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Well, that's not all I said.
But yeah. Not all sluts are male.
But then, I'm not a feminist.
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Well, that's not all I said.
But yeah. Not all sluts are male.
But then, I'm not a feminist.
Tom
No. Not when your naive belief harms others.
Only when you prevent women from getting birth control and comprehensive sexuality education. But that’s the main thrust of the “anti abortion” mob, isn’t it? They aren’t against abortion. They are happy to have lots of abortions happen, if it means they get to regulate the sexuality of women. Make it as risky as possible. Keep people as “naive” as possible. Make sure those unwanted pregnancies happen. Perpetuate the absurd policy that married women are not allowed to have sex unless they are willing to bear children for doing it without proper birth control or family planning.
We get it Lion. We know this song and dance. It’s the same one that the men trotted out in 1965, and again in 1973 to try to prevent us from having control of our own bodies. (I mean, rreally, it’s the same line they’ve trotted out forever, thinking they can consider us their vessels)
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If an ignorant person can't join the dots between sexual intercourse and unwanted pregnancy, maybe they actually DO need someone smarter to help guide their choices.
1970's LOL
Fifty years of feminist brainwashing and yet, somehow, we still have young wimmin in their hundreds of thousands somehow too foolish to avoid unwanted pregnancy.
Which brings us right back to...
1970's LOL
Fifty years of feminist brainwashing and yet, somehow, we still have young wimmin in their hundreds of thousands somehow too foolish to avoid unwanted pregnancy.
Which brings us right back to...
Every time you decine to donate your kidney, you are failng the fight for defenseless human beings. Every day that you are not on a marrow donor registry, you fail the fight. Every day that you decline to donate blood, you fail the fight. Every day that you walk by a homeless person, you fail the fight for defenseless human beings.
We get you, Lion. It’s only about controlling women who have sex.
We GET it, already.
That’s what you took from my observation of the harm this does to young women?
Wow, that’s cold.
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I'll agree to abortion in the case of rape if you agree to ban elective abortion for non-rape pregnancy. Deal?
Nope. Because you know your disingenuous rape pregnancy cannard is a mere fraction of the hundreds of thousands of birth control convenience lifestyle abortions.
Nope. Because you know your disingenuous rape pregnancy cannard is a mere fraction of the hundreds of thousands of birth control convenience lifestyle abortions.
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OK
I fed a homeless person.
Are you ready to start restricting abortions now?
If I donate a thousand dollars? ten thousand dollars? a hundred thousand dollars? to an orphanage or single mom's shelter, will that give me the right to tell a woman what she can do with her body????
Nope. Your feigned sincerity is a joke.
The supposed right to abortion isn't predicated on ANY of the quid pro quo scenarios you pretend to be concerned about.
I fed a homeless person.
Are you ready to start restricting abortions now?
If I donate a thousand dollars? ten thousand dollars? a hundred thousand dollars? to an orphanage or single mom's shelter, will that give me the right to tell a woman what she can do with her body????
Nope. Your feigned sincerity is a joke.
The supposed right to abortion isn't predicated on ANY of the quid pro quo scenarios you pretend to be concerned about.
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You really ought to be a registered organ donor. It's the Christian thing to do, in the modern world.
But to get back to the point.
The difference between organ donation and pregnancy is Choice.
If you, or my mom or anyone, chose behavior that resulted in catastrophic kidney failure for someone else, and you were the only possible donor,
I wouldn't care about your "personal autonomy". I'd strap you to the gurney myself if need be. You'd "donate" that kidney, regardless of how sorry you were about choosing something that put another human in such dire straits. Personal autonomy ends when you make a choice that involves another party. With freedom comes responsibility.
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No, no, and no. That's illusory -- that ANYTHING would bestow on you the "right" to make a decision for a woman on the limits of her bodily autonomy and reproductive choices. The legislators who claim that right are simply wielding (and abusing) power.
Everyone else, google Paxton Smith, a very gutsy high school senior from Texas. The video is something to see.
You waited two minutes to presume my answer? I was working in the garden. It is more important than you.
But no, that is a false dichotomy. The true if-then is that if you donate your kidney, your bone marrow, and your blood, as well as support the homeless, then I will stop thinking of you as a hypocrite.
You’re the one who says he cares so much about “defenseless human beings,” as if it is an objective moral, yet you don’t act like it.
I, on the other hand, do not consider zygotes to be persons, and so there is no hypocrisy in my support of the decision to terminate a pregnancy prior to the existence of a person with a working brain - the thing that makes them people.
You either don’t get that, or you choose to make a strawman. But I’ll make it clear for you.
- I do not believe that zygotes are human beings. The “being” part requires a functioning brain. A being that has not yet achieved cognition is not a person, and that is a good time to terminate a pregnancy, before the fetus achieves that personhood.
- You believe differently, and you wish to force your beliefs up my vagina.
- Moreover, even once the fetus does achieve personhood, there is no obligation for another person to risk their health for it - whether it is a fetus or a teenager. Most people will, at that point, choose to risk their lives for their offspring, and they have that right. But no one is obliged by law to donate their body.
You can regurgitate all the straw-man stories that your belief indoctrinate you with, and you can choose to never have an abortion yourself, but it is wrong for you to expect others to be beholden to your beliefs, and it is hypocritical of you to call yourself “pro-life” when you clearly do not care about lives, only fetuses.
Another valid test, Lion, is that
IF you fully and completely support comprehensive sexuality education for all kids, AND free and accessible long acting reversible birth control,
THEN I will stop thinking of you as a hypocrite for being against abortions.
But as long as you promulgate policies that increase abortions, I will never believe you are truly against abortions.
You will have shown yourself to be only against women having autonomy about sex.
The difference between what you say and what you do - is what you do.
IF you fully and completely support comprehensive sexuality education for all kids, AND free and accessible long acting reversible birth control,
THEN I will stop thinking of you as a hypocrite for being against abortions.
But as long as you promulgate policies that increase abortions, I will never believe you are truly against abortions.
You will have shown yourself to be only against women having autonomy about sex.
The difference between what you say and what you do - is what you do.
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Question: do some of these anti-abortion crusaders understand that there are reasons for having one that is not ‘after the fact birth control’?
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Great. Now you can force all others to be organ donors.
They do not appear to.
The math on this:
IF they supported full comprehensive sexuality education coupled with free and available long acting reversible birth control,
THEN, after abortions decrease by 88% in 12 weeks, the ONLY abortions remaining would be for medical risk reasons or the desire of a potential parent to not burden their offspring with difficult medical conditions.
The anti-abortionists are demonstrably against reducing abortions by 88% in 12 weeks.
They have demonstrated this with every action they take.
Are you registered to give your organs after you die?
Or are you also registered to give them while alive, and maybe inconvenient.
In other words, have you tested for bone marrow registries? Kidney registries? Do you donate blood every 12 weeks?
I admire all who put the “organ donor” mark on their IDs to donate after death, but a person who is self-proclaimed “pro life” would also be donating the other, more difficult opportunities regularly.
I was trying to figure out what YFW means.
Web search suggests:
Your Face When
You Fucking Whore (LOL, “ Most often used as a written or online term of endearment between girlfriends/gay men.”)
You Fucking Wish
Yes Fucking Way
And
Your Favorite Weapon
Chuckling a bit at what it might have been intended to mean?
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They are making no bones about the fact that their concern has NOTHING TO DO with "protecting the unborn". It is 100% about controlling women's bodies.