One Billionaire's Suggestion to Address Inequality

[Tom Sawyer]

Your scenario is BS. Problem is that chessmasters are the ones who win. A Chessmaster overthinking is out of the question. When playing chess there is a clock so thinking is less important than proven reacting. Besides have you ever been out in the snow during a storm? Can't see anything.

Chessmasters can quite clearly overthink. They can take something simple and make it more complex than it needs to be. You seem to be saying that chessmasters don't make mistakes or strategic errors. That's clearly nonfactual.

Also, this was a fight between Canadians and Russians. Just because it took place in the Arctic during a winter snowstorm doesn't mean that we weren't all out in t-shirts and shorts and had no problem finding our way around. Boy, are you Yanks lucky they didn't get past us, though, because I've been in Atlanta when a couple of snowflakes dropped and you'd have thought there was a zombie outbreak by the panic going on.

 

[dismal]

I have been out in the snow during storms and seen things, but I have lost track of how this relates to chess mastery, and how chess mastery relates to giant statuary, and how giant statuary relates to ksen's latest prole-revolution fetish so maybe it's not important.

A part of the problem might be that you read the OP and thought I was calling for revolution in it.

Hint: I wasn't.

I just assumed you were busy playing with your toy guillotine again.

 

[ksen]

Not this time. I was lolling at a billionaire putting "higher taxes" on the same level as "violent revolution" and "wars". And also for him thinking some corporate behavior survey will actually change anything.

 

[Tom Sawyer]

Not this time. I was lolling at a billionaire putting "higher taxes" on the same level as "violent revolution" and "wars". And also for him thinking some corporate behavior survey will actually change anything.

He's probably invested in the corporate behaviour survey company and is just drumming up some business. There's a reason that he managed to become a billionaire.

 

[ksen]

*behavior

 

[Tom Sawyer]

*behavior

It would be поведение up in Alaska if not for the Canadian army, buddy.

 

[dismal]

Not this time. I was lolling at a billionaire putting "higher taxes" on the same level as "violent revolution" and "wars". And also for him thinking some corporate behavior survey will actually change anything.

So he's first up against the wall, right?

 

[coloradoatheist]

And I thought the 1% controlled everything. We have several billionaires asking for taxes to be raised but they can't control Congress enough to do that?

 

[ksen]

Not this time. I was lolling at a billionaire putting "higher taxes" on the same level as "violent revolution" and "wars". And also for him thinking some corporate behavior survey will actually change anything.

So he's first up against the wall, right?

No, I think that right should go to someone like Jamie Dimon or Lloyd Blankfein.

 

[fromderinside]

Your scenario is BS. Problem is that chessmasters are the ones who win. A Chessmaster overthinking is out of the question. When playing chess there is a clock so thinking is less important than proven reacting. Besides have you ever been out in the snow during a storm? Can't see anything.

Chessmasters can quite clearly overthink. They can take something simple and make it more complex than it needs to be. You seem to be saying that chessmasters don't make mistakes or strategic errors. That's clearly nonfactual.

Also, this was a fight between Canadians and Russians. Just because it took place in the Arctic during a winter snowstorm doesn't mean that we weren't all out in t-shirts and shorts and had no problem finding our way around. Boy, are you Yanks lucky they didn't get past us, though, because I've been in Atlanta when a couple of snowflakes dropped and you'd have thought there was a zombie outbreak by the panic going on.

Appealing to some imaginary and quite wrong proposition won't fix your blunder. A chessmaster never times out and almost always wins. Canadians who Curl, on the other hand, need to go slow so the iron won't go too fast which is just why they almost always fail. It takes a team of curlers to compete. Hell, even then they need brooms to correct their mistakes and that often fails as well. What is that?

BTW my friend in SAC back in the day had your back. When the Russians saw his B 52 they turned tail and ran. Nobody ever saw an Curling irons and I have it on good authority that Canada hasn't got a Tank. So much for your t shirt snow blind wonders. If I didn't know better I'd believe it was a Canadian who developed the Gloop maker fantasy. Now that is a good story.

 

[Axulus]

So he's first up against the wall, right?

No, I think that right should go to someone like Jamie Dimon or Lloyd Blankfein.

This Blankfein?

While growth in the U.S. has improved, Blankfein said inequality remains a destabilizing force in the American economy.

...

"We have to do a better job" of distributing wealth, he said. "Everybody has to join in."

http://money.cnn.com/2015/02/24/investing/lloyd-blankfein-china-capitalism-goldman-sachs/

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Canada just purchased 13 WWI era tanks from the UK for $1.1 billion. They had previously purchased 4 Civil War era submarines from Britain 8 years ago, which caused a little controversy when the things started melting down. Not nuclear meltdown, but once the things touched water, they were dissolving.

