Olympia mayor takes the knee, BLM vandalises her home anyway

[Metaphor]

If you are disputing the facts of the story, please tell me what facts you are disputing.

Not disputing any facts. Are you disputing the fact that white supremacist agitators are responsible for most of the violence associated with BLM?

"White supremacist agitators?" "Most of the violence"?

How have you determined these "facts"?

Do you have video of the individual vandalizing the mayor's home? If not, why isn't it reasonable to assume it was another boogaloo job?

There's a screenshot of it in my original post. There was also a link later on:

https://www.king5.com/article/news/...lism/281-1f9c516c-8f52-4a21-ac2a-0f9d082bc899

I don't know what a boogaloo is, but I do have a hard time understanding this article of faith that all violence that has emerged from BLM is a false flag operation.

 

[Metaphor]

The person who spray paints looks white to me.

...and?

If the person was black, there is a reason to suspect that they consider themselves #BLM isn't an unreasonable conclusion.

If the person is white, spray painting BLM on the Mayor's home can be a sign of either support of #BLM or mocking her for kneeling and they aren't supporting #BLM. Your OP assumes support of BLM. In Nashville a white supremo lit the Nashville Courthouse on fire. In Cleveland, two white losers (no political affiliation that I'm aware of) from Pennsylvania caused damage during the protests there.

So without additional evidence, it is inconclusive.

So, you have a racist assumption that any black person appearing to support #BLM must, in fact, be sincerely supporting it, and any white person appearing to support it might genuinely support it but you don't know?

 

[Toni]

"White supremacist agitators?" "Most of the violence"?

How have you determined these "facts"?

Do you have video of the individual vandalizing the mayor's home? If not, why isn't it reasonable to assume it was another boogaloo job?

There's a screenshot of it in my original post. There was also a link later on:

https://www.king5.com/article/news/...lism/281-1f9c516c-8f52-4a21-ac2a-0f9d082bc899

I don't know what a boogaloo is, but I do have a hard time understanding this article of faith that all violence that has emerged from BLM is a false flag operation.

I don't know about what happened in Olympia but I do know someone I have known a long time and trust who actually saw the white guy with the umbrella start the destruction at the protest in Minneapolis as was documented in video.

So that's why some of us think about false flags, etc. We've actually seen it happen.

 

[Metaphor]

"White supremacist agitators?" "Most of the violence"?

How have you determined these "facts"?

Do you have video of the individual vandalizing the mayor's home? If not, why isn't it reasonable to assume it was another boogaloo job?

There's a screenshot of it in my original post. There was also a link later on:

https://www.king5.com/article/news/...lism/281-1f9c516c-8f52-4a21-ac2a-0f9d082bc899

I don't know what a boogaloo is, but I do have a hard time understanding this article of faith that all violence that has emerged from BLM is a false flag operation.

I don't know about what happened in Olympia but I do know someone I have known a long time and trust who actually saw the white guy with the umbrella start the destruction at the protest in Minneapolis as was documented in video.

So that's why some of us think about false flags, etc. We've actually seen it happen.

I still don't understand. Are you saying all white people in BLM are false flag plants?

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

If the person was black, there is a reason to suspect that they consider themselves #BLM isn't an unreasonable conclusion.

If the person is white, spray painting BLM on the Mayor's home can be a sign of either support of #BLM or mocking her for kneeling and they aren't supporting #BLM. Your OP assumes support of BLM. In Nashville a white supremo lit the Nashville Courthouse on fire. In Cleveland, two white losers (no political affiliation that I'm aware of) from Pennsylvania caused damage during the protests there.

So without additional evidence, it is inconclusive.

So, you have a racist assumption that any black person appearing to support #BLM must, in fact, be sincerely supporting it, and any white person appearing to support it might genuinely support it but you don't know?

So you are back to just trolling at this point?

 

[Metaphor]

If the person was black, there is a reason to suspect that they consider themselves #BLM isn't an unreasonable conclusion.

