Republican Senators, worse than Snowflakes, squash free speech

[Jimmy Higgins]

What should have happened:

Warren: Quote, "Mr. Sessions’s conduct as U.S attorney from his politically motivated voting fraud prosecutions to his indifference toward criminal violations of civil rights laws indicates that he lacks the temperament, fairness and judgment to be..."
McConnell: I move that the Senator be striken from being able to speak for besmirching the...
Warren: But I was talking about Shaft.
McConnell: I can dig it.

 

[KeepTalking]

What does Anarcho-capitalist mean?

Anarcho-capitalist

I think that might have been a leading question designed to lead us to the conclusion that some Anarchists can be described as right-wing. While that is true, Anarchism is generally accepted as being a left-wing ideology, and most Anarchists will fit that mold. We would need to see specific information that the Anarchists in question are actually Anarcho-capitalist to move from the general case. Also, I will note that Anarcho-capitalist is very closely related to Libertarianism, and Libertarians aren't particularly know for being radicals or agitators.

 

[LordKiran]

Anarcho-capitalist

I think that might have been a leading question designed to lead us to the conclusion that some Anarchists can be described as right-wing. While that is true, Anarchism is generally accepted as being a left-wing ideology, and most Anarchists will fit that mold. We would need to see specific information that the Anarchists in question are actually Anarcho-capitalist to move from the general case. Also, I will note that Anarcho-capitalist is very closely related to Libertarianism, and Libertarians aren't particularly know for being radicals or agitators.

I'd argue Anarcho-Capitalists have more in common with Ayn Rand. But really, I don't know why the political leanings of the anarchists actually matters. Neither side officially condones acts of anarchy or destruction of property. Dismal's slimy dishonest attempts to conflate liberalism with these anarchists is just that.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

What does Anarcho-capitalist mean?

it's in the bottom right

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[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

I don't see why there should even be a rule applying to that. If a senator does something wrong, they should be able to be called out on it by anyone at anytime.

There is abso-lutely nothing preventing you from calling a Senator on something outside of formal debate in the Senate.

Try to imagine you are a heavy handed moderator of a website that restricts comments against other members. Are you against free speech?

So if a moderator is being considered for promotion and all other moderators get to comment on it, but they can't because the rules don't allow it, you're okay with Fascism.

 

[untermensche]

...I hold no special reverence for Anarchism....

What do you know about it?

Anarchism is not anarchy.

And very few, if any, Anarchists promote violence to disrupt speakers.

But right-wing radicals do it all the time.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

Wow. Needs to be amended; "except during a hearing for appointment, confirmation or wrongdoing."

Perhaps more generally if the senator is a the subject of the debate or even an ancillary topic to the subject...

Also, i think McConnell may be taking the rule out of context.

 

[Axulus]

Who could have ever guessed the Senate had rules and decorum and stuff?

I have a good mind to show up there and tell them they can't have their rules and decorum and stuff using my free speech rights.

Yes, the Senate floor needs to be a safe space. Don't want to let anyone in the chamber be offended.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

While I don't like Clinton that much, I can't wait for 4 years when she is President. Imagine all the Republican snowflakes crying and showing so much hypocrisy when she nominates ONLY Senators for cabinet picks.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

No left-wing activists engaged in violence. That is a right-wing alt-fact from their alternate universe.

There was violence but not from any left-wing activists. Most likely by right-wing agitators.

I thought the most likely explanation is that the protest was infiltrated by anarchists. What are anarchists if they are not left-wing agitators? The violence may not have been from the original left-wing protesters, but I think it is still accurate to assign the violence to left-wing activists, if the violence was indeed perpetrated by anarchists.

And why is the world magically divided into left and right? Left is left, right is right, anarchist is anarchist.

If anything, the anarchist protesters seem to help the right so where does that suggest they really are?

 

[Arctish]

Not really on topic for this thread but just wondering: how do you get 100-150 anarchists to show up at the same time/same place wearing the same outfits? Doesn't that sort of conformity goes against the whole anarchist thing?

 

[faded_Glory]

It's like Harley bikers - they pride themselves on their rugged individuality, which they express by slavishly outfitting themselves and their bikes with all the corporate stuff from the H-D aftermarket catalogue.

See also: Yes, we are all individuals!

 

[Tom Sawyer]

Not really on topic for this thread but just wondering: how do you get 100-150 anarchists to show up at the same time/same place wearing the same outfits? Doesn't that sort of conformity goes against the whole anarchist thing?

Ya, when you think about it, organizing anarchists should really be more like herding cats than anything else.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Not really on topic for this thread but just wondering: how do you get 100-150 anarchists to show up at the same time/same place wearing the same outfits? Doesn't that sort of conformity goes against the whole anarchist thing?

Ya, when you think about it, organizing anarchists should really be more like herding cats than anything else.

What are you talking about? They always show up at G8 meetings to protest.

 

[dismal]

There is abso-lutely nothing preventing you from calling a Senator on something outside of formal debate in the Senate.

Try to imagine you are a heavy handed moderator of a website that restricts comments against other members. Are you against free speech?

So if a moderator is being considered for promotion and all other moderators get to comment on it, but they can't because the rules don't allow it, you're okay with Fascism.

Sorry, I'm not allowed to comment on moderation.

 

[Elixir]

So if a moderator is being considered for promotion and all other moderators get to comment on it, but they can't because the rules don't allow it, you're okay with Fascism.

Sorry, I'm not allowed to comment on moderation.

You just did. In fact, you brought it up.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Sorry, I'm not allowed to comment on moderation.

You just did. In fact, you brought it up.

Everything is good as long as it is in moderation.

 

[dismal]

Sorry, I'm not allowed to comment on moderation.

You just did. In fact, you brought it up.

I brought up a hypothetical situation.

Don Don called the moderators of this forum fascists.

I would point out the rule in question, but I'm not allowed to discuss the rules.

 

[KeepTalking]

...I hold no special reverence for Anarchism....

What do you know about it?

Enough to know that I hold no special reverence for it, just like I hold no special reverence for any political ideology.

Anarchism is not anarchy.

Of course it isn't. One is a political ideology, the other is a state of a society that results from the establishment of that ideology as the governing factor in a society.

And very few, if any, Anarchists promote violence to disrupt speakers.

Is this the No True Anarchist argument? I don't find that very compelling.

But right-wing radicals do it all the time.

So do radicals of any stripe, including left-wing radical anarchists, that's kind of what makes them radicals.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

And very few, if any, Anarchists promote violence to disrupt speakers.

Is this the No True Anarchist argument? I don't find that very compelling.

Beat me to the punch.

I ponder how many of these people are better called "hooligans" than Anarchists. Anarchists are dumb though, so I have little regard for their existence in a political discussion.