Serena Williams controversy

[ruby sparks]

So you admit there is a difference. Most of the men players in these youtubes have short outbursts then after official explains them they realize they were wrong. Here we have Serena doubling down after each episode, this is what is called being hysterical, she simply does not listen and all your good explanations have an opposite effect - make it worse.

I genuinely have no idea what difference you are on about or how it relates to whatever your point is, and factually, the video clips here (John McEnroe having extended tantrums for example) do not show men doing what you say. Nor am I even sure that Serena Williams cried during the match. Not that I'm clear what your point about that would be in any case if she had.

 

[ruby sparks]

It has been my experience both males and females pf any skin color and ethnicity can be jerks, assholes, tempermental, and petty.

She was loosing and lost control. I am tired of hearing every time a woman or a minority fouls up it has to be bias.


McEnroe was notorious for tirades and was a draw for tennis, he was sanctioned a number of times. Some men were not, others were not. We'd need to see the history of female sanctions.

https://people.com/sports/male-on-court-meltdowns-tennis-history/

What would be most useful, I think, would be the full record of this particular umpire's decisions over the years, because that might eliminate at least two variables (different umpires making different decisions and different eras being compared). If there was a pattern of him penalising women more than men for equivalent infractions, then we might wonder about his impartiality.

As it is, so far there only seem to be anecdotes.

This one is not in support of Serena:

The former British tennis No 1 Annabel Croft said that, while she had sympathy for Williams, her claim that she had been treated differently because she is a woman was wide of the mark. “I definitely feel sympathy for her because I was actually commentating on the match and I witnessed the whole thing unfolding and it was incredibly dramatic,” Croft told ITV’s Good Morning Britain.

“But Carlos Ramos is not, I don’t believe, sexist. He’s a very strict, very decisive umpire, who takes nothing from any opponent whether they’re male or female. I’ve seen him giving time violations to Rafael Nadal out there on the court many, many times, but he’s someone who just plays it by the rule book.”

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2018/sep/10/serena-williams-wta-us-open-sexism-carlos-ramos

 

[ruby sparks]

It has also been said that Chris Everett, another famous female tennis player, has backed the umpire and not Serena.

Billie Jean King has backed Serena.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outl...ly-than-male-athletes/?utm_term=.045a6471f5ea

Comments section is worth reading. The first (latest?) are comments from people who describe themselves as (varyingly) black, female, supporters of women's and racial issues, acknowledgers that racism and sexism exist in sport and tennis ......but not seeing this as a good example of anything other than bad behaviour by a player and broken rules being enforced.

Unfortunately, imo, Channel 4 News here in the UK covered the item last night and interviewed two women who pretty much backed Serena on the sexism thing, and their views (not supported by anything other than anecdote) were not challenged. Pity. Usually, Channel 4 invite persons from 2 'sides' in those situations.