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Rod Rosenstein Suggested Recording Trump And Invoking 25th Amendment: Report

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Is this guy a patriot or is he a lying sack of shit member of the deep state?

https://www.aol.com/article/news/20...record-his-conversations-with-trump/23535404/

To my point of view, Rod Rosenstein is obviously a member of the deep state, somehow able to out lie Trump (and that takes some doing).

I have never had any relationship with Russia in my life. Never known any Russians, nor ever had any conversations with any of them. Yet I would honestly say, that if I was POTUS and Rod Rosenstein was working for me and/or in charge of a Russia panel to remove myself from office; I would be attempting to get rid of him in any manner I could. The guy obviously has no honor what so ever. He is a proven lair as well.

So my question for Loren (and others who are Trump haters). Why is it so unreasonable for Trump to want to put down this fake Russia probe? It is obviously simply a ploy to illegally remove him as president. And why would you believe it is so irrational for any sitting president to want such an investigation brought down? To me, it is simply rational behavior for anyone including Trump. Because even if you hate Trump, this investigation is simply there for a soft coup of the president.

If this isn't the definition of tyranny, I don't know what is.
 
Da fuck?

One could respond, but my table has been pissing me off lately and I feel it would be more productive to yell at that.
 
So my question for Loren (and others who are Trump haters). Why is it so unreasonable for Trump to want to put down this fake Russia probe? It is obviously simply a ploy to illegally remove him as president.

Because it is NOT fake - all those guilty please say so. Plus trumpo is clinically insane, a violent, cowardly misogynist, and not a real president - he didn't even win the popular vote. He's a bad politician, a terrible "leader", has no idea about trade or foreign policy and he has the IQ of a small soap dish.

There is no "deep state", that's just another propaganda talking point from the deranged right, which now apparently includes you.

Rosenstein is a patriot.
 
...if I was POTUS and Rod Rosenstein was working for me and/or in charge of a Russia panel to remove myself from office; I would be attempting to get rid of him in any manner I could.

I'm sure you would, especially if you were a corrupt, kompromatted, money-grubbing, self-dealing conman who got elected by accepting help from a despot who was intent on destroying American democracy. Like Trump is.

Other than the fact that Rosenstein is trying to get at the truth about Trump and his foreign "supporters", what makes you think he's a "member" of some Deep State? I don't think you'd be singing that tune if it was say, Obama who was evidently conspiring with Russians to seize and maintain power over the US that he was investigating.

I have never had any relationship with Russia in my life. Never known any Russians, nor ever had any conversations with any of them.

...which makes you almost as well qualified as Cheato to declare that an investigation (which has already indicted, convicted and jailed people involved) into Russian activities, is a witch hunt. Lotta witches all around President Fuckface, wouldn't you say?

FWIW, I'd say that tyranny would be better defined by action such as kidnapping thousands of children, neglecting thousands of citizens, leaving them to die in the aftermath of natural disaster, militarizing every aspect of society from demonstrations to classrooms, persecuting people for their ethnicity etc..
Investigating a traitor for treason is hardly tyrannical. But that was a real good troll, Vonse.
 
...if I was POTUS and Rod Rosenstein was working for me and/or in charge of a Russia panel to remove myself from office; I would be attempting to get rid of him in any manner I could.

I'm sure you would, especially if you were a corrupt, kompromatted, money-grubbing, self-dealing conman who got elected by accepting help from a despot who was intent on destroying American democracy. Like Trump is.

Other than the fact that Rosenstein is trying to get at the truth about Trump and his foreign "supporters", what makes you think he's a "member" of some Deep State? I don't think you'd be singing that tune if it was say, Obama who was evidently conspiring with Russians to seize and maintain power over the US that he was investigating.

I have never had any relationship with Russia in my life. Never known any Russians, nor ever had any conversations with any of them.

...which makes you almost as well qualified as Cheato to declare that an investigation (which has already indicted, convicted and jailed people involved) into Russian activities, is a witch hunt. Lotta witches all around President Fuckface, wouldn't you say?

FWIW, I'd say that tyranny would be better defined by action such as kidnapping thousands of children, neglecting thousands of citizens, leaving them to die in the aftermath of natural disaster, militarizing every aspect of society from demonstrations to classrooms, persecuting people for their ethnicity etc..
Investigating a traitor for treason is hardly tyrannical. But that was a real good troll, Vonse.

1. I voted for both Obama and Trump. And very glad that they both won.

2. I get that Trump haters think Trump is the worse thing that could have ever happened to this country. I know because I sort of felt that way when Bush 2 got elected. But do you really want a shadow lying government who's purpose is to decide who is worthy to serve as president? Because if that is the case, why do we even bother to pretend to vote if people like Rosenstein are there to decide who is to be our president?

