In a choice between an annoying girl who is staring at her cell phone and having a cop come in and bodyslam one of my students, the latter is FAR more disruptive than the former.
Any cop who enters any classroom should, obviously, be shot at once in self-defense.
Any cop who enters any classroom should, obviously, be shot at once in self-defense.
Who cares enough to have enforceable rules so classes are not constantly disrupted? Or is teaching in an orderly classroom full of non-disruptive students "hostile" to the welfare of the common people? Hmmmm?
Any cop who enters any classroom should, obviously, be shot at once in self-defense.
They called the police officer in. He informed her that he would arrest her if she didn't get out. When he tried to arrest her she resisted which prompted him to use force to extract her from the desk/chair combo. She is in the wrong, not the cop.Discipline can be enforced in many ways. Thousands of teachers across the planet enforce discipline in their classrooms every day without resorting to violence against their students. The student in this particular incident did not pose a threat to her classmates or teachers. The use of violent and forceful means to remove her from the classroom is both dangerous and completely out of proportion to the actions of the student. Violence against children is almost never the right answer.
COLUMBIA, SC (WLTX)- On Wednesday, attorney Todd Rutherford told News 19 he will represent both girls who were arrested in the Spring Valley incident.This comes after videos began circulating on social media showing a 16-year-old flipped over in her desk, tossed across the room, and arrested by school resource officer Ben Fields. Fields has now been fired.
Attorney Todd Rutherford said Wednesday that the girl went to the hospital Monday night and has a cast on her arm and has complained of neck, back and psychological injuries.
In an interview with the New York Daily News, Rutherford also said that the student is a recent orphan who lost her mother and is currently living in a foster home. "While her identity, no doubt, will eventually be leaked to the media, it's the goal of her foster mother to protect and care for her as well as she can considering the circumstances," the Daily News' Shaun King wrote.
Well if it's on the internet it must be true, right?
Todd Rutherford, attorney for the girls and state house minrotiy leader in SC, TV interview
Assaulted S.C. Student Is A Recent Orphan Living In Foster Care, Attorney Says
Attorney Todd Rutherford said Wednesday that the girl went to the hospital Monday night and has a cast on her arm and has complained of neck, back and psychological injuries.
In an interview with the New York Daily News, Rutherford also said that the student is a recent orphan who lost her mother and is currently living in a foster home. "While her identity, no doubt, will eventually be leaked to the media, it's the goal of her foster mother to protect and care for her as well as she can considering the circumstances," the Daily News' Shaun King wrote.
Being "in the wrong" does not justify the assault by the police officer. Even his employers understand that - he was fired.They called the police officer in. He informed her that he would arrest her if she didn't get out. When he tried to arrest her she resisted which prompted him to use force to extract her from the desk/chair combo. She is in the wrong, not the cop.Discipline can be enforced in many ways. Thousands of teachers across the planet enforce discipline in their classrooms every day without resorting to violence against their students. The student in this particular incident did not pose a threat to her classmates or teachers. The use of violent and forceful means to remove her from the classroom is both dangerous and completely out of proportion to the actions of the student. Violence against children is almost never the right answer.
Discipline.
Kid had phone.
Tell kid to put phone away.
Kid doesn't put phone away.
Hand kid detention slip and keep on with lesson.
Yup, it really is exactly that easy.
You _tell_ them of the consequences right away, but you don't have to implement them instantly. They know it's coming.
I went to parochial school with uniforms and nuns and whatnot. Discipline was tight. That school dropped corporal punishment in the 1950s.
I certainly never saw anyone lay a hand on a student because the student was talking out of turn, passing note, being mouthy, etc... and we had some real dumbfucks that had been expelled from public schools.
I was expelled from one school and served detention every day for months including saturday mornings in another. Being publicly manhandled would only have made things worse and would have made me a martyr in the eyes of others instead of an annoyance.
Well if it's on the internet it must be true, right?
Using force to arrest a resisting perp is not an assault. Note that even though he was fired (wrongfully I think) he still wasn't charged with assault or any other crime.Being "in the wrong" does not justify the assault by the police officer. Even his employers understand that - he was fired.They called the police officer in. He informed her that he would arrest her if she didn't get out. When he tried to arrest her she resisted which prompted him to use force to extract her from the desk/chair combo. She is in the wrong, not the cop.
Doesn't change the fact that a screenshot of a Facebook post is not sufficient evidence to conclude she had lost her mother. I was not saying I know she wasn't, just that the screenshot does not establish she was.I'm curious whether, if you find out you were wrong in your assumptions and this girl _was_ recently orphaned, attending a new school, living with strangers and having her entire world destroyed and then injured by a cop,
Doesn't change the fact that a screenshot of a Facebook post is not sufficient evidence to conclude she had lost her mother. I was not saying I know she wasn't, just that the screenshot does not establish she was.I'm curious whether, if you find out you were wrong in your assumptions and this girl _was_ recently orphaned, attending a new school, living with strangers and having her entire world destroyed and then injured by a cop,
It is assault. That fact he has yet to be charged does not change that fact.Using force to arrest a resisting perp is not an assault. Note that even though he was fired (wrongfully I think) he still wasn't charged with assault or any other crime.Being "in the wrong" does not justify the assault by the police officer. Even his employers understand that - he was fired.
Did the teacher not know this girl had lost her mom and was in foster care?
If so, why didn't the teacher know?
Alright, so we've entered the point in American history where texting in class, not putting the phone away can lead to arrest? An actual arrest? And you don't find that in any way asymmetrical?Using force to arrest a resisting perp is not an assault. Note that even though he was fired (wrongfully I think) he still wasn't charged with assault or any other crime.Being "in the wrong" does not justify the assault by the police officer. Even his employers understand that - he was fired.
You know, typically teachers are hated by the right-wing. But when it comes to the use of force and putting teens in their place, they become very well aligned with the teachers.Did the teacher not know this girl had lost her mom and was in foster care?
If so, why didn't the teacher know?