 

[ksen]

No, I think that right should go to someone like Jamie Dimon or Lloyd Blankfein.

This Blankfein?

While growth in the U.S. has improved, Blankfein said inequality remains a destabilizing force in the American economy.

...

"We have to do a better job" of distributing wealth, he said. "Everybody has to join in."

http://money.cnn.com/2015/02/24/investing/lloyd-blankfein-china-capitalism-goldman-sachs/

Yes, that Blankfein.

 

[Axulus]

This Blankfein?

While growth in the U.S. has improved, Blankfein said inequality remains a destabilizing force in the American economy.

...

"We have to do a better job" of distributing wealth, he said. "Everybody has to join in."

http://money.cnn.com/2015/02/24/investing/lloyd-blankfein-china-capitalism-goldman-sachs/

Yes, that Blankfein.

Shouldn't you prefer to have as many rich sympathetic to your side seeing as they control the congress, rather than kill them off? Or would you prefer to off the Koch Bros' competition for congressional control?

Also:

Jamie Dimon Agrees With Occupy Wall Street: 'Too Much Inequality'

http://www.dailyfinance.com/on/jamie-dimon-economic-inequality-jpmorgan-occupy/

 

[Toni]

fyi, OWS is what put income inequality on the political radar. The movement itself might be gone but the issue it raised is front and center.

It did? Most people either knew about it already or just thought OWS was a bunch on unemployed college students. The media never really took OWS seriously, not nearly as seriously as the Obama protests in the Spring/Summer of '13, when teabaggers marched with angry signs about how they threatened revolution if they didn't get exactly what they wanted.

There were Obama protests with angry teabaggers? I totally forgot that and so would everybody else if they weren't called tea-baggers. Even with that delightful nick name, it requires the steady efforts of at least one entire network plus all the spittle that Limbaugh can manage to keep the Tea Party front and center. You've got Walker, who has driven Wisconsin straight to hell, Rand Paul who lacks whatever charisma anyone ever saw in his old man, Cruz who only just a couple of years ago got around to renouncing his Canadian citizenship and...who, exactly? But why fault the leadership when the real culprit is that the economy is rebounding. Not as fast as anyone would like but a lot better than most of the rest of the world. And the Repugnicans know it too. Why else have they concentrated so much effort on trying to crash the economy again? And to start more wars?

I think that you are either not well informed about history or have forgotten just how long it took to get to even Brown v. Board of Education much less how long between Brown v. Board and Selma and the Voting Rights Act.

Unions started to become something of a force in the late 1880s but it wasn't until FDR's New Deal policies and the Wagner Act of 1935 that unions received real protections. So: 50 years or so.

 

[ksen]

This Blankfein?

While growth in the U.S. has improved, Blankfein said inequality remains a destabilizing force in the American economy.

...

"We have to do a better job" of distributing wealth, he said. "Everybody has to join in."

http://money.cnn.com/2015/02/24/investing/lloyd-blankfein-china-capitalism-goldman-sachs/

Yes, that Blankfein.

Shouldn't you prefer to have as many rich sympathetic to your side seeing as they control the congress, rather than kill them off? Or would you prefer to off the Koch Bros' competition for congressional control?

Also:

Jamie Dimon Agrees With Occupy Wall Street: 'Too Much Inequality'

http://www.dailyfinance.com/on/jamie-dimon-economic-inequality-jpmorgan-occupy/

No.

 

[lpetrich]

And I thought the 1% controlled everything. We have several billionaires asking for taxes to be raised but they can't control Congress enough to do that?

I think that they were reluctant to do what was necessary to really make a difference: finance congresspeople's careers. Warren Buffett doesn't seem to have the sort of political machine that the Koch brothers have, for instance.

 

[coloradoatheist]

And I thought the 1% controlled everything. We have several billionaires asking for taxes to be raised but they can't control Congress enough to do that?

I think that they were reluctant to do what was necessary to really make a difference: finance congresspeople's careers. Warren Buffett doesn't seem to have the sort of political machine that the Koch brothers have, for instance.

So it's not really the 1% that control government, but really people who have some resources but care deeply about politics and get involved?

 

[bilby]

I think that they were reluctant to do what was necessary to really make a difference: finance congresspeople's careers. Warren Buffett doesn't seem to have the sort of political machine that the Koch brothers have, for instance.

So it's not really the 1% that control government, but really people who have some resources but care deeply about politics and get involved?

That's right; it is only the fraction of the 1% who care enough to get involved in politics who control government.

 

[coloradoatheist]

So it's not really the 1% that control government, but really people who have some resources but care deeply about politics and get involved?

That's right; it is only the fraction of the 1% who care enough to get involved in politics who control government.

It's not the 1% though, it's just different groups that get involved in politics.