Ramos attacked by other journalists... for doing journalism

[AthenaAwakened]

Exactly.

Ramos had all the right to ask questions to Trump.

He has a right ask. Trump ins't obligated to answer. And Ramos doesn't have the right to disrupt Trump's event and talk over other reporters.

how come he doesn't?

Ramos had his story when he was shut down and could have rightly reported that Trump refused to answer the question he'd asked and explain himself. Trump is not obligated to explain himself. The public has every right to take his refusal to into consideration when deciding whether to vote for Trump.

Ramos should have written a scathing article on Trump. That would be journalism. Disrupting an event isn't.

maybe yes, maybe no. One thing it was, was news. And a soundbite that will most likely prove to be the downfall of the Donald.

 

[ksen]

An example of good journalism:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0TIyuGemAQ[/youtube]

 

[Jolly_Penguin]

He has a right ask. Trump ins't obligated to answer. And Ramos doesn't have the right to disrupt Trump's event and talk over other reporters.

how come he doesn't?

For the same reason a school kid doesn't have a right to yell out at a teacher while the teacher has called on another student. For the same reason you don't get to run out on the field during a baseball game or run up on the stage during a concert. Ramos was rightly thrown out.

maybe yes, maybe no. One thing it was, was news. And a soundbite that will most likely prove to be the downfall of the Donald.

It was news because other actual journalists did actual reports on it. Ramos was an activist. It was news in the same way that the Black Lives Matters people disrupting Bernie Sanders was news. The BLM people are not journalists for doing that either.

And no, I really don't think that soundbite will be the downfall of the Donald. People are already pretty much for him or against him, and those for him are not going to be deterred by this. If anything this makes him look good, dealing with a disruptive heckler, the same way Obama looked good to liberals (actually most of us) when Trump was dogging him about his birth certificate.

 

[AthenaAwakened]

how come he doesn't?

For the same reason a school kid doesn't have a right to yell out at a teacher while the teacher has called on another student. For the same reason you don't get to run out on the field during a baseball game or run up on the stage during a concert. Ramos was rightly thrown out.

And what reason is that, exactly? Where is it legally forbidden for an adult reporter to yell questions at an adult political candidate giving a press conference? How is freedom of speech and freedom of the press nullified and those right taken away from Ramos?

maybe yes, maybe no. One thing it was, was news. And a soundbite that will most likely prove to be the downfall of the Donald.

It was news because other actual journalists did actual reports on it.

If was news because it involved the Donald.

Ramos was an activist.

So? The two things are not mutually exclusive. There has been a confusion made about objectivity and a sort of blinding and binding neutrality. those two things are not the same.

It was news in the same way that the Black Lives Matters people disrupting Bernie Sanders was news. The BLM people are not journalists for doing that either.

Did anyone, including the BLM activist ever claim to be journalists? If not, then why say anything about it?

And no, I really don't think that soundbite will be the downfall of the Donald. People are already pretty much for him or against him, and those for him are not going to be deterred by this. If anything this makes him look good, dealing with a disruptive heckler, the same way Obama looked good to liberals (actually most of us) when Trump was dogging him about his birth certificate.

The powers that be within the republican party are not about to have the fast growing demographic in the country for the next 3, 4, or 5 presidential election cycles paint the GOP as the party that sends people back to Mexi..., I mean, Univision.

I would not surprised if soon the Donald were to be discovered with the figurative if not literal equivalent of a dead woman, a live boy, and a trunk full of fetal body parts.

 

[Jolly_Penguin]

For the same reason a school kid doesn't have a right to yell out at a teacher while the teacher has called on another student. For the same reason you don't get to run out on the field during a baseball game or run up on the stage during a concert. Ramos was rightly thrown out.

And what reason is that, exactly? Where is it legally forbidden for an adult reporter to yell questions at an adult political candidate giving a press conference? How is freedom of speech and freedom of the press nullified and those right taken away from Ramos?

He wasn't arrested for it. He was thrown out. And rightly so.

Did anyone, including the BLM activist ever claim to be journalists? If not, then why say anything about it?

Read the thread title and the OP. This is about whether Ramos was doing "journalism". He was actually doing no different than the BLM people. Neither is journalism. I was using them as a comparison.

 

[AthenaAwakened]

And what reason is that, exactly? Where is it legally forbidden for an adult reporter to yell questions at an adult political candidate giving a press conference? How is freedom of speech and freedom of the press nullified and those right taken away from Ramos?

He wasn't arrested for it. He was thrown out. And rightly so.

And this answers which questions above?

Did anyone, including the BLM activists ever claim to be journalists? If not, then why say anything about it?

Read the thread title and the OP. This is about whether Ramos was doing "journalism". He was actually doing no different than the BLM people. Neither is journalism. I was using them as a comparison.

How is there be a comparison when one act was never labeled journalism, but was always seen as a disruption, by everyone including the protesters involved?

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Exactly.

Ramos had all the right to ask questions to Trump.

He has a right ask. Trump ins't obligated to answer. And Ramos doesn't have the right to disrupt Trump's event and talk over other reporters.

Ramos had his story when he was shut down and could have rightly reported that Trump refused to answer the question he'd asked and explain himself. Trump is not obligated to explain himself. The public has every right to take his refusal to into consideration when deciding whether to vote for Trump.

Ramos should have written a scathing article on Trump. That would be journalism. Disrupting an event isn't.

I'm glad to see someone gets it!

 

[Jolly_Penguin]

How is there be a comparison when one act was never labeled journalism, but was always seen as a disruption, by everyone including the protesters involved?

Because the other is really no different. Only difference is the guy was claiming to be doing "journalism". He's wasn't actually doing journalism anymore than the protesters were.

 

[untermensche]

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