Yes, you cannot possibly imagine how much I literally care in my literal-mind about the date Canada gained independence.
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On this Day in History, December 6, 1865
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Yes, you cannot possibly imagine how much I literally care in my literal-mind about the date Canada gained independence.
Any fool can manipulate such people, as Trump is demonstrating. Working on it, are we?
Long way to go!
Any fool can manipulate such people, as Trump is demonstrating. Working on it, are we?
OK. Whatever.
Derec
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You mean racists who believe white people are devils? Only if you walk up to "brothers" in white hoods selling whatever it is they are selling and question them about their beliefs.
And yes, I really wonder. It makes no sense to me to convert to Islam of all things, especially given the history of Islam and slavery.
Derec
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It's no more a derail than the independence of Canada. The timeline of slavery abolition suggested that particular question to me, so there is some relevance to the topic.
Derec
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Less than a year is actually pretty good given amendment history.
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I have been to Klan parades, walked up to men in full regalia and asked them just that. In case you did not get the memo, scared negroes are in short supply these days. Most are either dead or ain't been born yet.
then ask the fellow who switched to the Nation.
Turns out it's easier to get states to agree to an amendment after you have conquered them and/or have replaced their democratic government with a military government you control.
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It was also years before countries like France abolished it in their overseas colonies.Yes, the US abolishing slavery 60 years before Afghanistan makes me proud to be an American.
In any case, it soundly refutes Tom Sawyer's "Hey, thirty years behind the rest of the world" quip.
Hardly.
Athena's post starts with the 1865 passing of the US 13th Amendment; But if you take a look at the article it is taken from, you will see that it goes back a LONG way before that.
It includes such pre-1865 gems as:
1706: In the case of Smith v. Browne & Cooper, Sir John Holt, Lord Chief Justice of England, rules that "as soon as a Negro comes into England, he becomes free. One may be a villein in England, but not a slave.
1772: Somersett's case held that no slave could be forcibly removed from Britain. This case was generally taken at the time to have decided that the condition of slavery did not exist under English law in England and Wales, and emancipated the remaining ten to fourteen thousand slaves or possible slaves in England and Wales, who were mostly domestic servants.
1775–83: Britain's rebellious North American Colonies ban or suspend the Atlantic slave trade.
1775: Pennsylvania Abolition Society formed in Philadelphia, the first abolition society within the territory that is now the United States of America.
1778: Joseph Knight was successful in arguing that Scots law could not support the status of slavery.
1780: Pennsylvania passes An Act for the Gradual Abolition of Slavery, freeing future children of slaves. Those born prior to the Act remain enslaved for life. The Act becomes a model for other Northern states. Last slaves freed 1847.
1787: Sierra Leone founded by Britain as colony for emancipated slaves.
1787: Society for the Abolition of the Slave Trade founded in Britain.
1793: Upper Canada (Ontario) abolishes import of slaves by Act Against Slavery.
1794: France abolishes slavery in all its possessions. (However, slavery is restored by Napoleon in 1802.)
1794: The United States bans American ships from the trade and prohibits export by foreign ships in the Slave Trade Act.
1800: The United States bans its citizens' investment and employment in the international slave trade in an additional Slave Trade Act.
1803: Denmark–Norway: abolition of transatlantic slave trade takes effect 1 January 1803
1807: The British begin patrols of African coast to arrest slaving vessels. The West Africa Squadron (Royal Navy) is established to suppress slave trading; by 1865, nearly 150,000 people freed by anti-slavery operations
1811: Slave trading made a felony in the British Empire, punishable by transportation for British subjects and foreigners.
1835: Treaty between Britain and France to abolish slave trade.
1835: Treaty between Britain and Denmark to abolish slave trade.
Perhaps this is the source of Tom Sawyer's '30 years behind the world' comment?
1836: Republic of Texas is established. Slavery is made legal again.
1845: 36 British Royal Navy ships are assigned to the Anti-Slavery Squadron, making it one of the largest fleets in the world.
1850: In the United States, the Fugitive Slave Law of 1850 requires the return of escaped slaves to their owners.
1859: Trans-Atlantic slave trade completely ends
1862: Treaty between United States and Britain for the suppression of the slave trade (African Slave Trade Treaty Act).
1863: In the United States, Abraham Lincoln issues the presidential order the Emancipation Proclamation declaring slaves in Confederate-controlled areas to be freed. Most slaves in "border states" are freed by state action; separate law freed the slaves in Washington, D.C.
And that's just the Early Modern stuff. The first full abolition listed in that article (and the second entry in their list) is:
221–206 BC: The Qin Dynasty's measures to eliminate the landowning aristocracy include the abolition of slavery and the establishment of a free peasantry who owed taxes and labor to the state. They also discouraged serfdom. The dynasty was overthrown in 206 BC and many of its laws were overturned.
So that puts the 13th amendment 2,086 years behind the first laws eliminating slavery. What took you so long??
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You can shuck and jive all you want, but your comment was and is pointless to the discussion. Your fears about "black radicals" and your ignorance about black people do not justify these "suggested questions".
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President Obama loves you anyway, Derec.
The Hindu 'Untouchables' in India converted to Buddhism in large numbers, and people whose ancestors were enslaved by - and they themselves pissed on by - pretend Christians sometimes became Muslims, of a sort. What else would anyone expect? ...
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Derec
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A lot of leftists think Islam is superior to Western civilization. You would like former head of Swedish Social Democratic Party, Mona Sahlin aka Mona Muslim. But be careful. Useful idiots become disposable once they are no longer useful. Just look what happened to leftist allies of Khomeini's coup after his weirdbeards took power.
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Eyup. Leftists are so weak in Iran that they succeeded in getting the reich wingers, weirdbeards in your words, to accept a nuclear accord with the Great Satan. Now its the conservatives, clansmen in my words, in the US screaming "We got raped" 'cause the US returned money it had held of Iran's from 1980 til now. Amazing what weirdbeards, klansmen, will do isn't it.
Yes, here we are in 2016 going on 2017 preparing to role back modernity to the good old gay 1890s before Roosevelt's (Teddy not Franklin) anti-monopoly and banking laws cut back of Oligarch rape of the 'merican common man. Ain't non democratic republics wunnerful.
I'm all for proposing January 20, 2017 as the date of the beginning of the new dark ages.
What the hell would the likes of you know about western civilization?
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barbos
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Due to that loophole slavery in US went well into 1940-something I understand. Blacks and sometimes whites too were arrested for phony crimes and then sold into slavery
Derec
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Certainly more than the likes of you or Mona Sahlin/Muslim, who believes it begins and ends with May poles ...
Derec
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Citation needed.
However, I know some radicals have claimed prisons in general were slavery. For example, cop killer Joanne Chesimard (aka Assata Shakur) called herself an "escaped slave" even though she was arrested and convicted of a real crime (murder), and not any "phony crimes".
barbos
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Some PBS documentary I watched. Yes it was a real thing.
Derec
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The Iran deal is a bad deal for us but a good deal for them. They get lifting of sanctions and access to hundreds of billions of frozen assets and in return they only have to delay their nuclear weapon program for 10 years and can still pursue sponsorship of international terrorism. Who would not take such a sweetheart deal, weirdbeard or not?