sometimes be just about on the verge of getting overwhelmed. Since I started meditating regularly, it's just not there anymore.
  • I don't crash and burn when I get home from work like I used to. I still have tiring days and still look forward to kicking back, but I'm not useless after 5PM anymore.
  • I sleep all through the night. As long as I can remember, I used to wake up at least once or twice, go to the bathroom, check my phone, worry about something for two hours, and maybe eventually fall back asleep. It's nice to wake up once, and have it be pretty close to when I actually have to get up.

And so on and so forth. All good things. I like to know how stuff like this works, but most of the written material strays into woo-woo territory. It'll say you're unlocking your true self, experiencing "bliss consciousness", or tapping into some ultimate reality. I don't buy into any of that, and it still works. I actually think it's very simple. How often do you actually let your mind do whatever it wants to do without trying to control it? Not just your mind, anything really. We're so used to the idea that everything worthwhile requires some kind of effort on our part. So we're always steering our thoughts, often unconsciously, trying to figure something out or make sense of something.

Non-directive meditation has one rule: don't try. Simply be okay with whatever is going on in your head for about 20 minutes. The repeating sound isn't even that important, it's just an anchor to keep you from getting lost. Some techniques don't even use it. The analogy is you're at a party and you only really know one person, so you stick by him or her while other people come and go. The mantra just lets you return to that 'home base' if you start dwelling or obsessing on anything. It has no special power or function on its own or other than that. To put it another way, and to paraphrase Seinfeld, meditating is like putting your mind on a track and having it run laps until it naturally gets worn out. You don't want it to run across town, so you keep it to the track. That's the mantra part. But within that track, you let it go crazy until it just settles on its own.

It still boggles me that something so easy could nonetheless be (a) something I actually never really did in any other context before learning this, and (b) something that provides advantages I'm starting to get used to and wouldn't want to be without. The first part is worth emphasizing. Non-directive meditation feels so natural and easy while doing it, but paradoxically, it's also quite an unfamiliar experience for most people who try it. It goes to show how we unwittingly police our own thoughts almost constantly. You do it, and it's like oh, this is what it feels like to actually relax.

I can't really recommend this enough! There are plenty of resources on the web if you look for them, and some step-by-step guides can be found or purchased for around $20-50 USD depending on the source. If you can find ~15 minutes in the morning and afternoon every day, give it a shot with no expectations and see if you notice anything different after a couple of weeks.
 
I am not trying to be a smart ass or something, but I find the same results from listening to me hot bath being run, then soaking in it, then listening to the water being let out again. Is that similar?
 
I would say "Just about..."

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But it's hard to carry a bathtub or a sauna around, while the other can be done mostly any time, anywhere...:shrug:
 
It's not every person who can have a warm bath twice a day for the rest of their life, either. More than that, I think there is a mental involvement with meditation that may yield certain effects over time, a sharpening of attention, a lessening of irritability, subtle stuff like that. I'm sure just being able to relax and let your mind drift in a semi-controlled manner has a lot to do with it.
 
It's not every person who can have a warm bath twice a day for the rest of their life, either. More than that, I think there is a mental involvement with meditation that may yield certain effects over time, a sharpening of attention, a lessening of irritability, subtle stuff like that. I'm sure just being able to relax and let your mind drift in a semi-controlled manner has a lot to do with it.



Ahh, well I have trouble doing that. Oh look - a possum!
 
PH,

I got this during an hour's Reiki the other week. For some reason the Reiki shut down my monkey mind and a state like you describe happened, for the full hour!

Previously I have never been able to meditate by the book, but having someone else there seemed to let me off the hook. I felt better for days after and still have very little monkey mind getting in the way. :)

Best £30 I've ever spent.

A.

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Ahh, well I have trouble doing that. Oh look - a possum!

gmb,

Haha! It was a squirrel last time. :D: I like reading your posts.

A.
 
It's not every person who can have a warm bath twice a day for the rest of their life, either. More than that, I think there is a mental involvement with meditation that may yield certain effects over time, a sharpening of attention, a lessening of irritability, subtle stuff like that. I'm sure just being able to relax and let your mind drift in a semi-controlled manner has a lot to do with it.



Ahh, well I have trouble doing that. Oh look - a possum!

I think it would be great for you, because it's not concentration. Don't make a joke out of it unless you try it first. :shrug:
 
gmb,

Haha! It was a squirrel last time. :D: I like reading your posts.

A.

Alex,

Considering we have a possum or two in our back yard, they are on my mind. :)

Gaynor

Understood. :cool:

https://thumb1.shutterstock.com/dis...hoto-shy-female-possum-in-grass-529158298.jpg

A.
Alex,

Pete is cuter than that.

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Gaynor.

P.S. I saw Pete as he was out briefly today. This was a surprise as they are generally nocturnal.

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Ahh, well I have trouble doing that. Oh look - a possum!

I think it would be great for you, because it's not concentration. Don't make a joke out of it unless you try it first. :shrug:

T2, I do try relaxation techniques from time to time. Generally with candles and a bubble bath. We all have our ways.
 
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Ahh, well I have trouble doing that. Oh look - a possum!

I think it would be great for you, because it's not concentration. Don't make a joke out of it unless you try it first. :shrug:

T2, I do try relaxation techniques from time to time. Generally with candles and a bubble bath. We all have our ways.

:D I understand.

