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Fact: Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell had no intention of leading the Senate in an impartial trial. He publicly stated he would be "taking his cues" from the White House when setting up the trial. A trial without impartiality is by definition "rigged."
Fact: Likely more than 50 senators (out of 100) agree that Trump is guilty of the abuses he is accused of. Republican Senator Lamar Alexander said this: "It was inappropriate for the president to ask a foreign leader to investigate his political opponent and to withhold United States aid to encourage that investigation." Republican Representative Ben Sasse said of Lamar Alexander's comments: "Let me be clear; Lamar speaks for lots and lots of us." Republican Senator Marco Rubio also agrees that the president has committed impeachable offences. "Just because actions meet a standard of impeachment does not mean it is in the best interest of the country to remove a President from office." 47 Dems + Alexander, +Rubio, + "lots and lots" (Sasse + at least one other Republican Senator) and you get at least 51 senators who know Trump was trying to corrupt the 2020 election.
The impeachment case has been proven. There is plenty of evidence to convict. The witnesses blocked by Trump ARE unnecessary to prove the case. The decision to help hide the extent of Trump's misbehavior, however, is a shameful badge that 51 Republican senators will wear with dishonor.
Fact: Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell had no intention of leading the Senate in an impartial trial. He publicly stated he would be "taking his cues" from the White House when setting up the trial. A trial without impartiality is by definition "rigged."
Fact: Likely more than 50 senators (out of 100) agree that Trump is guilty of the abuses he is accused of. Republican Senator Lamar Alexander said this: "It was inappropriate for the president to ask a foreign leader to investigate his political opponent and to withhold United States aid to encourage that investigation." Republican Representative Ben Sasse said of Lamar Alexander's comments: "Let me be clear; Lamar speaks for lots and lots of us." Republican Senator Marco Rubio also agrees that the president has committed impeachable offences. "Just because actions meet a standard of impeachment does not mean it is in the best interest of the country to remove a President from office." 47 Dems + Alexander, +Rubio, + "lots and lots" (Sasse + at least one other Republican Senator) and you get at least 51 senators who know Trump was trying to corrupt the 2020 election.
The impeachment case has been proven. There is plenty of evidence to convict. The witnesses blocked by Trump ARE unnecessary to prove the case. The decision to help hide the extent of Trump's misbehavior, however, is a shameful badge that 51 Republican senators will wear with dishonor.
Problem with Senator Alexander's statement is that no one deserves to hear the rest of the story. Why, because your ass is sore from sitting so long? We've got enough facts to show guilt. Must we sit through all of it? Well shit. Someone tell Harvey Weinstein. Must we hear from all these women? Aren't a few enough to put him away? The rest should be forbidden from making any public statements. It's completely unnecessary.
And once again legislators abdicate their authority. It would not be politically advantageous to do otherwise. This way, if Trump remains in office for another term, we have no one to blame but ourselves.
they STILL never said 'wait,' that's a mistruth.Fact: Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell had no intention of leading the Senate in an impartial trial. He publicly stated he would be "taking his cues" from the White House when setting up the trial. A trial without impartiality is by definition "rigged."
Fact: Likely more than 50 senators (out of 100) agree that Trump is guilty of the abuses he is accused of. Republican Senator Lamar Alexander said this: "It was inappropriate for the president to ask a foreign leader to investigate his political opponent and to withhold United States aid to encourage that investigation." Republican Representative Ben Sasse said of Lamar Alexander's comments: "Let me be clear; Lamar speaks for lots and lots of us." Republican Senator Marco Rubio also agrees that the president has committed impeachable offences. "Just because actions meet a standard of impeachment does not mean it is in the best interest of the country to remove a President from office." 47 Dems + Alexander, +Rubio, + "lots and lots" (Sasse + at least one other Republican Senator) and you get at least 51 senators who know Trump was trying to corrupt the 2020 election.
The impeachment case has been proven. There is plenty of evidence to convict. The witnesses blocked by Trump ARE unnecessary to prove the case. The decision to help hide the extent of Trump's misbehavior, however, is a shameful badge that 51 Republican senators will wear with dishonor.
Problem with Senator Alexander's statement is that no one deserves to hear the rest of the story. Why, because your ass is sore from sitting so long? We've got enough facts to show guilt. Must we sit through all of it? Well shit. Someone tell Harvey Weinstein. Must we hear from all these women? Aren't a few enough to put him away? The rest should be forbidden from making any public statements. It's completely unnecessary.
And once again legislators abdicate their authority. It would not be politically advantageous to do otherwise. This way, if Trump remains in office for another term, we have no one to blame but ourselves.
The problem with your Weinstein comparison is that if they went to trial and said, "We have enough evidence to convict Harvey. We're ready for trial," and then during the trial they said, "No wait! We need more witnesses!," it wouldn't fly.
they STILL never said 'wait,' that's a mistruth.The problem with your Weinstein comparison is that if they went to trial and said, "We have enough evidence to convict Harvey. We're ready for trial," and then during the trial they said, "No wait! We need more witnesses!," it wouldn't fly.
You're still pretending they did not list the documents they wanted and the witnesses they wanted before the trial started. The ones Trump kept from the House.
