RussiaGate

[Gun Nut]

Cohen hopes to provide something "good" to prosecution, hopefully to reduce his already reduced sentence further, by providing further useful information.
That is what he hopes to gain EITHER by lying OR by telling the truth... whatever he thinks will make them think he is being even more helpful... that he thinks he can get away with...

 

[Elixir]

You all should be glad that Trump fired Comey then. After all, after a 9-month investigation by some agents who were dead-set on a mission to find Trump complicit, along with the Steele Dossier at their disposal, and finding nothing, and it being a no-brainer to you all, I have to assume you all would fire Comey too for incompetence at a minimum. Right?

Make shit up - MUCH?
- pretending to know the motives of individual FBI investigators
- pretending to know the mandate of their assignment
- assuming that Steele's work has anything to do with their assignment
- assuming they found nothing
- assuming what everyone else here would have done about Comey

Gee - you're batting 1000! - Or zero, depending on how you look at it.
FWIW though - I'm glad Cheato fired Comey for putting his nose into the "Trump-Russia Thing". We might not have a Special Counsel if not for that bit of STOOPID.

 

[poster]

I love how your persona went from leftist to anti-Russian investigation poster with little thought.

Also, I sure the heck don't want Trump guilty of such a crime. The idea that we have a compromised President should frighten all Americans.

Alt leftists are Mueller investigation denialists. They don't like to focus on anything unrelated to their economic ideology.

Not quite! I'm into civil rights, and I disdain overreach by law enforcement.

Trump's an ass, no doubt, but he is not a Russian anything, except a gluttonous capitalist who wanted to make money off the Russian people. Putin, being a wise politician, was smart enough not to alienate Trump. That's what smart people do.

 

[Elixir]

Cohen hopes to provide something "good" to prosecution

How stupid do you have to be to think Cohen is still holding out on the prosecutors, and plans to wrap up some fact with a bow and present it to them in open session?



If the fact is not supported by evidence, it's useless to the prosecutors. If it IS supported by evidence, the prosecutors already know it.
If he tells a lie, it cannot be supported by evidence, and is therefore useless.
If he tells a lie that can be proven to be a lie, he can end up with much more than a 3 year sentence.

So please - Tell us again - HOW DOES COHEN GAIN BY LYING, AND RISKING GOING AWAY FOR A DECADE OR MORE?

 

[poster]

You all should be glad that Trump fired Comey then. After all, after a 9-month investigation by some agents who were dead-set on a mission to find Trump complicit, along with the Steele Dossier at their disposal, and finding nothing, and it being a no-brainer to you all, I have to assume you all would fire Comey too for incompetence at a minimum. Right?

Make shit up - MUCH?
- pretending to know the motives of individual FBI investigators
- pretending to know the mandate of their assignment
- assuming that Steele's work has anything to do with their assignment
- assuming they found nothing
- assuming what everyone else here would have done about Comey

Gee - you're batting 1000! - Or zero, depending on how you look at it.
FWIW though - I'm glad Cheato fired Comey for putting his nose into the "Trump-Russia Thing". We might not have a Special Counsel if not for that bit of STOOPID.

It's all out there if you look, but you won't get much from the corp media until they want you to know, and that's because they are the PR arm of the intelligence agencies and Pentegon. That piece I linked was way ahead of the NY Times piece that came out just this past Friday.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

You all should be glad that Trump fired Comey then. After all, after a 9-month investigation by some agents who were dead-set on a mission to find Trump complicit, along with the Steele Dossier at their disposal, and finding nothing, and it being a no-brainer to you all, I have to assume you all would fire Comey too for incompetence at a minimum. Right?

You sound familiar... quite a bit like Muhammad Saeed al-Sahhaf.

 

[Elixir]

they want you to know, and that's because they are the PR arm of the intelligence agencies and Pentegon.

BWAHAHAHAHAA ... hold on a second .... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!!!

DEEP STATE CONSPIRACY!! WOOO WOOO!

Sorry, sonny. You have to put up something more than "it's all out there!!!"
Let me ask - WHERE do you "have to look" - under Alex Jones' bed?

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

You all should be glad that Trump fired Comey then. After all, after a 9-month investigation by some agents who were dead-set on a mission to find Trump complicit, along with the Steele Dossier at their disposal, and finding nothing, and it being a no-brainer to you all, I have to assume you all would fire Comey too for incompetence at a minimum. Right?

Make shit up - MUCH?
- pretending to know the motives of individual FBI investigators
- pretending to know the mandate of their assignment
- assuming that Steele's work has anything to do with their assignment
- assuming they found nothing
- assuming what everyone else here would have done about Comey

Gee - you're batting 1000! - Or zero, depending on how you look at it.
FWIW though - I'm glad Cheato fired Comey for putting his nose into the "Trump-Russia Thing". We might not have a Special Counsel if not for that bit of STOOPID.