3. Can you guys possibly separate the people involved by what the structure of government that is supposed to be in place? Small things like rule of law for example. Is this really how a representative republic is supposed to function? Because to me it looks more like a shadow government that secretly runs everything.
 
do you really want a shadow lying government who's purpose is to decide who is worthy to serve as president?

What have you been smoking that makes you think there's a "shadow lying government" in place? Whatever it is, keep it away from me!

Is this really how a representative republic is supposed to function?

Nope, it's been gerrymandered nearly to death, bought and sold by billionaires operating under the permission of Citizens United, and completely perverted by the orange clown in the White House, who is quite obviously a tool of Vladimir Putin. (Just what you wanted when you voted for him?) The "rule of law" would have long since removed the son of a bitch chain migrated immigrant.
A REAL representative republic would remove a leader who has 30-something percent approval.
 
I'm sure you would, especially if you were a corrupt, kompromatted, money-grubbing, self-dealing conman who got elected by accepting help from a despot who was intent on destroying American democracy. Like Trump is.

Other than the fact that Rosenstein is trying to get at the truth about Trump and his foreign "supporters", what makes you think he's a "member" of some Deep State? I don't think you'd be singing that tune if it was say, Obama who was evidently conspiring with Russians to seize and maintain power over the US that he was investigating.



...which makes you almost as well qualified as Cheato to declare that an investigation (which has already indicted, convicted and jailed people involved) into Russian activities, is a witch hunt. Lotta witches all around President Fuckface, wouldn't you say?

FWIW, I'd say that tyranny would be better defined by action such as kidnapping thousands of children, neglecting thousands of citizens, leaving them to die in the aftermath of natural disaster, militarizing every aspect of society from demonstrations to classrooms, persecuting people for their ethnicity etc..
Investigating a traitor for treason is hardly tyrannical. But that was a real good troll, Vonse.

1. I voted for both Obama and Trump. And very glad that they both won.

2. I get that Trump haters think Trump is the worse thing that could have ever happened to this country. I know because I sort of felt that way when Bush 2 got elected. But do you really want a shadow lying government who's purpose is to decide who is worthy to serve as president? Because if that is the case, why do we even bother to pretend to vote if people like Rosenstein are there to decide who is to be our president?

3. Can you guys possibly separate the people involved by what the structure of government that is supposed to be in place? Small things like rule of law for example. Is this really how a representative republic is supposed to function? Because to me it looks more like a shadow government that secretly runs everything.

•he nominated someone who is a perjurer-rapist with deep vulnerability to foreign influence
•he gleefully admitted to sexually assaulting women
•the trump tower meeting is fact. Several people have already pled guilty, some for specifically acting as unreported agents of a foreign power
•thousands of children have gone missing as a direct result of his policies, to disappear into some (probably sexual) slave farm
•he has purposely dismantled environmental protections, the department of education, And the FCC.
•he has a longstanding history of connection to organized crime and money laundering
•he has a longstanding history of shirking his financial responsibilities via malicious/frivolous litigation
•he has used bankruptcy so many times it might as well be his middle name
•he does not understand tariffs, trade negotiations, or damn near anything else
•he has personally and recently said he wants to bring aesbwstos back because he doesn't think it is a major health risk
•he violated campaign finance laws to commit bribery during his run for president, according to sworn testimony by an accomplice

And these are just the things I can think of on the bus.

Edit: not to mention the fact that Washington leaks like a rusty canoe. If there was a "shadow government" we would already know because humans suck ass at maintaining conspiracy, especially in an oppositional environment like Washington (or any government for that matter). Whenever a truest large, well-heeled conspiracy has ever been turned up, it has been something like Operation Snow White, where an outside actor was trying to attack, rather than any of the standard players; and let's not forget OSW was perpetrated by a cult that openly brainwashes and blackmails their members to maintain compliance--and even that operation was compromised.

If you see conspiracies in the world like new world orders or shadow governments as a citizen not even involved in said government, you need to find a reliable psychiatrist and get some anti-psychotics, end of story.
 
I'm sure you would, especially if you were a corrupt, kompromatted, money-grubbing, self-dealing conman who got elected by accepting help from a despot who was intent on destroying American democracy. Like Trump is.

Other than the fact that Rosenstein is trying to get at the truth about Trump and his foreign "supporters", what makes you think he's a "member" of some Deep State? I don't think you'd be singing that tune if it was say, Obama who was evidently conspiring with Russians to seize and maintain power over the US that he was investigating.



...which makes you almost as well qualified as Cheato to declare that an investigation (which has already indicted, convicted and jailed people involved) into Russian activities, is a witch hunt. Lotta witches all around President Fuckface, wouldn't you say?

FWIW, I'd say that tyranny would be better defined by action such as kidnapping thousands of children, neglecting thousands of citizens, leaving them to die in the aftermath of natural disaster, militarizing every aspect of society from demonstrations to classrooms, persecuting people for their ethnicity etc..
Investigating a traitor for treason is hardly tyrannical. But that was a real good troll, Vonse.

