A Twitter blue check mark who co-founded Portland Resistance, and was arrested under suspicion of strangling and kidnapping an ex-girlfriend.
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A Twitter blue check mark who co-founded Portland Resistance, and was arrested under suspicion of strangling and kidnapping an ex-girlfriend.
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So, a nobody then.
I notice you failed to mention the charges were dismissed and his record expunged.
laughing dog
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Has anyone determined whether Rittenhouse's attorney is a shyster yet?
Yes, it's true I was silent on that point.
SLD
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The video allegedly showing Rittenhouse pointing his rifle at Zaminski. Per someone’s request above. Feel free to slow it down. View at your leisure.
Swammerdami
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Guilty or not, Kyle is now his family's bread-winner:
Derec
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So did Grosskreutz, but he is not being admonished for that. Quite the contrary, he is being called a "hero", even by the prosecutor.
Simply bringing a weapon does not in itself imply any intent to engage in violence.
It is also funny how in 2020, the Left loved it when heavily armed black militias like NFAC were marching around.
The fact is that he was attacked and defended himself.
Derec
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A #BLM activist and Democratic operative (he worked on Bernie's campaign as well as that of some other candidates).
Derec
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Far more people were maimed and murdered during #BLM/Antifa rioting, even if we limit ourselves to 2020 alone. In Atlanta for example, an 8 year old girl was murdered in the "Rayshard Brooks Autonomous Zone" that was occupied by #BLM rabble after drunk driver Rayshard Brooks was shot after attacking police officers, stealing a taser and firing it at them.
Don2 (Don1 Revised)
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It doesn't seem like these things are equivalent. Grosskreuz brought a weapon for self-defense not with an intent to shoot looters and others. Grosskreuz kept the weapon concealed until he thought it was needed, too. KR, on the other hand, said he wanted to shoot people who were looting and was running around with a weapon out in the open. Then, in the final moments when Grosskreutz had a gun out in the open, he thought about using and gave a benefit of a doubt valuing human life.
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Elixir
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Yeah I guess that's just as bad (qualitatively) as killing one cop, causing several others to subsequently commit suicide and maiming another 140 cops while causing 30+ million in PROPERTY DAMAGE. Of course that's if you ignore the scale... but that's not the worst of it.
No BLM rally, no antifa demonstration, NO protest EVER has constituted an direct attack on our Constitution, aka, a COUP ATTEMPT against the United States of America. Not until 1/6/2021 that is. But somehow, you conservotards can't seem to wrap what's left of your brains around the fact that the orange menace is a TRAITOR, those who follow him are insurrectionists and they are collectively (with much help from Putin, Xi, Duterte, and the rest of the Authoritarian Community) heading this Country down a path to totalitarianism.
My parents are rolling over in their graves, after fighting to preserve American democracy in three wars. I'm glad they didn't live to see the callous punks of right wing extremism dominating their former Party, with both tacit and active support from self procvlaimed "centrist" dullards who don't care enough to think about whether human life is truly worth less than their precious "property", and lack the character judgment to know and condemn a lifelong career criminal conman when he tells them what he knows they want to hear.
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They can and do wrap their heads around it... Then salivate at the idea that there might be a disequilibrium big enough for their fascist wet dreams to come true.
Jimmy Higgins
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Why is #BLM blamed for the acts of people not affiliated with it? (that was rhetorical)
Goons and thugs were responsible for the rioting and destruction at night. The decentralized #BLM was responsible for the protests during the day that didn't result in much of any damage. While there was likely some overlap, it is literally day and night between protests / riots.
Elixir
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I wonder if they all see themselves as The Ruler in the totalitarian scenario of their wet dreams. Because if/when the time comes and some trumpish tinpot dictator gets hold of this Country, each one of them is going to be either slave to the State, or among The Privileged Few.
The vast majority of them are going to be very unhappy and dismayed with the lot assigned to them when they find out that the privileged few are in fact ... very very very few. The fact that The Few are all white, won't make all whites part of The Few.
Elixir
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That's true whether or not Derec and his ilk recognize the fact. The right wing regularly tries to infiltrate legitimate protests, incite violence and perpetrate it themselves if nothing else works, in order to discredit liberal efforts to effect democracy or enhance equality.
That's why I think the left needs to start "policing" right wing demonstrations and rallies with perfectly legal ranks of Patriots armed with assault weapons. Then it's just a matter of waiting for one or more of them to "feel threatened", and let the rest take its deadly (but perfectly legal, thanks to Republican legislators) course.
Let's get it over with!
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Nor that the privileged few are... The people who are already privileged and few and who are still not them. There will just be fewer of them and they will have more privilege.
marc
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Some people act like BLM is a tide of violence, when in reality 93% of BLM protests have been peaceful. Of ones where there was violence or vandalism, a number of them involve criminals who are not part of the protests taking advantage of them, racists trying to discredit the protests, and cops initiating the violence. At least one death of a bystander at a protest was later found to had been shot by a cop.
Jimmy Higgins
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Yeah, Derec always seems to gloss over alt-right white people starting fires in Ohio and Tennessee. Of course, violent rioting and destruction in inner cities was largely outside the realm of the alt-right, but there was definitely alt-right involvement with damages caused, some parts larger scale, during the protests.
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I watched the closings and thought both sides were mediocre. Binger was very organized and had nice slides, but he was very dry and gave too many obnoxious swipes at KR, like mocking him for helping someone with a sprained ankle, while minimizing the crimes of his victims. Richards had better delivery and used the videos and photos effectively, but he went way overboard with sniping at Binger. He was objecting too much during Binger's time too. And then the second prosecutor Krauss in rebuttal, sniped right back in kind. They made it way too personal as though it's all about them. Unimpressed with these efforts, Wisconsin did not send their best.
The lowlight was by Richards though, when he made a comparison to the Jacob Blake shooting, saying KR only shot JR 4 times, and it has already been decided that 7 shots is okay. WTF, that's not much different than the Blake joke that got a juror dismissed.
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Oh, and the correct verdict is guilty on all but the charges on AH and GG.
The lowlight was by Richards though, when he made a comparison to the Jacob Blake shooting, saying KR only shot JR 4 times, and it has already been decided that 7 shots is okay. WTF, that's not much different than the Blake joke that got a juror dismissed.
Attorney compares Rittenhouse shootings to Blake shooting
KENOSHA, Wis. (AP) — The man whose shooting by a Wisconsin police officer set off the street protests in Kenosha was rarely mentioned at Kyle Rittenhouse's trial, but Jacob Blake turned up in Monday's closing arguments.
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Oh, and the correct verdict is guilty on all but the charges on AH and GG.
Elixir
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… among many other things.
But he (says he) didn’t vote for Cheato, so we must accept him as a liberal minded centrist (who defends or endorses every heinous, murderous act of right wingers and disparages “lib’ruls” for every imagined overstep of political correctness).
Surely hypocrisy knows no higher calling.