If the person is white, spray painting BLM on the Mayor's home can be a sign of either support of #BLM or mocking her for kneeling and they aren't supporting #BLM. Your OP assumes support of BLM. In Nashville a white supremo lit the Nashville Courthouse on fire. In Cleveland, two white losers (no political affiliation that I'm aware of) from Pennsylvania caused damage during the protests there.

So without additional evidence, it is inconclusive.

So, you have a racist assumption that any black person appearing to support #BLM must, in fact, be sincerely supporting it, and any white person appearing to support it might genuinely support it but you don't know?

So you are back to just trolling at this point?

No. I have not been trolling. I am trying to clarify what it is you are saying.

You said the person who vandalised the mayor's house was white, and that's all you said, as if you were making some kind of point that was supposed to be obvious to everybody.

Well, it isn't obvious. It isn't obvious at all. So what if the person was white? Do white people not support BLM?

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

So you are back to just trolling at this point?

No. I have not been trolling. I am trying to clarify what it is you are saying.

You said the person who vandalised the mayor's house was white, and that's all you said, as if you were making some kind of point that was supposed to be obvious to everybody.

Well, it isn't obvious. It isn't obvious at all. So what if the person was white? Do white people not support BLM?

This was explained in the post you responded to, but didn't apparently read... or you are trolling.

 

[Metaphor]

So you are back to just trolling at this point?

No. I have not been trolling. I am trying to clarify what it is you are saying.

You said the person who vandalised the mayor's house was white, and that's all you said, as if you were making some kind of point that was supposed to be obvious to everybody.

Well, it isn't obvious. It isn't obvious at all. So what if the person was white? Do white people not support BLM?

This was explained in the post you responded to, but didn't apparently read... or you are trolling.

No. I have read and re-read your post, and I don't understand what you are saying.

"It is inconclusive". What conclusion did I make?

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

This was explained in the post you responded to, but didn't apparently read... or you are trolling.

No. I have read and re-read your post, and I don't understand what you are saying.

"It is inconclusive". What conclusion did I make?

Mayor Selby took the knee to BLM, and ten days later her home was vandalised by a protester spraypainting BLM on her house (and picked a spot one metre away from the Mayor's own display of 'BLM' in her window).

You couldn't make it up.

I suppose one could play dumb and indicate that when you said "protestor" you didn't say whether it was a white supremecist or BLM supporter, but the 'you couldn't make it up' part really does imply you thought #BLM supporters vandalized the Mayor's home.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

It seems like from the pictures, they are all white people. This seems a little weird. You'd expect to at least have 1 or 2 black people. You know, like an 80's movie.

Maybe if they had some reasonable black people in the group, they'd be like "Guys, this is crazy don't do it."

Or maybe they aren't really BLM. I think they probably really are BLM but it's just weird that they are all white privileged people on a mission to spray paint houses. It doesn't seem to accomplish much except get people mad at BLM.

It's like if I murdered someone and then took the blood of my victim and wrote my name on the wall. You'd think, "that looks like someone is framing him." I mean, I might actually be a crazy white person doing that or it might have been someone else.

Okay.....

Lastly, what is the purpose in posting a thread like this or rather what is the purpose in discussing an anecdote. Is the purpose to make people look bad and therefore their message? If it's not ideological, then what purpose does it serve? Do I really need to be informed that there are some bad apples out there way over in Olympia who spray painted somebody's house?

 

[Politesse]

It seems like from the pictures, they are all white people. This seems a little weird. You'd expect to at least have 1 or 2 black people. You know, like an 80's movie.

Well, it is Washington. I'd be surprised to learn that there were more than a thousand blacks in the capital city, they were pioneers of redlining and other racist policies and strategies. Back in the day, black soldiers and airmen from Fort Lewis or McChord AFB weren't so much as allowed to enter Olympia, not even for a can of soda pop.

 

[Metaphor]

Mayor Selby took the knee to BLM, and ten days later her home was vandalised by a protester spraypainting BLM on her house (and picked a spot one metre away from the Mayor's own display of 'BLM' in her window).