1. I voted for both Obama and Trump. And very glad that they both won.

2. I get that Trump haters think Trump is the worse thing that could have ever happened to this country. I know because I sort of felt that way when Bush 2 got elected. But do you really want a shadow lying government who's purpose is to decide who is worthy to serve as president? Because if that is the case, why do we even bother to pretend to vote if people like Rosenstein are there to decide who is to be our president?

3. Can you guys possibly separate the people involved by what the structure of government that is supposed to be in place? Small things like rule of law for example. Is this really how a representative republic is supposed to function? Because to me it looks more like a shadow government that secretly runs everything.

Russia is the shadow government. And you voted for it.

It's time for you to stop doubling down on your mistake and separate youself from President Twitler McCrazyPants.
 
To my point of view, Rod Rosenstein is obviously a member of the deep state

There is no such thing as the "deep state." One is rapidly being formed, of course, in response to Trumputin and due almost exclusively to all of the deliberately self-fulfilling bullshit about a "deep state" that has been carefully crafted over the years and triggered now for precisely this kind of situation, but that's a different matter.

Let me qualify this. There has ALWAYS been a "deep state" shadow government in a disorganized, lazy sense of that term, meaning the men behind the throne; those in various positions of power and in various delusions of power. But it's ludicrous to call that a thing like it's in any way effective in the sense you mean. It's never been focused or unified; always a crapshoot of corruption that leans one way (toward the rich), but on par it's a fevered boogeyman.

Republicans (aka, the sociopathic rich) are the only state that exists and everyone else is trying to stop them from skullfucking the world. That is the only state there has ever existed for thousands of years. Petty little limpdicked powermongers and their pathetic amoral sycophants and then everyone else trying to stop them from fucking us all in the ass.

What's going on now is that Trump came in a criminal thinking he's a mob boss and not understanding that he's got tiny tiny hands in a land of huge fucking hands. He's being served his just dessert and if he doesn't OD on whatever the fuck barbiturates he's clearly power-chugging every morning, he'll resign the second he can't weasel his way any further.

He is a massive coward who has just never had to actually take responsibility for anything he's ever done. Until now. And he can't believe--but is being forced to believe--that he finally got caught and Daddy isn't around to bail him out.
 
I can't believe AOL is still a thing. Anyway, from the article, allegedly:

Rosenstein reportedly first raised these ideas in the spring of 2017 after Trump revealed classified intelligence to Russian officials in an Oval Office meeting and fired FBI Director James Comey.

Characterizing the Mueller investigation as "fake" seems difficult in light of the fact that Trump did hand over classified information to the Russians, explicitly said that he fired Comey to stop the Russia investigation, and then of course the slew of indictments, guilty pleas, and convictions that the Special Counsel has already secured. The "witch hunt" is catching witches at a surprising rate. In addition to these successes, he has "flipped" several formerly close confidants of Trump, and is presumably gaining valuable information from them.

Anyone who thinks this is a "fake probe" is not playing with a full deck...and that includes Trump himself.
 
3. Can you guys possibly separate the people involved by what the structure of government that is supposed to be in place? Small things like rule of law for example.
And the rule of law would indicate that the investigation should continue, regardless of the target.
Is this really how a representative republic is supposed to function? Because to me it looks more like a shadow government that secretly runs everything.
If some shadow gov't secretly ran everything, you would not even know about the investigation. And there is nothing stop your hero from firing Rosenstein. And, if Trump is too big a chickenshit to do it himself, there is nothing stopping him from firing Sessions and replacing him with someone who would fire Rosenstein.

Of course, all of that would make Trump look like he has something to hide. If he is truly innocent, then an investigation would show that. If Trump were truly as innocent as he claims, he should be doing everything in his power to help the investigation get done as thoroughly and quickly as possible. If that is Trump's plan, he sure hides it well.
 
Is this guy a patriot or is he a lying sack of shit member of the deep state?

Well... Isn't that a loaded question.
 
It appears that everyone who has to interact with Trump feels the need to have their conversations recorded. Not very reassuring.
 
https://www.aol.com/article/news/20...record-his-conversations-with-trump/23535404/

To my point of view, Rod Rosenstein is obviously a member of the deep state, somehow able to out lie Trump (and that takes some doing).
And don't forget about Papadopoulus who started the whole investigation bragging while drunk about trying to get in touch with the Russians. Or Manafort, who worked for the Russians, and didn't pay his taxes for that work. Oh and that fake Donnie Jr, Kuschner, Manafort meeting with... you got it... THE FUCKING RUSSIANS.

To suggest this investigation has no basis in truth has got to be one of the most head in the sand statements one could make.
 
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