Perception vs. Reality

[KeepTalking]

That is an incredibly stupid graphic, since the issue is blacks killed by the police not white people.

It would have been better if it said "someone white or police", sure, but white civilians killing black people gets unwarranted amount of attention in the media and among activists. So it's not just police.

Take that guy who was killed in South Georgia. Ahmed something. Because his killers were white, that became national news and Anderson Cooper et al were all over it for months. During those months, dozens of black people have been shot and killed in Atlanta without much fanfare.

Maybe it had something to do with those idiots, one of whom was a former cop, filming the murder and still not being charged with a crime until months later, after it became National News. WTF, Derec?

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

That is an incredibly stupid graphic, since the issue is blacks killed by the police not white people.

It would have been better if it said "someone white or police", sure, but white civilians killing black people gets unwarranted amount of attention in the media and among activists. So it's not just police.

Take that guy who was killed in South Georgia. Ahmed something. Because his killers were white, that became national news and Anderson Cooper et al were all over it for months. During those months, dozens of black people have been shot and killed in Atlanta without much fanfare.

That "Ahmed something" was chased down by white guys in a vehicle, who brandished a gun... and when "Ahmed something" defended himself, he was murdered. And this was all captured on video. The cops show up and they console the killers, not try to help to man bleeding to death. Meanwhile, the investigator tried to bury the whole thing.

 

[Elixir]

That is an incredibly stupid graphic, since the issue is blacks killed by the police not white people.

It would have been better if it said "someone white or police", sure, but white civilians killing black people gets unwarranted amount of attention in the media and among activists. So it's not just police.

Take that guy who was killed in South Georgia. Ahmed something. Because his killers were white, that became national news and Anderson Cooper et al were all over it for months. During those months, dozens of black people have been shot and killed in Atlanta without much fanfare.

That "Ahmed something" was chased down by white guys in a vehicle, who brandished a gun... and when "Ahmed something" defended himself, he was murdered. And this was all captured on video. The cops show up and they console the killers, not try to help to man bleeding to death. Meanwhile, the investigator tried to bury the whole thing.

That's the sort of thing that Conservotards think should take a back seat to the dreaded Property Damage problem. Most property damage across the US is caused either by young black males or card carrying members and officers of Antifa International Inc.. Just look at all the pipes they broke in Texas last week - BILLIONS of dollars of Property Damage !!
But Derec is no conservotard, nosiree - he believes in prostitution (just like Donald Trump), so he is a lib'rul. Just ask him.

 

[Trausti]

So far in this thread; Black people are more likely to get killed by both Police and black people than white people are. Nice to know some folks are starting to see how fucked up things are for black people. Welcome aboard.

The issue is killing of unarmed persons by police.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/investigations/police-shootings-database/

In a country of 330M people, the difference is so small as to be irrelevant.

 

[Gospel]

Aww it's so cute how you ignore per capita. I'd give you rep for just being so adorable but you might get the wrong idea.

 

[Jarhyn]

Aww it's so cute how you ignore per capita. I'd give you rep for just being so adorable but you might get the wrong idea.

You used to be able to give an equal but opposite amount. Those were good times. Could have your cake and eat it too.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Aww it's so cute how you ignore per capita. I'd give you rep for just being so adorable but you might get the wrong idea.

Someone say per capita?

And, you know, when you say “per capita,” there’s many per capitas. It’s, like, per capita relative to what? But you can look at just about any category, and we’re really at the top, meaning positive on a per capita basis, too. They’ve done a great job.

 

[KeepTalking]

Aww it's so cute how you ignore per capita. I'd give you rep for just being so adorable but you might get the wrong idea.

Someone say per capita?

And, you know, when you say “per capita,” there’s many per capitas. It’s, like, per capita relative to what? But you can look at just about any category, and we’re really at the top, meaning positive on a per capita basis, too. They’ve done a great job.

Just goes to show that even though Trump is a consummate liar, and it is right to keep repeating how often he lied, even when he isn't lying he is wrong about nearly everything he pontificates upon.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Aww it's so cute how you ignore per capita. I'd give you rep for just being so adorable but you might get the wrong idea.

It's already been pointed out--when you look at the best per capita we have--arrests--the data still says whites get shot slightly more. The only reasonable data that says blacks higher are unarmed shootings--but unarmed doesn't automatically mean the shooting was not justified. If someone lawfully points a gun at you and you try to take it they can lawfully pull the trigger even though you have no weapon.

 

[Patooka]

So considering this thread is about perception vs reality, a lot of Trumptards and militant police supporters believe that BLM is bad and not constructive. Apparently, the reality is a little different:

Has Black Lives Matter influenced police lethal use-of-force? A difference-in-differences design finds census places with Black Lives Matter protests experience a 15% to 20% decrease in police homicides over the ensuing five years, around 300 fewer deaths.

In the interest of fairness, I am also skeptical of this report. For the exact same reason I was skeptical of Trausti's link-and-run. And this report states why very clearly on page 2, paragraph 3 which is:

First, there is considerable measurement error in data for police killings and BLM protests because current data relies heavily on media reporting that is susceptible to population-driven measurement error from under-reporting. There is currently no federal database with credible data on police killings, a long-standing problem

I hope everyone enjoys the merry-go-round that occurs every time a police shooting is reported by the media. Because until reliable data collection of police shootings occur, fuck all is gonna change. US cops deserve the reputation they have.