You couldn't make it up.

I suppose one could play dumb and indicate that when you said "protestor" you didn't say whether it was a white supremecist or BLM supporter, but the 'you couldn't make it up' part really does imply you thought #BLM supporters vandalized the Mayor's home.

When people spraypaint BLM on things, I don't think it's unreasonable that they mean it.

 

[Metaphor]

It seems like from the pictures, they are all white people. This seems a little weird. You'd expect to at least have 1 or 2 black people. You know, like an 80's movie.

Maybe if they had some reasonable black people in the group, they'd be like "Guys, this is crazy don't do it."

Or maybe they aren't really BLM. I think they probably really are BLM but it's just weird that they are all white privileged people on a mission to spray paint houses. It doesn't seem to accomplish much except get people mad at BLM.

It's like if I murdered someone and then took the blood of my victim and wrote my name on the wall. You'd think, "that looks like someone is framing him." I mean, I might actually be a crazy white person doing that or it might have been someone else.

Okay.....

Lastly, what is the purpose in posting a thread like this or rather what is the purpose in discussing an anecdote. Is the purpose to make people look bad and therefore their message? If it's not ideological, then what purpose does it serve? Do I really need to be informed that there are some bad apples out there way over in Olympia who spray painted somebody's house?

God how I've missed you coming into threads I start to complain about them. It's so wonderful when you contribute with an open mind. We're so blessed to have you on the board.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

Translation: I don't want to answer any of your rational questions. Nanny nanny booboo!

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Mayor Selby took the knee to BLM, and ten days later her home was vandalised by a protester spraypainting BLM on her house (and picked a spot one metre away from the Mayor's own display of 'BLM' in her window).

You couldn't make it up.

I suppose one could play dumb and indicate that when you said "protestor" you didn't say whether it was a white supremecist or BLM supporter, but the 'you couldn't make it up' part really does imply you thought #BLM supporters vandalized the Mayor's home.

When people spraypaint BLM on things, I don't think it's unreasonable that they mean it.

Okay, so you concede you made a conclusion, so all the previous stuff was needless bluster?

So can we move on to the next part where when a white person spray paints BLM as graffiti, it can be white supremos mocking BLM and the Mayor kneeling or BLM supporters who are being assholes, and we can't tell the difference, so your conclusion isn't based on anything but your political bias.

 

[Metaphor]

Okay, so you concede you made a conclusion, so all the previous stuff was needless bluster?

No, it was not "bluster".

So can we move on to the next part where when a white person spray paints BLM as graffiti, it can be white supremos mocking BLM and the Mayor kneeling or BLM supporters who are being assholes, and we can't tell the difference, so your conclusion isn't based on anything but your political bias.

It's political bias to think that people spraypainting BLM mean it? And of course, you yourself are free of political bias?

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

It's political bias to think that people spraypainting BLM mean it?

Now you are getting it.

 

[Derec]

The person who spray paints looks white to me.

Most people in Portland are white. The city has relatively few blacks in the city, ~6%. But most of the white people in Portland are left, not right.

 

[Derec]

Are you disputing the fact that white supremacist agitators are responsible for most of the violence associated with BLM?

Definitely disputing that.

Do you have video of the individual vandalizing the mayor's home? If not, why isn't it reasonable to assume it was another boogaloo job?

Because white != boogaloo. There are many white leftists who are genuine #BLM supproters. Especially in a Left Wing city like Portland - Hillary got 73% in Multnomah County.

 

[Trausti]

Are you disputing the fact that white supremacist agitators are responsible for most of the violence associated with BLM?

Definitely disputing that.

Do you have video of the individual vandalizing the mayor's home? If not, why isn't it reasonable to assume it was another boogaloo job?

Because white != boogaloo. Especially in a Left Wing city like Portland.

It’s amazing the media success in gaslighting people to think that antifa doesn’t exist. They’ve been a pest for us in the NW for years now.