The "virtue signaling" is the Mayor and the other government idiots punishing these cops for doing their job. Thought that was obvious. But you always gotta make it about race. Always.
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The "virtue signaling" is the Mayor and the other government idiots punishing these cops for doing their job. Thought that was obvious. But you always gotta make it about race. Always.
Derec
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True, but others managed to wait without biting anybody.
It is thus a separate issue. And one for which the mayor is responsible. But it's easier to throw officers under the bus.
Derec
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Phillip Walzak is DeBlasio's man at NYPD. Of course he's going to toe the party line.
But have you read the entire article?
How the woman was sitting on the floor even though there were seats? How she refused to get up? How she grabbed her kid to prevent getting arrested? How she hit and bit officers?
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It's a violent crime. It should not be downplayed just because the perp is high on the progressive stack.
Derec
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What police brutality? Be specific.
Where is the "abuse of power" here? She refused to move, so police were called. She also had an outstanding warrant. She resisted arrest with violence.
She is in the wrong here.
See the OP title? That is the main topic of the thread.
Derec
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So a city agency is dysfunctional. Whose fault is it?
a) Mayor
b) City council
c) Two HRA officers who were attacked by a crazy woman
d) Both a and b
Where is the brutality? I do not see where they used more force than necessary. It is Headley who engaged in unnecessary violence.
I see you have yet to learn the meaning of "snowflake".
untermensche
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She was being assaulted.
It was self defense.
She was scared.
Cops get to shoot unarmed people when they are scared.
laughing dog
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You should heed the beeping of your irony meter.
laughing dog
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Two felony offenses, each of which clearly threatened the lives and livelihoods of the people around them.
The HRA people over-reacted and called the police. The woman over-reacted when approached by the police. The baby was placed in a dangerous situation by the woman but the police exacerbated the situation by using physical force.
From the report, it appears there was little effort to use dialogue to diffuse the situation.
laughing dog
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We've been through this before. You are not Ben Johnson nor the official arbiter of the English language. "Snowflake" as a slang insulting description has been around for a long time (https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/the-less-lovely-side-of-snowflake).
Arctish
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The cops weren't punished.
The mayor was criticized for waiting several days before commenting while the police investigated the incident. And when he did comment, it was to propose training and new procedures for handling similar situations, i.e. supportive of the cops and their mission while also seeking improvements that would make their job easier and the citizenry safer.
The OP article is loaded with hyperbolic, pejorative language and leaves out important details in an apparent attempt to gin up outrage against a woman sitting on a floor as she waits hours to see a social worker. You can find less strident, more thorough reports on other websites if you're interested in getting a clearer picture of what actually happened and how city officials responded.
laughing dog
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Yes, the NY Daily News article is pretty one-sided and sensational. In contrast,
https://www.politico.com/states/new-york/city-hall/story/2018/12/14/no-punishment-for-officers-in-jazmine-headley-arrest-749056 gives a less one sided view of the incident.
BTW, the mother did spend 5 days in jail on the charges that were dropped.
https://www.politico.com/states/new-york/city-hall/story/2018/12/14/no-punishment-for-officers-in-jazmine-headley-arrest-749056 gives a less one sided view of the incident.
BTW, the mother did spend 5 days in jail on the charges that were dropped.
Indeed, and for reference, an actual video of her "interaction" with police:
[YOUTUBE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DF-2yNGQBmQ[/YOUTUBE]
Now, it looks much less to me like she's "using her child as a shield", and much more like a cop is trying to yank the kid from her arms, and she's holding on - which makes sense as a mother, and especially as a poor mother who may see their child tossed into Protective Services. But this story where she was treated well, and the cops were all nice and caring to the child - nonsense. I also don't see how she was such a massive disruption to the office, even if she were sitting on the floor, so I don't care much whether or not there were empty seats - assuming that they were in a section she was "allowed" to sit in, and so forth. Not that I particularly believe these reports, given that they've already apparently mischaracterized a few important matters.
I think a lot of people don't quite get that many of these offices that help low income people, are *very* hostile to their clients. Even assuming that there were empty seats, moving to an empty seat could put her in a completely different area, where she simply couldn't hear the people responsible for the service she was there for, as one example. 4 hours waiting doesn't shock me in the slightest. Again, it looks to me like she picked a place that wasn't disrupting anything, and someone lost their mind anyway.
*However*, it should be noted that she was wanted on charges in New Jersey, so holding her wasn't necessarily the wrong move, either. Now, holding her in Rikers Island, which should be shut down entirely, is wrong, but again, that facility should be shut down entirely. Nonetheless, she should, ideally, travel and answer for the charges there, which as I understand involve credit card fraud.
RavenSky
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^^^ That. After 4 hours of standing while holding her baby, the least this office should have done is get her a chair.
Instead, the call the police.
RavenSky
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Arctish
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I'd like to know if he ever had to care for a toddler while waiting in line for hours on end. I had to do it in an airport once and yes, you reach a point where you either give up your place in line or you sit down right where you are as you try to invent another way to keep your child entertained.
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Yep, the only way not to hate white people is to fail to notice when white people support armed white insurgents threatening the government (and stealing from me, btw, and all of us) and lose their collective minds when a beleaguered black woman objects to having her infant ripped out of her arms.
Why is the race of some guys in Oregon relevant to the OP? FFS.
laughing dog
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You're the one who opened the door about hating white people, ffs.
Derec
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Is it? At least it gives details about what actually happened. Besides, NYDN is a lefty rag, and so they are unlikely to exaggerate against somebody as high on the progressive stack as the biter.
This article largely glosses over what happened, and focuses more on the outcome. But what actually happened is highly relevant.
But the charges should not have been dropped. She really did resist arrest. She really did bite an officer. I do not think DA should drop viable charges just because of politics.
If the DA did not want her serving any additional time, he could have plea bargained her to a misdemeanor, time served and some amount of community service.
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"Beleaguered"? She put herself in that situation. And she grabbed her kid for the express purpose of using him to avoid getting arrested.
Do you think parents of small children should be able to use them as a "get out of jail free" card? Because that's what it sounds to me. At least if the parent is black and female ...