Stephen Breyer to retire at the end of this court session.

[Jimmy Higgins]

I don't know what kind of man would rather have a man put a finger up his ass than a woman. <-- From the book of Navy SEALs (most likely).

Patient: My goodness, you have a really large finger.
Doctor: OH! Finger... yes, yes... of course.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

I find it a little odd that we have white people here who seem to think and feel they are supporting the desires of non-whites by agreeing with Biden's plan, but in fact they are largely in direct opposition to their desires, according the polls. If you are going to claim you are supportive of the needs and desires of non-whites, shouldn't you change your tune and instead advocate for Biden to consider all races and sexes for the nomination, as the majority of non-whites would prefer?

Where does the poll break down the results by race?

Doesn't. Article indicates 1 in 4 non-white said black woman only. The options were 1) all candidates 2) black women only.

Here is the poll.

 

[Toni]

Is a man sexist if he prefers the person performing a digital rectal exam to be male?

No, he’s just stupid.
Chances are she has much smaller fingers.

That's not necessarily a good thing, in that context.

 

[Toni]

I don't know what kind of man would rather have a man put a finger up his ass than a woman. <-- From the book of Navy SEALs (most likely).

If my husband is any gage, most men are more comfortable talking with other men about issues related to their bathing suit areas. I mean, maybe not all. My own experience is that in general, women tend to be better listeners and to also be better explainers. I'm making this observation with regards to my own care, and also having been to a number of my husband's appointments, and of course, when our kids were young. Our very favorite pediatrician was an older gentleman, old enough to be our parents when our kids were little. He was warm, knowledgeable, comforting, practical, down to earth and had a wonderful way with babies and toddlers. We loved him.

 

[Gospel]

Ok, we need to stop this derail and get back on topic, it's getting out of hand. *rimshot*

 

[Keith&Co.]

I don't know what kind of man would rather have a man put a finger up his ass than a woman.

Um... what kind of man? What's the opposite of exhibitionist? When the 65-year-old bald guy does it, i don't have to try to hide an erection...

 

[Toni]

To get back on track: Presidents have long sought diversity with their picks:

Stephen L. Carter: Presidents have long wanted a diverse Supreme Court

Summary: Presidents have long sought diversity on the bench. It just used to be geographic diversity. In a book published in 1928, Chief Justice Charles Evans Hughes made the case for taking into explicit account the nominee’s state of origin: “The confidence of the country should be maintained by…

www.wctrib.com

Small wonder, then, that when Lyndon Johnson chose Thurgoood Marshall in 1967, some critics argued with straight faces that although they had no objection to the nominee’s race, the president trod dangerous waters by selecting a New Yorker to replace a Texan.

All of which brings us back to Justice O’Connor. As Biden supporters have been noting, President Reagan appointed her in 1981 to fulfill a campaign pledge to appoint the first female justice. Fair enough. But here’s the interesting part. After her first visit with Reagan, O’Connor expressed doubts that she would be chosen. Why? Because the Supreme Court already included a justice — William Rehnquist — who hailed from O’Connor’s home state of Arizona. To add another, she said, would be “politically inopportune.”

 

[laughing dog]

To get back on track: Presidents have long sought diversity with their picks:

Stephen L. Carter: Presidents have long wanted a diverse Supreme Court

Summary: Presidents have long sought diversity on the bench. It just used to be geographic diversity. In a book published in 1928, Chief Justice Charles Evans Hughes made the case for taking into explicit account the nominee’s state of origin: “The confidence of the country should be maintained by…

www.wctrib.com

Small wonder, then, that when Lyndon Johnson chose Thurgoood Marshall in 1967, some critics argued with straight faces that although they had no objection to the nominee’s race, the president trod dangerous waters by selecting a New Yorker to replace a Texan.

