Now the alt-left is going after Columbus ...

[Jimmy Higgins]

Jebus, are you seriously going to be that pedantic?

Unless "pedantic" means "without a fucking clue", I must disagree.

I meant more being hyper-literal with the word "upset". Pedantic may not have been the best choice of words.

 

[RavenSky]

Yes, in fact they did.

You need to learn some history.

Exactly. Just read the Book of Mormon and it will tell you all about the advanced societies in North America prior to Columbus coming over.

LOL! Not quite what I was thinking of

 

[Loren Pechtel]

The Aztecs had slaves.

Better get onto ANTIFA and ask them to pull down any Aztec relics.

He said Columbus introduced slavery. I pointed out slavery was already in the New World.

 

[LordKiran]

Better get onto ANTIFA and ask them to pull down any Aztec relics.

He said Columbus introduced slavery. I pointed out slavery was already in the New World.

The aztecs ruled over tributaries of non-aztecs who's sins probably didn't merit being enslaved en mass and otherwise left to die.

 

[dismal]

He said Columbus introduced slavery. I pointed out slavery was already in the New World.

The aztecs ruled over tributaries of non-aztecs who's sins probably didn't merit being enslaved en mass and otherwise left to die.

Aztecs fought wars to enslave people and provide a steady stream of human sacrifices. They were also bad on women's rights.

Their statues need to come down.

 

[Elixir]

Yeah, people used to be fucking brutal. DOWN WITH ANTIQUITIES!

 

[whichphilosophy]

The US needs to discuss this issue sensibly and mark some delineations as to what can be agreed on without mobs representing un-elected parties such as ANTIFA, and other anarchist and revolutionary leftists tearing down statues anywhere they go.

Perhaps this could expand as follows to several German companies profited from slavery so any of their symbols would need to come down which could be done again through dialogue.

• ALLGEMEINE ELEKTRIZITÄTS GESELLSCHAFT (AEG)
• ADLERWERKE AG (FORMERLY HEINRICH KLEYER AG)
• BAYERISCHE MOTORENWERKE AG (BMW)
• BERGER
• BOSCH
• BERGWERKS INDUSTRIE AG
• DAIMLER
• DEUTCHESBANK
• GOLDFISCH (A SUBSIDIARY OF DAIMLER-BENZ)
• GRUEN & BULFINGER
• HENKEL & CIE
• HEINKEL FLUGZEUGWERKE, AIRCRAFT FACTORY, ZUFFENHAUSEN
• HUGO BOSS (designed the SS UNIFORM)
• KESSLER FACTORY
• KOCH & MAYER
• KRUPP STEEL WORKS
• MERCEDES BENZ (AMALGAMATED WITH DAIMLER
• MESSERSCHMITT AG
• SIEMENS
• VOLKESWAGEN

A few of these companies don't exist anymore.

See also:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/162126.stm

Also it seems the BANK OF ENGLAND was involved:


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/...-helped-the-Nazis-to-sell-plundered-gold.html

And British companies

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2007/jul/01/theobserver.observerbusiness4

ew efforts are being made to expose British companies that profited from the African slave trade in a bid to claim reparations.

The Global Afrikan Congress, representing people of African descent, has started detailed investigations in the Caribbean to establish which firms were active there and what became of them.

British banking, insurance and shipping companies may face legal battles as campaigners take encouragement from a decision made in the US courts last December, when a senior judge gave leave to Deadria Farmer-Paellmann, a descendant of slaves in the States and a legal expert, to sue some of the biggest names on Wall Street.

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Better get onto ANTIFA and ask them to pull down any Aztec relics.

He said Columbus introduced slavery. I pointed out slavery was already in the New World.

So, pull down their relics too

 

[Loren Pechtel]

The aztecs ruled over tributaries of non-aztecs who's sins probably didn't merit being enslaved en mass and otherwise left to die.

Aztecs fought wars to enslave people and provide a steady stream of human sacrifices. They were also bad on women's rights.

Their statues need to come down.

I wasn't even trying to attack the Aztecs, but rather rebut a claim about Columbus.

 

[RavenSky]

... without mobs representing un-elected parties such as ANTIFA...

WOW... you really got your single-note marching orders for this month, didn't you?

 

[Elixir]

... without mobs representing un-elected parties such as ANTIFA...

WOW... you really got your single-note marching orders for this month, didn't you?

Rejoice that he's off the usual 'Marxists-under-the-bed" rant.

 

[Tom Sawyer]

... without mobs representing un-elected parties such as ANTIFA...

WOW... you really got your single-note marching orders for this month, didn't you?

Hey, if he doesn't parrot the party line enough times during the day, he doesn't get to eat that night. It's not like he's given a choice in what to post.

 

[ZiprHead]

... without mobs representing un-elected parties such as ANTIFA...

WOW... you really got your single-note marching orders for this month, didn't you?

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

People knew the earth was round but Columbus argued it was a pear.

Also, Adam Ruins Everything:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MJoKhO9G1g

 

[repoman]

Man, I think we must be at chapter 5 or 6 of The Turner Diaries by now.

 

[LordKiran]

Aztecs fought wars to enslave people and provide a steady stream of human sacrifices. They were also bad on women's rights.

Their statues need to come down.

I wasn't even trying to attack the Aztecs, but rather rebut a claim about Columbus.

And I was pointing out that most of the people killed by Cortez/Columbus were not Aztecs.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

I wasn't even trying to attack the Aztecs, but rather rebut a claim about Columbus.

And I was pointing out that most of the people killed by Cortez/Columbus were not Aztecs.

Which is completely irrelevant.

The assertion was made that Columbus brought slavery to the New World.

I cited the Aztecs as evidence that slavery already existed in the New World. I didn't explicitly point out that this rebutted the original claim, I figured that was obvious.

 

[Derec]

People knew the earth was round but Columbus argued it was a pear.

Also, Adam Ruins Everything:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MJoKhO9G1g

Often Adam is unfair with his "ruining", and this is no exception.

So, Columbus did not discover America because he never set foot in what is to become United States? As if the entire continent wasn't America.
It is also historically unclear what he thought he found. The claim that he thought until his dying day that he landed in India is not a fact.
And while people did know that the Earth was round in his day, there was some debate as to the circumference. The idea of a smaller Earth was not his invention.
For example, the German globe called Erdapfel, made just before and during Columbus' first voyage, has a short distance between Europe and Asia.

 

[LordKiran]

And I was pointing out that most of the people killed by Cortez/Columbus were not Aztecs.

Which is completely irrelevant.

The assertion was made that Columbus brought slavery to the New World.

I cited the Aztecs as evidence that slavery already existed in the New World. I didn't explicitly point out that this rebutted the original claim, I figured that was obvious.

I don't think the assertion was that there was never slavery in the Americas. But rather what we think of as Chattel slavery was not present, or at the very least not nearly as prevalent as the colonists made it.