Pastor Kevin Swanson: Better To Drown Your Kids Than Let Them Read Harry Potter

[GenesisNemesis]

Link.

it would be better for them that a millstone be hanged around [childrens'] neck and they be drowned at the bottom of the sea than that there would be so many people stumbling so many children in public schools, in movie theaters, in homes, in which children are raised to be stumbled by the Dumbledores and by the mentors of Hiccup in How to Train Your Dragon

Is there anything that we can do about this guy? Surely he's breaking some law by advocating killing children?

 

[Keith&Co.]

I know how people can stumble, but how do you stumble kids?

 

[Tom Sawyer]

Is there anything that we can do about this guy? Surely he's breaking some law by advocating killing children?

Especially when he advocates killing them in such an inefficient manner.

I mean, why go all the way to the sea? If they have a millstone around their neck weighing them down then tossing them into a ten foot deep pond gets the same result with a fraction of the travel.

 

[Atheos]

Well he's badly quoting Jeebus. Matt 18:6 / Luke 17:2. Better for someone to be tossed into the sea with a millstone around his neck than for him to cause "one of these little ones" to stumble.

Scare tactics for early Christians to ensure they kept the kids indoctrinated by threatening rational people with horrible death if they interfered with the indoctrination process.

 

[Sarpedon]

I honestly totally missed Gobber coming out as homosexual. I really don't think that statement he made was entirely clear in that direction, anyway. All he said was that there was another reason he didn't get married. Frankly, I thought it was a reference to his hideousness, social disfunction or possibly self-conciousness about his disabilities. At no point was his sexuality even an issue in those movies. What's with these people, anyhow? I mean do they sit down and watch movies just to count who is homosexual or not?

And it amazes me that reverend dickless would fixate on that and not on the fact that all the human characters are pagans in "How to Train your Dragon."

 

[crazyfingers]

So Cruz, Huckabee and Jindal all spoke at the conference largely organized by Kevin Swaanson where...

Swanson closed out the “liberty” conference with a fiery speech in which he proclaimed that although he does believe in the death penalty for gays, he wouldn't advocate for the government to execute gay people — or, at least, not yet.

The conditions aren't right, Swanson explained. The culture hasn't fully embraced his movement's version of Christianity, and therefore gay people don't know that homosexuality is a death penalty crime that they must renounce before it provokes divine destruction. He said he would recommend that the government wait to impose the death penalty until the culture shifts, giving gays time to repent.=

So, he wants a death penalty for gays. Just doesn't think he can win that argument... yet.

What persona with any goodness in them would ever consider Cruz, Huckabee or Jindal remotely respectable in any way?

 

[Bacillus anthracis]

If you buy into it, you have to admit he's right. If you can guarantee the saving of your children's souls by killing them, then what the hell are you waiting for? Yeah, you'll do some prison time and maybe even be executed, but dammit your kids will get a one way ticket to eternal bliss and relatively soon after you kill them, you'll be there with them.

Doing otherwise is like making them wade through a river of crocodiles to get to school when you could just drive them safely there. Come on man; what the fuck, do you want your kid to get eaten by crocodiles?

As for the killing of gays. Well yeah. The Bible says so and God doesn't change his mind. How can these believers go about their lives disobeying the Word when they know what's at stake?

 

[gmbteach]

WTF?!

 

[Valjean]

Bacillus is right, given the underlying premise.
If our mortal lives are just a short, refining stage to separate the wheat from the chaff; if our only purpose here is to prepare for an eternal Heaven, wouldn't a get-in-free shortcut that bypasses threescore & ten years on the threshing floor be a desirable thing?

The situation reminds me of this recent incident: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-than-let-strange-men-touch-her-10448008.html

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

So Cruz, Huckabee and Jindal all spoke at the conference largely organized by Kevin Swaanson where...

Swanson closed out the “liberty” conference with a fiery speech in which he proclaimed that although he does believe in the death penalty for gays, he wouldn't advocate for the government to execute gay people — or, at least, not yet.

The conditions aren't right, Swanson explained. The culture hasn't fully embraced his movement's version of Christianity, and therefore gay people don't know that homosexuality is a death penalty crime that they must renounce before it provokes divine destruction. He said he would recommend that the government wait to impose the death penalty until the culture shifts, giving gays time to repent.=

So, he wants a death penalty for gays. Just doesn't think he can win that argument... yet.

What persona with any goodness in them would ever consider Cruz, Huckabee or Jindal remotely respectable in any way?

He literally wants to create a Christian Taliban.

 

[ideologyhunter]

Hopefully, someday, in a different America, there will be a shaming consequence for indoctrinating the young 'uns on a murderous deity who demands death for gays, nonvirginal brides, virginal brides who can't prove they're virgins, people who work on a sabbath (Saturday or Sunday, just to be safe), witches, proselytizers for different faiths, people who engage in interspecies sex, and the young, old, unborn, and donkeys and chickens of just about anyone you're at war with. For god is love.

 

[arcadia]

Upstate NY last month an entire congregation including the victims' parents gathered and collectively beat one teenager to death and severely injured another for suggesting that they might want to leave the congregation.
So, yes, words, even biblical words do have meaning. And the words sanctioning beating disobedient children to death come straight out of Jesus' mouth.

 

[Bomb#20]

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it would be better for them that a millstone be hanged around [childrens'] neck and they be drowned at the bottom of the sea than that there would be so many people stumbling so many children in public schools, in movie theaters, in homes, in which children are raised to be stumbled by the Dumbledores and by the mentors of Hiccup in How to Train Your Dragon

Is there anything that we can do about this guy? Surely he's breaking some law by advocating killing children?

Have you considered the merits of not arguing for censorship by relying on a fabricated quotation? The square brackets in your "quote" are a straight-up confession that Swanson did not say what you're saying he said. He said something different from that, and either you or Ms. Beredjick took out what he actually said and plugged in the word "children's" in its place. If you did it, that was unethical. If she did it, that was unethical and you should have noticed that she did it when you cut and pasted.

Well he's badly quoting Jeebus. Matt 18:6 / Luke 17:2. Better for someone to be tossed into the sea with a millstone around his neck than for him to cause "one of these little ones" to stumble.

Scare tactics for early Christians to ensure they kept the kids indoctrinated by threatening rational people with horrible death if they interfered with the indoctrination process.

Bingo. Swanson was obviously talking about the adults who lead children astray being better off drowned, not about drowning children.

Yes, Swanson is a dick, but that doesn't mean he isn't entitled to have the truth told about him.

 

[GenesisNemesis]

Bingo. Swanson was obviously talking about the adults who lead children astray being better off drowned, not about drowning children.

Yes, Swanson is a dick, but that doesn't mean he isn't entitled to have the truth told about him.

Alright, I retract my statement. Mistakes happen, everyone's vulnerable to them.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Have you considered the merits of not arguing for censorship by relying on a fabricated quotation? The square brackets in your "quote" are a straight-up confession that Swanson did not say what you're saying he said.

Not a confession, just the understood interpretation by the person adding the words. They were mistaken with what the asshole was saying. It is sloppy to swing vague pronouns when talking about drowning people.

Bingo. Swanson was obviously talking about the adults who lead children astray being better off drowned, not about drowning children.

It isn't quite "obvious".

Can we get to the part about murdering gays now?

 

[Underseer]

You atheists are so evil!

How dare you criticize a Christian for calling on parents to kill their children? What is wrong with you disgusting sinners? Why do you always have to persecute Christians? Why do you hate God so much? Is it because your parents mistreated you as children? Is that why you have to constantly oppress Christians for the crime of being more moral than you? [/christian]