Officers never get indicted? NYPD Officer Indicted In Death Of Akai Gurley

[Axulus]

A New York City police officer has been indicted in the shooting death of 28-year-old Akai Gurley, law enforcement sources told both NY1 and The New York Daily News Tuesday.

A bullet fired by rookie officer Peter Liang killed Gurley on Nov. 20 inside the darkened stairwell of the Pink Houses in East New York, Brooklyn.

Although NYPD Commissioner William Bratton initially characterized the shooting as an “accidental discharge,” Brooklyn District Attorney Ken Thompson announced in December that he was convening a grand jury to investigate Gurley’s death.

A spokesperson for district attorney Thompson on Tuesday declined to confirm the indictment to The Huffington Post, saying the office was “precluded by grand jury secrecy.” It’s unclear what charges Liang is facing in Gurley’s death.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/02/10/akai-gurley_n_6655536.html

 

[ksen]

Well, I guess that makes everything all better.

 

[Horatio Parker]

The officers in the Sean Bell shooting in NY were indicted. Found not guilty and either fired or forced to resign, but they were indicted.

 

[Shadowy Man]

At that moment, a bullet was fired from Liang’s gun, striking Gurley in the chest.

Apparently, it's not even clear that he was responsible for the firing of the bullet, so who knows how this will play out in court.

 

[Axulus]

At that moment, a bullet was fired from Liang’s gun, striking Gurley in the chest.

Apparently, it's not even clear that he was responsible for the firing of the bullet, so who knows how this will play out in court.

Bullets don't just magically fly out of guns. At a minimum, he seems guilty of manslaughter if he had no intent to fire (he was negligent with a deadly weapon, leading to a death).

Furthermore, why was the gun even drawn in the first place? There were no specific threats or crimes reported in the location. The officers were on patrol, not responding to an incident.

 

[ksen]

And from what I've read they weren't even supposed to be there as the commander of that area had put a stop to the kind of sweep the officers were engaged in.

 

[Tom Sawyer]

And from what I've read they weren't even supposed to be there as the commander of that area had put a stop to the kind of sweep the officers were engaged in.

Well, it looks like this guy is going to get charged with disobeying a superior officer and is going to find himself on the receiving end of a week's worth of desk work.

It's a strong statement that will keep the rest of the police in line.

 

[Shadowy Man]

Apparently, it's not even clear that he was responsible for the firing of the bullet, so who knows how this will play out in court.

Bullets don't just magically fly out of guns. At a minimum, he seems guilty of manslaughter if he had no intent to fire (he was negligent with a deadly weapon, leading to a death).

Furthermore, why was the gun even drawn in the first place? There were no specific threats or crimes reported in the location. The officers were on patrol, not responding to an incident.

I agree with your points. I was criticizing the writing of the article to use the passive voice with regard to the firing of the bullet, as if it just came out of the gun on its own.

 

[Derec]

Furthermore, why was the gun even drawn in the first place? There were no specific threats or crimes reported in the location. The officers were on patrol, not responding to an incident.

Perhaps the girlfriend hired Liuang to do it, seeing how the victim was visiting another young lady at the time ...

 

[fromderinside]

Furthermore, why was the gun even drawn in the first place? There were no specific threats or crimes reported in the location. The officers were on patrol, not responding to an incident.

Perhaps the girlfriend hired Liuang to do it, seeing how the victim was visiting another young lady at the time ...

OMG. Its out. Liuang shot the guy horning in on his girlfriend. An on duty assassination.

Way to go NYPD. Give cover to your own. Assure he's restricted to desk duty for a week. Liaung didn't even have to buy a clean gun or hire a hit man. Talk about benefits.

 

[laughing dog]

This case is egregious and it still has taken this long to get charges. If Liung is not a police officer, he is already charged.

 

[RavenSky]

Furthermore, why was the gun even drawn in the first place? There were no specific threats or crimes reported in the location. The officers were on patrol, not responding to an incident.

Perhaps the girlfriend hired Liuang to do it, seeing how the victim was visiting another young lady at the time ...

Are you being serious or is this your idea of a joke?

 

[Horatio Parker]

Apparently, it's not even clear that he was responsible for the firing of the bullet, so who knows how this will play out in court.

Bullets don't just magically fly out of guns. At a minimum, he seems guilty of manslaughter if he had no intent to fire (he was negligent with a deadly weapon, leading to a death).

Furthermore, why was the gun even drawn in the first place? There were no specific threats or crimes reported in the location. The officers were on patrol, not responding to an incident.

In NYC housing projects, officers are allowed to have their guns out when on "vertical patrol" in stairwells. Initially they said Liang opened a door with one hand and his gun and a flashlight in the other.

 

[Shadowy Man]

Initially they said Liang opened a door with one hand and his gun and a flashlight in the other.

Unless it's one of those flashlights that mounts to the top of a gun, I am unclear as to how one actually holds a gun and a flashlight at the same time in one hand.

 

[ksen]

Bullets don't just magically fly out of guns. At a minimum, he seems guilty of manslaughter if he had no intent to fire (he was negligent with a deadly weapon, leading to a death).

Furthermore, why was the gun even drawn in the first place? There were no specific threats or crimes reported in the location. The officers were on patrol, not responding to an incident.

In NYC housing projects, officers are allowed to have their guns out when on "vertical patrol" in stairwells. Initially they said Liang opened a door with one hand and his gun and a flashlight in the other.

The police commander of that housing authority had put "vertical patrols" off limits before this shooting.

 

[Horatio Parker]

In NYC housing projects, officers are allowed to have their guns out when on "vertical patrol" in stairwells. Initially they said Liang opened a door with one hand and his gun and a flashlight in the other.

The police commander of that housing authority had put "vertical patrols" off limits before this shooting.

Good idea. The policy of guns out has ended, I believe.

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Initially they said Liang opened a door with one hand and his gun and a flashlight in the other.

Unless it's one of those flashlights that mounts to the top of a gun, I am unclear as to how one actually holds a gun and a flashlight at the same time in one hand.

I advise against experimentation.

Anyway, that's what one of the early stories said.

 

[Malintent]

Well, I guess that makes everything all better.

It does for the racists that think all white cops are out to get all black people.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Initially they said Liang opened a door with one hand and his gun and a flashlight in the other.

Unless it's one of those flashlights that mounts to the top of a gun, I am unclear as to how one actually holds a gun and a flashlight at the same time in one hand.

On top of? That would keep you from aiming the gun unless you also had a laser sight. The only ones I've seen were under the barrel.

 

[Malintent]

Unless it's one of those flashlights that mounts to the top of a gun, I am unclear as to how one actually holds a gun and a flashlight at the same time in one hand.

On top of? That would keep you from aiming the gun unless you also had a laser sight. The only ones I've seen were under the barrel.

I have scopes for my rifles that mount on top, but have a "pass through" arch between the barrel and scope to leave the "iron sights" unobstructed... no reason a flashlight couldn't be mounted exactly the same way.

 

[hurtinbuckaroo]

On top of? That would keep you from aiming the gun unless you also had a laser sight. The only ones I've seen were under the barrel.

I have scopes for my rifles that mount on top, but have a "pass through" arch between the barrel and scope to leave the "iron sights" unobstructed... no reason a flashlight couldn't be mounted exactly the same way.

On a handgun? I would think you'd want as clear a view as possible, not just "unobstructed iron sights".