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It can be a lot more; as an investigative tool it can lead to obscure but relevant documents that would otherwise be hard to find. Even as an entertainment portal, it’s an impressive edifice.
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It can be a lot more; as an investigative tool it can lead to obscure but relevant documents that would otherwise be hard to find. Even as an entertainment portal, it’s an impressive edifice.
JohnG
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Good grief I watched the first video, he made no case that snopes published anything false. He made a lot of ad hominem attacks, and the examples he used were not false. His biggest claim is that they must be liars because they wouldn't come on his show, as if that was an admission of guilt - after he says in the video he's a pot head who works out of his garage.
Yeah Jimmy, we'll be right over
untermensche
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Jimmy Dore is a bombastic hyperactive moron.
But he rails against the left.
Calls AOC a sell out standing in the way of healthcare.
People on the right like to hear stuff like that even if it is mindless nonsense.
But he rails against the left.
Calls AOC a sell out standing in the way of healthcare.
People on the right like to hear stuff like that even if it is mindless nonsense.
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That's not 'other way 'round.' More 'part and parcel.'
Reality offends the Right, exactly because it matches their preferred myths less and less as time passes.
Between 24-hour news and the internet, American exceptionalism, White superiority, God's grace, manifest destiny, all tend to wilt in the spotlight, the bruises stark and spreading like on last week's bananas.
Thus, they burrow into their own reality and pull the hole in after them, waving their Wer'e#1 gloves and Trump flags at each other in the dark, telling each other they still have teh specials.
DrZoidberg
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What's your evidence for the lies? No, I'm not going to watch youtube videos. Do you have blog posts or something easier to digest?
Unless those inclusions go against their biases.
I put a link behind a couple of words normally used to obscure the intent--absolutely no changes to the text. Promptly reverted.
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Okay, yeah, Melania did sort of get voted in.
Yeah, anyone who willingly goes on to Tucker Carlson's show to dump on AOC is not a leftist and more of a grifting cunt. Jimmy Dore is just a shittier version of Dave Rubin or Candace Owens; someone who started their career hanging shit on Trump and then realising there is more money being a shill.
You know, the very thing RVonse accuses "mainstream media" of doing.
lpetrich
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The Young Turks - it was founded as a radio show in 2002 by Cenk Uygur, with Ana Kasparian joining in 2008. Several other people have been regulars or semiregulars. John Iadarola joined in 2012, and he now has his own show, "The Damage Report". It went on the Internet as a YouTube channel in 2006.As to
Dave Rubin, his Rubin Report was on TYT in 2013-15.As to
Jimmy Dore, he was on TYT in 2009–2019.Candace Owens was never anywhere close to TYT, however.
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Candace Owens was never anywhere close to TYT, however.
Agreed. And also not the point I was making. Candace Owens started off bashing Trump and then did one hell of a backflip once she discovered being astroturfed was far more lucrative. No different than Jimmy Dore or Dave Rubin. I give it another 6 months until we see Dore do a PragerU video.
Why? Does debunking misinformation offend you in some way? Snopes actually has one of the best track records for dispelling myths and lies, regardless of what the right wing authoritarian bubble claims. (And that should tell you something - right wing authoritarians do NOT like fact checking!)
lpetrich
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Candace Owens is not the only black woman who discovered that the right wing would give her more of an audience than the left wing. Diamond and Silk are two black women who did so: sisters Ineitha Lynnette "Diamond" Hardaway and Herneitha Rochelle "Silk" Hardaway Richardson.JohnG
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Snopes does not subscribe to Hillary C being a murderer, they fact check Trump (as they do Biden, Obama) and that rarely works in Trump's favor, and they do not support conspiracy theories that have no evidence. Their whole business model relies on them being impartial and thorough.
The problem is, to a certain segment of the population, reality appears partisan, so a site like snopes appears biased. It's very probable that they may get some things wrong on occasion, but I highly doubt it's purposeful. More likely they are working with the best info available to them at the time of posting.
The problem is, to a certain segment of the population, reality appears partisan, so a site like snopes appears biased. It's very probable that they may get some things wrong on occasion, but I highly doubt it's purposeful. More likely they are working with the best info available to them at the time of posting.
Elixir
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Agreed. It has been raised that their bias is reflected in the content selection, not in the content itself. I think that’s right too, but I believe that the selective bias arises from the paucity of facts that are damning to the left, and the embarrassment of riches offered up by the right - mountains of falsehoods, fallacies and half truths.
Y’all on the right need to try harder if you want honest reporting/fact checking to reflect well on the right.
laughing dog
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Reality is partisan: it favours those who are grounded in reality.
Oh, of course reality only agrees with stuff that is real! How could we trust anything so biased as that?
This. The only beefs I've had with Snopes is a bit too much trust of official records. Sorry, but when the claim is that the authorities are ignoring something the official data is not a rebuttal.