North Carolina police brutally beat man for jaywalking

[Loren Pechtel]

3 AM? Was he jaywalking across a limited access highway? Otherwise... what could possibly be the "problem"?

Obviously, the cop was there, thus he was not alone. Cop comes upon a jaywalker in their way, they're probably going to ticket.

And letting him go certainly isn't the answer...

Jebus, thank goodness you don't have children!

When you let resistance escape punishment you teach that the proper response to being caught is resistance, and you teach that breaking the rules doesn't matter. While it seems harsh in a case like this overall it's better to use the force needed to bring them to justice.

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You are assuming they targeted him for being black rather than for jaywalking

Oh come on Loren... just one favor for me, pretty please? Find a single case of a white man being beaten up by cops for jaywalking. Then I'll shut up.

I don't see a case of a black man beaten up for jaywalking, either.

I see a case of a black man beaten up for resisting arrest. Whites who resist arrest sometimes get beaten, also.

 

[RavenSky]

The police looked like they wanted to arrest the guy for jaywalking, but in NC, jaywalking is only an infraction at most and not a misdemeanor. What kind of asshole police officers arrest people for jaywalking?

Of course thanks to the 5 vs. 4 2001 USSC ruling, Atwater vs. Lago Vista, police apparently have the right to arrest and jail people for even the slightest infractions against the law only punishable by small fines and regardless of whether there is any indication of actual criminal activity. (infractions aren't considered criminal charges)

Tickets are actually an extremely simplified bail procedure. If you won't sign a ticket you get arrested.

And while jaywalking started this the actual cause here is resisting arrest.

The actual case here is cops escalated stopping a citizen over a minor infraction into beating and tazing him despite his being cooperative, aka police brutality.

^^^ That.

 

[RavenSky]

Since when do people get tickets for jaywalking? Unless they are also doing something much more, like harassing motorists or laying down on the highway or something like that? I have seen police officers jaywalk. I have jaywalked beside them as they did so.

It's usually just an excuse to stop and search someone who's doing something suspicious, like being a black man in public.

Or woman.

I met a woman at the march yesterday. During the conversation, we somehow got on to the subject of 'driving while black'. She told me about the time she and her daughter were stopped for walking on the sidewalk. Not jaywalking, like this man was beaten for. Not walking in the street like Michael Brown.

Just walking on the sidewalk like any other normal law-abiding citizen.

After the interrogation about who she was and why she was there (in a predominantly white neighborhood she lives in), the officer claimed they were searching for a run-away

 

[RavenSky]

True. He did not want to cooperate in being targeted for his race with a bullshit fine that he cannot afford. The cops then made it worse by trying to arrest him (which they could and should have chosen not to do), which was another unjust act he didn't want to cooperate with so he fled, then when they caught him, they beat him beyond any reasonable level required for competent cops to subdue him.
That beating had nothing to do with subduing him but is proven by the officers own threats to be a premeditated act of planned criminal assault.
As the cop is chasing him: "You know what's funny is you're gonna get f---ed up hardcore!"

The cop is a criminal that should be in prison, beyond any reasonable doubt.


So, it is false to say he was beaten simply for jaywalking. It is accurate to say "Man needless beaten by incompetent and racist cops for not agreeing to be racially targeted and extorted for a bullshit charge."

Jaywalk safely and the cops are unlikely to care. Jaywalk either dangerously or in a fashion that disrupts traffic and you're liable to get a ticket.

Or, safely jaywalk on an empty street at 3am on your way home from work and cops won't care, unless your black.

^^^ What RonBurgundy said

 

[Jolly_Penguin]

I don't see a case of a black man beaten up for jaywalking, either.

I see a case of a black man beaten up for resisting arrest. Whites who resist arrest sometimes get beaten, also.

That could be, but he appears to have been ticketed based on his appearance. Do you think a white woman in a business suit would have been ticketed in the same situation? Was this guy holding up traffic or creating a disturbance?

Kasparian admits TYT isn't showing the full body cam footage. Anybody seen this in more complete context? TYT is about as trustworthy as Fox.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

I don't see a case of a black man beaten up for jaywalking, either.

I see a case of a black man beaten up for resisting arrest. Whites who resist arrest sometimes get beaten, also.

That could be, but he appears to have been ticketed based on his appearance. Do you think a white woman in a business suit would have been ticketed in the same situation? Was this guy holding up traffic or creating a disturbance?

Kasparian admits TYT isn't showing the full body cam footage. Anybody seen this in more complete context? TYT is about as trustworthy as Fox.

He was jaywalking. He came to the cops' attention. Cops normally don't do foot patrols these days. Thus it seems very likely to me that the cops found him in their path of their car.

Note, also, that jaywalking comes in two flavors:

1) Crossing without a crosswalk or implied crosswalk. Understandable and not an issue if it's done safely.

2) Walking in the street. There's no reason for this (in the worst case you might need to walk on the edge of the pavement when there is no sidewalk or reasonable shoulder, you should never be walking along in a traffic lane.) As far as I'm concerned that always warrants a ticket.

 

[laughing dog]

I don't see a case of a black man beaten up for jaywalking, either.

I see a case of a black man beaten up for resisting arrest. Whites who resist arrest sometimes get beaten, also.

That could be, but he appears to have been ticketed based on his appearance. Do you think a white woman in a business suit would have been ticketed in the same situation? Was this guy holding up traffic or creating a disturbance?

Kasparian admits TYT isn't showing the full body cam footage. Anybody seen this in more complete context? TYT is about as trustworthy as Fox.

He was jaywalking. He came to the cops' attention. Cops normally don't do foot patrols these days. Thus it seems very likely to me that the cops found him in their path of their car.

Note, also, that jaywalking comes in two flavors:

1) Crossing without a crosswalk or implied crosswalk. Understandable and not an issue if it's done safely.

2) Walking in the street. There's no reason for this (in the worst case you might need to walk on the edge of the pavement when there is no sidewalk or reasonable shoulder, you should never be walking along in a traffic lane.) As far as I'm concerned that always warrants a ticket.

Do you realize how much stuff you literally had to make up in order to justify the conclusion that the police officers harassment over jaywalking was justified? (Hint, I underlined it)