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Stand Your Ground has another victim

Stand your ground was supposed to save me from car jacking, armed robbery, unprovoked deadly violence, some fucking tweaker that pulls a gun on me at a boat ramp because he thinks I'm a narc etc...

I don't view stand your ground as a license to berate strangers for parking space violations, watering their lawn on unapproved days, etc... and then shoot somebody if they bow up on me.

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Hmmm. The silence made me think my audio was broken. Turns out it is fine.
These surveillance cameras usually have no mic.
But we know he was politely and calmly addressing the parking space violator?
 
The time between McG taking a step back and getting shot is 2s.

Everybody had time to start moving away when Drejka reached into his pocket and grabbed the gun but Drejka didn't have time to notice that people were moving away and that the guy he shot had stepped back and was turning?
 
I don't view stand your ground as a license to berate strangers for parking space violations, watering their lawn on unapproved days, etc... and then shoot somebody if they bow up on me.

At the same time, your girlfriend being berated does not give you the right to attack a stranger and throw him on the asphalt.

I wonder if Drejka was injured at all. If he was, that would only strengthen his claims.
 
The time between McG taking a step back and getting shot is 2s.

Hmm.... so 2 seconds is not enough reaction time for a guy to notice to notice the other guy is backing away, not attacking.... How many times have we seen someone been shot by the police after being given similar or less time to react to an order?
 
Stand your ground was supposed to save me from car jacking, armed robbery, unprovoked deadly violence, some fucking tweaker that pulls a gun on me at a boat ramp because he thinks I'm a narc etc...

I don't view stand your ground as a license to berate strangers for parking space violations, watering their lawn on unapproved days, etc... and then shoot somebody if they bow up on me.

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Hmmm. The silence made me think my audio was broken. Turns out it is fine.
These surveillance cameras usually have no mic.
But we know he was politely and calmly addressing the parking space violator?

You are 100% correct. The shooter is an asshole. He was picking on a woman with a 5-year child. He's a bully. What happens when a bully gets confronted? They become scared. It's a bad combo when a scared bully has a handgun.
 
Everybody had time to start moving away when Drejka reached into his pocket and grabbed the gun but Drejka didn't have time to notice that people were moving away and that the guy he shot had stepped back and was turning?
That's for the prosecutors to decide. The case has been referred to the DA's office where it belongs.

But this ain't no murder. Imperfect self-defense probably, but given Florida's SYG laws unlikely to lead to any charges.
 
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In Florida they apparently need to add something like this:
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note this is a crusty old white guy who, according to employees of the convenience store, trolled the store parking lot and repeatedly complained or yelled at people for using the handicap spots without a permit.
and the person shot and killed is a black man, which i'm sure means he was a gang banger who had just robbed the place and murdered at least 3 innocent virgin white teen girls, at least according to derec.

commence operation: utter shock at this sequence of events.

I live 10 minutes from here. That isn't the best neighborhood, but it's not horrible, and just as a side note, there's a guns and ammo shop literally across the street.

This guy was known to harass people on a regular basis. He used to do this all the time, he was the "neighborhood enforcer". He would stand around for long periods of time, accosting people using the handicap spot, parking askew between the lines, and visually showing distaste at people's attire (mostly African Americans).

This guy had a gun, felt powerful and has been looking for trouble for a long time. He has been there just itching for a confrontation, and then being a dick, he finally got what he wanted. Now, after instigating the situation, he gets to walk. Pathetic. I know these type of people as I used to work in security, which has a bad habit of attracting wanabee cops. They buy a gun, and then their common sense goes out the window. Once they have their gun on them, they purposefully start taking risks they would not take had they not had a firearm. They take dark alleyways on purpose. They purposefully look for a bad situation to be in so they can use their firearm. It's sad, and these stand your ground laws will cause more problems.

The video clearly shows that although he was pushed, the man was not in fear of his life, but that's all it took for him to fire his weapon. The one that pushed him clearly stopped after that action and maintained his distance to the man. He didn't punch him, and he didn't continue to threaten. No he should not have pushed him, but he should not have been fired on. Period. It's my firm bet we will see this guy in the news again. I'm willing to bet he'll even resume his harassment of that store's customers after some time has passed. If he's really lucky, some firearm fetishist will start a gofund me so the man can get a better firearm.
 
I see this disturbing trend in this thread to claim that McG was somehow justified in attacking Drejka because the latter was "harassing" his girlfriend.

No, he may have felt threatened. All you need is to feel it.
 
No, he may have felt threatened. All you need is to feel it.
So, let me understand you. McG was justified in feeling threatened because Dreja was confronting his girlfriend (and the girlfriend was in the wrong).
But Dreja is not justified in feeling threatened because McG knocked him to the ground with enough force that he rolled some after falling?

Btw, I wonder if the cops gave her a fine when they showed up ...
 
Mr Drejka is a murderous ass, and the Sheriff should be canned. Mr. Drejka had no business interacting with any occupant of the car. At best, he could have walked away any time. No reasonable and sane person would think they needed to pull out a weapon and shoot someone who is unarmed and backing off.

But Mr. Drejka is an older white guy and the victim is black. Can you imagine a white guy not being charged for shooting a white man in this situation?
 
Funny, many posters here have no condoned him pushing the guy to the ground. Merely pointing out the hypocrisy of the pro-killing people that think "self-defense" applies only in a one-way direction.
 
Yeah, notice the disconnect in gun advocates' rhetoric: "We need guns to protect our loved ones from violent strangers." "This man who was harrassing a stranger's family had to use his gun for self defense!"

The law exists for white people to shoot black people. Its defenders will say whatever is necessary to preserve that purpose.

I'll bet you any amount of money that if the deceased man had drawn his own gun (had he had one) and shot the man harassing his family, Derec would not be defending him.
He effectively killed the guy for fear he was about to go black on him... because blacks have super human powers. Had he not had a gun, he would have likely got up and not died. But because he had a gun, the other guy is dead... quite needlessly. Thanks conceal carry permit.

Don't forget the black guy was armed with concrete.
 
I wonder if the girlfriend immediately pulled a weapon and shot the shooter, could she claim stand your ground?
 
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