It's all out there if you look, but you won't get much from the corp media until they want you to know, and that's because they are the PR arm of the intelligence agencies and Pentegon. That piece I linked was way ahead of the NY Times piece that came out just this past Friday.

Yes, so the guy who was Trump's Campaign Manager and met with Russians (along with Trump's son and son-in-law) with Russia Government links at Trump Tower regarding getting help from the Russians against Clinton, and also ended up giving internal campaign data to a Russian Intel guy...

... just a vast corporate conspiracy suggesting conspiracy amongst the Trump campaign and the Russians.

As an FYI, Donald Trump Jr leaked the email proving the intent of the secret Trump Tower meeting and Manafort's lawyers accidentally leaked the document indicating the transfer of the campaign intel. Neither Jr nor Manafort's lawyers can be considered to be part of the corporate media.

 

[Elixir]

It's all out there if you look, but you won't get much from the corp media until they want you to know, and that's because they are the PR arm of the intelligence agencies and Pentegon. That piece I linked was way ahead of the NY Times piece that came out just this past Friday.

Yes, so the guy who was Trump's Campaign Manager and met with Russians (along with Trump's son and son-in-law) with Russia Government links at Trump Tower regarding getting help from the Russians against Clinton, and also ended up giving internal campaign data to a Russian Intel guy...

... just a vast corporate conspiracy suggesting conspiracy amongst the Trump campaign and the Russians.

Yabut, THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY! and THE PENTAGON!!!

I remember when those were the institutions upon which US Presidents most relied. All of them. Except Nixon in his final 2 years...
Apparently the pentagon and the intelligence community went rogue (all 950,000 employees), or - no, wait... is it possible... just barely possible... that THIS PRESIDENT is the one who went rogue?
Nah... it's gotta be the DERP STATE.

 

[Koyaanisqatsi]

he is not a Russian anything

Even the evidence we are privy to strongly suggests otherwise, but so long as you say so, I guess that's all that is needed. Thanks. I'm glad that's put to rest.

 

[Worldtraveller]

It's all out there if you look, but you won't get much from the corp media until they want you to know, and that's because they are the PR arm of the intelligence agencies and Pentegon. That piece I linked was way ahead of the NY Times piece that came out just this past Friday.

Yes, so the guy who was Trump's Campaign Manager and met with Russians (along with Trump's son and son-in-law) with Russia Government links at Trump Tower regarding getting help from the Russians against Clinton, and also ended up giving internal campaign data to a Russian Intel guy...

... just a vast corporate conspiracy suggesting conspiracy amongst the Trump campaign and the Russians.

As an FYI, Donald Trump Jr leaked the email proving the intent of the secret Trump Tower meeting and Manafort's lawyers accidentally leaked the document indicating the transfer of the campaign intel. Neither Jr nor Manafort's lawyers can be considered to be part of the corporate media.

Somehow, it's all Hillary Clinton's fault.

 

[poster]

It's all out there if you look, but you won't get much from the corp media until they want you to know, and that's because they are the PR arm of the intelligence agencies and Pentegon. That piece I linked was way ahead of the NY Times piece that came out just this past Friday.

Yes, so the guy who was Trump's Campaign Manager and met with Russians (along with Trump's son and son-in-law) with Russia Government links at Trump Tower regarding getting help from the Russians against Clinton, and also ended up giving internal campaign data to a Russian Intel guy...

... just a vast corporate conspiracy suggesting conspiracy amongst the Trump campaign and the Russians.

You're believing a certain narrative, not the actual events as they occurred. That narrative is dictated by Democrats as well as other establishment people. Trump is an actual outsider, not an insider who ran as an outsider. These people do not like it when uninvited guests walk their turff.

Trump, on one hand, deserves what's happening to him for his despicable behavior during the Obama presidency, but civil right's lines have been crossed by intelligence, and no American should be supportive of that. Law enforcement has enormous power that they should use very judiciously.

Struyk (or whatever his name is) told Page that "we' will not let him become president when she said she had concerns about that. That is what the FBI set out to do. Remember, Comey stated that they were convinced that they were operating under the assumption of a Clinton presidency when he reopened the email thing just prior to election. They thought she was so far ahead (as Koy has stated time and time again that she was) that there was no way to sabotague her. They were right, she won the popular vote by a wide margin. The problem was that Clinton herself had made the same assumption and negleted to campaign in the end in the states that decided the election.

Fuck ups, all around.

