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How’s the saying go: “I have never wished anyone dead but I have joyfully read a few obituaries.”
 
No, two to go. There's still three left; one was forced out of the family business of destroying the world for being gay, so he isn't an issue, but beyond the other of the two politically "loud" brothers, there's still another fuckass shitheel who just keeps his head down.
 
IIRC there was a twin forced out of the business by David and Charles. I wonder if he'll make a comeback.
 
David Koch was one of the world's top philanthropists, donating more to cancer research than anyone in the world, funding leading scientific research aimed at improving lives through places like John Hopkins and MIT, leading a coalition of groups including the ACLU on criminal justice reform, was an early supporter of gay rights and gay marriage before it was popular, spoke against the military industrial complex and the drug war...

And yes, he contributed to a political party some of you didn't agree with, even if he specifically opposed their current President.

This is a loss for humanity, and humanity would miss him if it wasn't for the constant and undeserved demonization and vilification of a pair of people who's only crime was having the "wrong" politics and caring enough to fund their beliefs. He funded political causes he thought would benefit humanity, and you disagreed with some of his proposed solutions or maybe whether he should have been allowed to donate as much as he did, legally.

Maybe you're right and maybe you're wrong about the actual effects of his advocacy, but... find out what he stood for before you dance on his grave, especially if you don't even know what he stood for rather than what his opponents presented him to be for political purposes.
 
Jason Harvestdancer said:
David Koch was one of the world's top philanthropists, donating more to cancer research than anyone in the world, funding leading scientific research aimed at improving lives through places like John Hopkins and MIT, leading a coalition of groups including the ACLU on criminal justice reform, was an early supporter of gay rights and gay marriage before it was popular, spoke against the military industrial complex and the drug war...

And yes, he contributed to a political party some of you didn't agree with, even if he specifically opposed their current President.

This is a loss for humanity, and humanity would miss him if it wasn't for the constant and undeserved demonization and vilification of a pair of people who's only crime was having the "wrong" politics and caring enough to fund their beliefs. He funded political causes he thought would benefit humanity, and you disagreed with some of his proposed solutions or maybe whether he should have been allowed to donate as much as he did, legally.

Maybe you're right and maybe you're wrong about the actual effects of his advocacy, but... find out what he stood for before you dance on his grave, especially if you don't even know what he stood for rather than what his opponents presented him to be for political purposes.
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He was a force of the philosophy of selfishness echoing through humanity, a Randian solipsist to the end who helped politicize the judiciary through the creation The Heritage Foundation.

He made his money through environmental destruction and fought tirelessly against environment protection and against the mitigation of climate change. He and his brother may have single-handedly doomed our species and every land animal larger than a breadbox.

Whatever advocacy he spoke for for gay people is shit upon by the fact that he allowed his own brother to be forced out of the family legacy over his homosexuality; advocacy of such would at best be visible as his own guilt over those events.i would never dance on his grave. It would bring too much joy to the idea of his life. I would rather install a toilet there that empties into his crypt.
 
ZiprHead said:
David Koch, billionaire conservative activist and philanthropist, dies at 79

All that money hoarded and he still died like everyone else will.
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Those sentences really don't go together.
 
TSwizzle said:
Jarhyn said:
He and his brother may have single-handedly doomed our species and every land animal larger than a breadbox.
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Drama much ? Get a grip.
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Says a climate change denier. The Amazon and the Arctic burn. Greenland is melting. The ice caps are vanishing. But "This is fine."

You get a grip. On the Calthrate gun and real climate science.
 
Jason Harvestdancer said:
David Koch was one of the world's top philanthropists, donating more to cancer research than anyone in the world, funding leading scientific research aimed at improving lives through places like John Hopkins and MIT, leading a coalition of groups including the ACLU on criminal justice reform, was an early supporter of gay rights and gay marriage before it was popular, spoke against the military industrial complex and the drug war...

And yes, he contributed to a political party some of you didn't agree with, even if he specifically opposed their current President.

This is a loss for humanity, and humanity would miss him if it wasn't for the constant and undeserved demonization and vilification of a pair of people who's only crime was having the "wrong" politics and caring enough to fund their beliefs. He funded political causes he thought would benefit humanity, and you disagreed with some of his proposed solutions or maybe whether he should have been allowed to donate as much as he did, legally.

Maybe you're right and maybe you're wrong about the actual effects of his advocacy, but... find out what he stood for before you dance on his grave, especially if you don't even know what he stood for rather than what his opponents presented him to be for political purposes.
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I don't think you're looking at the full impact of their influence. It's not their politics, per se, it's the way they used their money to influence politics, in ways that very few people can. It's the dirty deeds, like stealing oil from Indian reservations than hiding or destroying the documentation, when they were being investigated. It's how they used their political influence to help impact regulations regarding their own industries. Those are a few of the things that make them despised.

And, while it's true they did give some money to charities, it was a total of about 1.2 billion, which considering that Koch is worth something like 42 billion, is not really a sacrifice at all. It appears as if you're only looking at the very little positive impact David made, without looking at all of his corrupt ways. I'm pretty sure that Bill Gates and Warren Buffet have given far more money away to charity, to name a couple of other billionaires who at least seem far more philanthropic than David Koch.

And, it's very possible that the rest of the family will continue to do harmful things, so maybe his death won't change a thing. But his death is certainly no loss to humanity. Nobody should be permitted to have so much political influence on our political system, just because they are ultra rich.

I did a little happy dance when I heard of his death. It just jumped out of me. I didn't cause him to die. I didn't wish him dead, but I did despise him, his corruption, as well as his unhealthy influence on politics. Why would anyone admire a person that bought off politicians because they had the money to do that?
 
Jarhyn said:
TSwizzle said:
Jarhyn said:
He and his brother may have single-handedly doomed our species and every land animal larger than a breadbox.
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Drama much ? Get a grip.
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Says a climate change denier. The Amazon and the Arctic burn. Greenland is melting. The ice caps are vanishing. But "This is fine."

You get a grip. On the Calthrate gun and real climate science.
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There are plenty of animals in zoos. And if people are hungry, why are there empty seats in restaurants?
And I'm sure TS has a really good, similar argument against this article.

Testing theclathrate gun hypothesis
 
southernhybrid said:
And, while it's true they did give some money to charities, it was a total of about 1.2 billion, which considering that Koch is worth something like 42 billion, is not really a sacrifice at all.
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Also consider all the money he gave for cancer research, AFTER he got cancer.
 
Jarhyn said:
TSwizzle said:
Jarhyn said:
He and his brother may have single-handedly doomed our species and every land animal larger than a breadbox.
Click to expand...

Drama much ? Get a grip.
Click to expand...

Says a climate change denier. The Amazon and the Arctic burn. Greenland is melting. The ice caps are vanishing. But "This is fine."

You get a grip. On the Calthrate gun and real climate science.
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It really is a rapture like cult.

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ZiprHead said:
David Koch, billionaire conservative activist and philanthropist, dies at 79

He and his brother, Charles Koch, helped to build a massive conservative network of donors to support libertarian-leaning economic policies.
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All that money hoarded and he still died like everyone else will.
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Indeed. And 79 is not really that old nowadays either, especially if you are 62 like I am. It is very very sobering to say the least when someone with virtually unlimited resources still can not manage to keep themselves alive.

Without life, all the money in the world means nothing at all.
 
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