Police Misconduct Catch All Thread

[marc]

Video recently released of an incident where police apparently shot and killed a teen that had been kidnapped.

Video shows California police fatally shooting teenager who was reported kidnapped

Revealed: Savannah Graziano, 15, shot by sheriff’s deputies in 2022 while unarmed and following instructions to move toward them

www.theguardian.com

 

[lpetrich]

Yet more good reason for cops to have only low-lethality weapons like Tasers most of the time.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Yet more good reason for cops to have only low-lethality weapons like Tasers most of the time.

You realize this situation had already gone to bullets before this happened?

And this is the Guardian and even it notes that they weren't sure if the girl had shot at them. If the Guardian is going to admit that she's probably far from innocent in this. The details are blurred out but she's shot at the point where she could have made a grab for the officer's gun.

 

[marc]

The details are blurred out but she's shot at the point where she could have made a grab for the officer's gun.

Think you need to get your eyes checked, and possible hearing. The girl was at least 20ft away from the officer.. who was repeatedly calling to her to come to him.

I know, it is so much easier to insert ‘reaching for his gun’ into any situation where an unarmed person is shot and killed, rather than actually deal with what happened.

 

[bilby]

probably far from innocent

... as are we all. So the police can justifiably shoot anyone and everyone.

I fucking hate this weak and craven inference that a victim probably deserved their fate.

Even if someone isn't perfectly innocent, that's probably far from justification, for someone whose job is the protection of the public, to shoot them dead.

Probably.

 

[ZiprHead]

Yet more good reason for cops to have only low-lethality weapons like Tasers most of the time.

You realize this situation had already gone to bullets before this happened?

And this is the Guardian and even it notes that they weren't sure if the girl had shot at them. If the Guardian is going to admit that she's probably far from innocent in this. The details are blurred out but she's shot at the point where she could have made a grab for the officer's gun.

JFC! They knew the girl was the victim of a kidnapping. That's why they were pursuing the father's vehicle in the first place,

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Yet more good reason for cops to have only low-lethality weapons like Tasers most of the time.

You realize this situation had already gone to bullets before this happened?

And this is the Guardian and even it notes that they weren't sure if the girl had shot at them. If the Guardian is going to admit that she's probably far from innocent in this. The details are blurred out but she's shot at the point where she could have made a grab for the officer's gun.

JFC! They knew the girl was the victim of a kidnapping. That's why they were pursuing the father's vehicle in the first place,

We don't know she was the victim of a kidnapping. We know she was with him.

 

[Worldtraveller]

The first part of the article:

Newly released law enforcement footage captures the moment California police fatally shot an unarmed 15-year-old girl who was a reported kidnapping victim.

On 27 September 2022, San Bernardino county sheriff’s deputies were searching for Savannah Graziano, who was feared abducted by her father Anthony Graziano after he had fatally shot her mother the day before.

You seem to always aim your skepticism at the victims here, and never at the police.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

The first part of the article:

Newly released law enforcement footage captures the moment California police fatally shot an unarmed 15-year-old girl who was a reported kidnapping victim.

On 27 September 2022, San Bernardino county sheriff’s deputies were searching for Savannah Graziano, who was feared abducted by her father Anthony Graziano after he had fatally shot her mother the day before.

You seem to always aim your skepticism at the victims here, and never at the police.

"Feared abducted" means they don't know.

 

[marc]

The first part of the article:

Newly released law enforcement footage captures the moment California police fatally shot an unarmed 15-year-old girl who was a reported kidnapping victim.

On 27 September 2022, San Bernardino county sheriff’s deputies were searching for Savannah Graziano, who was feared abducted by her father Anthony Graziano after he had fatally shot her mother the day before.

You seem to always aim your skepticism at the victims here, and never at the police.

"Feared abducted" means they don't know.

Which is all the more reason to NOT shoot. If you were one of the cops, would your reasoning really be "I think that girl might be a victim, but lets shoot her anyway just in case she isn't"?

And will you at least admit that the girl couldn't 'grab his gun' from 20 feet away?

 

[Shadowy Man]

The first part of the article:

Newly released law enforcement footage captures the moment California police fatally shot an unarmed 15-year-old girl who was a reported kidnapping victim.

On 27 September 2022, San Bernardino county sheriff’s deputies were searching for Savannah Graziano, who was feared abducted by her father Anthony Graziano after he had fatally shot her mother the day before.

You seem to always aim your skepticism at the victims here, and never at the police.

"Feared abducted" means they don't know.

Which is all the more reason to NOT shoot. If you were one of the cops, would your reasoning really be "I think that girl might be a victim, but lets shoot her anyway just in case she isn't"?

And will you at least admit that the girl couldn't 'grab his gun' from 20 feet away?

Just outside the zone of “grabbing my gun” is the zone of “fearing for my life”.

 

[Worldtraveller]

The first part of the article:

Newly released law enforcement footage captures the moment California police fatally shot an unarmed 15-year-old girl who was a reported kidnapping victim.

On 27 September 2022, San Bernardino county sheriff’s deputies were searching for Savannah Graziano, who was feared abducted by her father Anthony Graziano after he had fatally shot her mother the day before.

You seem to always aim your skepticism at the victims here, and never at the police.

"Feared abducted" means they don't know.

Jeesus fucking christ. You need help.

 

[laughing dog]

The first part of the article:

Newly released law enforcement footage captures the moment California police fatally shot an unarmed 15-year-old girl who was a reported kidnapping victim.

On 27 September 2022, San Bernardino county sheriff’s deputies were searching for Savannah Graziano, who was feared abducted by her father Anthony Graziano after he had fatally shot her mother the day before.

You seem to always aim your skepticism at the victims here, and never at the police.

"Feared abducted" means they don't know.

Let me get this straight. A unarmed girl is reportedly kidnapped by her father who is a suspect in the shooting death of her mother and who is 20 feet away from the officers is gunned down the police. Yet you think the police did not have enough information at the time to give her the benefit of the doubt that she was not an immediate threat to them?