But now it's all coming apart, and I for one am happy to see the deceit of the intelligence agencies exposed. You should be pleased about that too. There's way too much secrecy in our government.

 

[ZiprHead]

You all should be glad that Trump fired Comey then. After all, after a 9-month investigation by some agents who were dead-set on a mission to find Trump complicit, along with the Steele Dossier at their disposal, and finding nothing, and it being a no-brainer to you all, I have to assume you all would fire Comey too for incompetence at a minimum. Right?

Make shit up - MUCH?
- pretending to know the motives of individual FBI investigators
- pretending to know the mandate of their assignment
- assuming that Steele's work has anything to do with their assignment
- assuming they found nothing
- assuming what everyone else here would have done about Comey

Gee - you're batting 1000! - Or zero, depending on how you look at it.
FWIW though - I'm glad Cheato fired Comey for putting his nose into the "Trump-Russia Thing". We might not have a Special Counsel if not for that bit of STOOPID.

It's all out there if you look, but you won't get much from the corp media until they want you to know, and that's because they are the PR arm of the intelligence agencies and Pentegon. That piece I linked was way ahead of the NY Times piece that came out just this past Friday.

Are you talking about the Consortium News piece? You do know Consortium News used to be Conservative News, don't you?

 

[Elixir]

It's all out there if you look, but you won't get much from the corp media until they want you to know, and that's because they are the PR arm of the intelligence agencies and Pentegon. That piece I linked was way ahead of the NY Times piece that came out just this past Friday.

Yes, so the guy who was Trump's Campaign Manager and met with Russians (along with Trump's son and son-in-law) with Russia Government links at Trump Tower regarding getting help from the Russians against Clinton, and also ended up giving internal campaign data to a Russian Intel guy...

... just a vast corporate conspiracy suggesting conspiracy amongst the Trump campaign and the Russians.

You're believing a certain narrative, not the actual events as they occurred.

Which of THESE Eighteen FACTS is not a fact?
What's YOUR narrative, poster? And what's it based on other than the idiotic "DERP STATE CONSPIRACY!!!"?

That narrative is dictated by Democrats as well as other establishment people.

Yeah - investigators, flippers, facts, Cheato himself... and again WHAT is YOUR narrative based on? A stupid conspiracy theory.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

It's all out there if you look, but you won't get much from the corp media until they want you to know, and that's because they are the PR arm of the intelligence agencies and Pentegon. That piece I linked was way ahead of the NY Times piece that came out just this past Friday.

Yes, so the guy who was Trump's Campaign Manager and met with Russians (along with Trump's son and son-in-law) with Russia Government links at Trump Tower regarding getting help from the Russians against Clinton, and also ended up giving internal campaign data to a Russian Intel guy...

... just a vast corporate conspiracy suggesting conspiracy amongst the Trump campaign and the Russians.

You're believing a certain narrative, not the actual events as they occurred.

The email indicated help against Clinton. Manafort's lawyers accidentally leaked that Manafort provided a Russian Intel guy with the internals for the Trump campaign.

That narrative is dictated by Democrats as well as other establishment people. Trump is an actual outsider, not an insider who ran as an outsider. These people do not like it when uninvited guests walk their turff.

Narrative? You mean evidence, right?

Trump, on one hand, deserves what's happening to him for his despicable behavior during the Obama presidency, but civil right's lines have been crossed by intelligence, and no American should be supportive of that. Law enforcement has enormous power that they should use very judiciously.

Oh... new orders from above I see. Now you are going with a Civil Rights angle... instead of leaving the thread as you suggested you would.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

It's all out there if you look, but you won't get much from the corp media until they want you to know, and that's because they are the PR arm of the intelligence agencies and Pentegon. That piece I linked was way ahead of the NY Times piece that came out just this past Friday.

Are you talking about the Consortium News piece? You do know Consortium News used to be Conservative News, don't you?

Naw... they are just using a different script. They tried to pretend they are liberal, so they'd gain the trust of liberals and then go on about how they are reasonable, but had issues with the investigation of Trump.

Now, they have changed tactics and are libertarians and feel Trump's rights have been violated.

I can't wait for the next change in tactics from poster.

 

[poster]

Boy, you guys are in deep. Oh well!

 

[Elixir]

Boy, you guys are in deep. Oh well!

Not so much as even a lame attempt to discredit any one of the eighteen FACTS presented. And zero facts presented to bolster your narrative.
Cogent commentary, from one who is in DERP!

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Boy, you guys are in deep. Oh well!

Oh well indeed. We'll just have to assume you are right and Ukrainian oligarchs just love paying millions for useless information.

 

[Elixir]

Boy, you guys are in deep. Oh well!

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