You know, the obstruction?
they STILL never said 'wait,' that's a mistruth.The problem with your Weinstein comparison is that if they went to trial and said, "We have enough evidence to convict Harvey. We're ready for trial," and then during the trial they said, "No wait! We need more witnesses!," it wouldn't fly.
You're still pretending they did not list the documents they wanted and the witnesses they wanted before the trial started. The ones Trump kept from the House.
You know, the obstruction?
they STILL never said 'wait,' that's a mistruth.The problem with your Weinstein comparison is that if they went to trial and said, "We have enough evidence to convict Harvey. We're ready for trial," and then during the trial they said, "No wait! We need more witnesses!," it wouldn't fly.
You're still pretending they did not list the documents they wanted and the witnesses they wanted before the trial started. The ones Trump kept from the House.
You know, the obstruction?
A more apt analogy (which Halfie will never admit is happening) is if - before the trial had even begun - the judge and jurors stated "we've been working very hard with Mr. Weinstein's attorneys and Mr. Weinstein himself to make absolutely sure we'll all be on the same page. We've decided that he's going to be acquitted of all charges. Yes, we know he raped those women, but we're fans of all of his movies and...to be honest...we think those bitches had it coming."
Then the prosecutors come in and say "we've got four more accusers who have physical evidence and corroborating testimony which proves the defendant assaulted them." To which the judge says "sorry, we're not going to allow those new witnesses. Or any witnesses. Or any evidence. Or any documents. Did you not hear us the first time? We are going to acquit him, no matter what."
Trump only has executive privelidge while he is the executive. All the hidden dirt is coming out eventually.... unless Trump and the GOP succeed in completely destroying American democracy by crowning him president for life. I wouldn't put it beneath them.AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANY, PLEASE GO AHEAD AND MANUFACTURE SOME!
My guess is even if they try, they won't find anything.
You really think the Republicans would acquit Trump just so all the dirt can come out on him? Trump's not that dumb, guys. He's always one step ahead of your thinking.
Trump only has executive privelidge while he is the executive. All the hidden dirt is coming out eventually.... unless Trump and the GOP succeed in completely destroying American democracy by crowning him president for life. I wouldn't put it beneath them.AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANY, PLEASE GO AHEAD AND MANUFACTURE SOME!
My guess is even if they try, they won't find anything.
You really think the Republicans would acquit Trump just so all the dirt can come out on him? Trump's not that dumb, guys. He's always one step ahead of your thinking.
I've seen some Bernie Bros. on youtube say, "If Bernie does a good job, I wouldn't mind abolishing term limits and essentially making him a benevolent dictator. It's a lot better than any other option we have. Once Bernie's out of office, the next President will just bring us back to capitalism again. It would be a waste of effort by Bernie."
Don't get mad at Republicans for saying the same things about Trump.
I've seen some Bernie Bros. on youtube say, "If Bernie does a good job, I wouldn't mind abolishing term limits and essentially making him a benevolent dictator. It's a lot better than any other option we have. Once Bernie's out of office, the next President will just bring us back to capitalism again. It would be a waste of effort by Bernie."
Don't get mad at Republicans for saying the same things about Trump.
What does your statement have to do with the post you quoted?
they STILL never said 'wait,' that's a mistruth.The problem with your Weinstein comparison is that if they went to trial and said, "We have enough evidence to convict Harvey. We're ready for trial," and then during the trial they said, "No wait! We need more witnesses!," it wouldn't fly.
You're still pretending they did not list the documents they wanted and the witnesses they wanted before the trial started. The ones Trump kept from the House.
You know, the obstruction?
A more apt analogy (which Halfie will never admit is happening) is if - before the trial had even begun - the judge and jurors stated "we've been working very hard with Mr. Weinstein's attorneys and Mr. Weinstein himself to make absolutely sure we'll all be on the same page. We've decided that he's going to be acquitted of all charges. Yes, we know he raped those women, but we're fans of all of his movies and...to be honest...we think those bitches had it coming."
Then the prosecutors come in and say "we've got four more accusers who have physical evidence and corroborating testimony which proves the defendant assaulted them." To which the judge says "sorry, we're not going to allow those new witnesses. Or any witnesses. Or any evidence. Or any documents. Did you not hear us the first time? We are going to acquit him, no matter what."
What does your statement have to do with the post you quoted?
Because if that was Bernie's picture underneath that quote, a lot of Bernie Bros. wouldn't have a problem with it.
Bernie isn't and wouldn't destroy democracy while sucking Putin's dick the way Bonespurs has.
Bernie isn't and wouldn't destroy democracy while sucking Putin's dick the way Bonespurs has.
"So you admit it - Sanders could learn a thing or two from President Trump!" /HL
What does your statement have to do with the post you quoted?
Because if that was Bernie's picture underneath that quote, a lot of Bernie Bros. wouldn't have a problem with it.
Bernie isn't and wouldn't destroy democracy while sucking Putin's dick the way Bonespurs has.
Bernie isn't and wouldn't destroy democracy while sucking Putin's dick the way Bonespurs has.
Building hotels in Russia doesn't mean Trump is a puppet.
Where's the evidence? This Russian conspiracy thing is insane.