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Folks,

I too try the bath and candles. Thing is, modern baths here in the UK are not long enough to stretch your legs out. We used to have an old cast iron bath that was, but the new one isn't. I've tried putting my feet up on the tiles but it just isn't the same.

A therapist recommended Epsom salts in the bath and that was good. :)

But, for deep relaxation its a hard bed and counting the breathing: in 4, hold 4, out 4, hold 4. When the arms and legs feel like they don't belong to you, the job is done. Took a while to learn this technique.

A.

PS - Gaynor, Yes, that is a very cute possum. I've been youtubing possums and there are some weird ones out there!
 
Folks,

I too try the bath and candles. Thing is, modern baths here in the UK are not long enough to stretch your legs out. We used to have an old cast iron bath that was, but the new one isn't. I've tried putting my feet up on the tiles but it just isn't the same.

A therapist recommended Epsom salts in the bath and that was good. :)

But, for deep relaxation its a hard bed and counting the breathing: in 4, hold 4, out 4, hold 4. When the arms and legs feel like they don't belong to you, the job is done. Took a while to learn this technique.

A.

PS - Gaynor, Yes, that is a very cute possum. I've been youtubing possums and there are some weird ones out there!

Alex,

I will get Bilby to post pictures of our Pete!

Gaynor
 
Gaynor,

All PyramidHead is telling you is that he did an experiment and tried an effortless relaxation technique that actually worked for him
He is saying that YOU COULD BENEFIT GREATLY from practicing it, and you won't even try it, and dismiss his totally impartial experiment findings like it's some kind of stupid joke.

Nobody is selling you anything, G.! All he's saying is that it works for him, and that PLEASE, for your own good, "at least don't knock it until you try it"! :shrug:
 
Gaynor,

All PyramidHead is telling you is that he did an experiment and tried an effortless relaxation technique that actually worked for him
He is saying that YOU COULD BENEFIT GREATLY from practicing it, and you won't even try it, and dismiss his totally impartial experiment findings like it's some kind of stupid joke.

Nobody is selling you anything, G.! All he's saying is that it works for him, and that PLEASE, for your own good, "at least don't knock it until you try it"! :shrug:

Ok.
 
I don't take it as dismissive, don't worry! Nobody needs to try it if they don't want to. In fact, I've been looking at the different websites and organizations that promote this kind of technique and I can see how they can be off-putting. In particular, only a few techniques have been able to relinquish the metaphysical baggage of the Eastern traditions they are based on. The front page will say meditating helps you relax, gives you more energy, lowers your blood pressure, and relieves your stress. But dig a little deeper, and they start to talk about the "pure awareness at the ground state of all being" and other such stuff. It kind of leaves me cold sometimes.

The technique that I first learned, NSR, looks at first glance to be mostly empirical, but the instruction is in the form of a PDF manual and short mp3 file, and based on that, there are some spurious claims about this weird "two-stroke" mechanism of transcending that sounds like folk psychology nonsense to me, and a lot about yoga traditions (more "pure awareness" talk). Mind you, the instructions also say that nobody has to believe any of the background information in order to make it work, but the implication is that you have to accept it at some point or else you'll never attain enlightenment. The president of the company, David Spector, runs a forum in which he basically answers everybody's questions and helps them meditate better. It's a great resource, but it depends on his availability, and he is sadly very ill with cancer. At times, he pushes the metaphysical aspect a little too much for my tastes.

The only completely selcularized form of non-directive meditation I have found so far is Acem. Unsurprisingly, it originated in and is based out of the Netherlands. They have courses in the US, but you need to travel to New York. I don't live far from there, so I might check it out sometime to see if there is anything interesting to be found. The main difference I can see is Acem has no component of "discovering your true inner self as the bliss of pure consciousness at one with the universe", so they are more dedicated to the actual mechanics of the technique and how it can be optimized for tangible results. They don't use any ancient Sanskrit mantras, they actually did experiments on nonsense syllables in different arrangements to see which ones are more conducive to meditation (must have been a fun experiment). If I get around to attending one of their courses in a month or so, I'll report back on it.
 
Folks,

I too try the bath and candles. Thing is, modern baths here in the UK are not long enough to stretch your legs out. We used to have an old cast iron bath that was, but the new one isn't. I've tried putting my feet up on the tiles but it just isn't the same.

A therapist recommended Epsom salts in the bath and that was good. :)

But, for deep relaxation its a hard bed and counting the breathing: in 4, hold 4, out 4, hold 4. When the arms and legs feel like they don't belong to you, the job is done. Took a while to learn this technique.

A.

PS - Gaynor, Yes, that is a very cute possum. I've been youtubing possums and there are some weird ones out there!

Alex,

I will get Bilby to post pictures of our Pete!

Gaynor
Here he is, in his favorite tree:
Possum_1.jpg

And trying to sleep in the rafters over the spa:
Possum_2.jpg
 
Every time I try to read a book on meditation, I fall asleep. Maybe I'm already relaxed enough.

That possum is adorable. The ones in the US are not very cute.
 
Thanks for the lengthy description.

I could probably use some daily meditation, if for no other reason than to re-orient myself. I get lost in my thoughts a lot and as you say.. sometimes my mind runs wild and forgets to centre itself. Making a bit of meditation a routine would probably help me put my feet back on the ground, daily.

Although these days my problems are mainly centered around boredom, and not so much anxiety/mind running around.
 
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