All of which brings us back to Justice O’Connor. As Biden supporters have been noting, President Reagan appointed her in 1981 to fulfill a campaign pledge to appoint the first female justice. Fair enough. But here’s the interesting part. After her first visit with Reagan, O’Connor expressed doubts that she would be chosen. Why? Because the Supreme Court already included a justice — William Rehnquist — who hailed from O’Connor’s home state of Arizona. To add another, she said, would be “politically inopportune.”

Yeah, but that was not racial diversity. Apparently that is suspect, but all other types of diversity are not.

 

[Toni]

Same article but maybe better link. I've included more of the text: https://www.startribune.com/presidents-have-long-sought-diversity-on-the-court/600141320/

In the 1950s, Sen. William Langer of North Dakota, a member of the Judiciary Committee, waged what legal scholar Henry Abraham called a "perverse" six-year campaign of "opposing any and all nominees to the Court until someone from his home state (which had never been so honored) received an appointment." (In 1950, Langer had given a speech on the Senate floor lamenting that no major executive branch appointment had ever gone to a North Dakotan.) Yet few at the time few seemed to find it peculiar.

Small wonder, then, that when Lyndon Johnson chose Thurgood Marshall in 1967, some critics argued with straight faces that although they had no objection to the nominee's race, the president trod dangerous waters by selecting a New Yorker to replace a Texan.

 

[Toni]

To get back on track: Presidents have long sought diversity with their picks:

Stephen L. Carter: Presidents have long wanted a diverse Supreme Court

Summary: Presidents have long sought diversity on the bench. It just used to be geographic diversity. In a book published in 1928, Chief Justice Charles Evans Hughes made the case for taking into explicit account the nominee’s state of origin: “The confidence of the country should be maintained by…

www.wctrib.com

Small wonder, then, that when Lyndon Johnson chose Thurgoood Marshall in 1967, some critics argued with straight faces that although they had no objection to the nominee’s race, the president trod dangerous waters by selecting a New Yorker to replace a Texan.

All of which brings us back to Justice O’Connor. As Biden supporters have been noting, President Reagan appointed her in 1981 to fulfill a campaign pledge to appoint the first female justice. Fair enough. But here’s the interesting part. After her first visit with Reagan, O’Connor expressed doubts that she would be chosen. Why? Because the Supreme Court already included a justice — William Rehnquist — who hailed from O’Connor’s home state of Arizona. To add another, she said, would be “politically inopportune.”

Yeah, but that was not racial diversity. Apparently that is suspect, but all other types of diversity are not.

Double whammy: female plus black = a bridge way too far. Bush Sr. could appoint a black man. Reagan could appoint a woman. Of course, they were both Republicans so whatever they do is The Right Thing. If Trump were POTUS and decided to appoint a black female to the Supreme Court, no doubt he'd appoint Diamond or Silk, or even support expanding the Court to include them both. And Trumpsters would wax poetic on how not-racist he is!!!

 

[Loren Pechtel]

So, the million dollar question is: do you think all 200ish white men nominated and appointed were because of racism?

Or do you think that if they didn't state in advance that they were nominaing an old white guy, it's totally cool and not racist at all?

The answer to wrongdoing isn't tit-for-tat.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Is a man sexist if he prefers the person performing a digital rectal exam to be male?

No, he’s just stupid.
Chances are she has much smaller fingers.

Yup--for anything where a medical person is sticking themselves inside you small is good. The desired feature is small, though, not female. They are correlated but you prefer my father to my mother.

 

[Elixir]

Is a man sexist if he prefers the person performing a digital rectal exam to be male?

No, he’s just stupid.
Chances are she has much smaller fingers.

Yup--for anything where a medical person is sticking themselves inside you small is good. The desired feature is small, though, not female. They are correlated but you prefer my father to my mother.

To be fair, I’ve never seen them

 

[Copernicus]

I think it's more important for Biden to fulfill the campaign promise he made than to pay attention to the polls. A similar promise several ex-presidents also made.

Most people expect their politicians to behave like politicians, and they hate them for it. Biden actually made that campaign promise at the behest of Jim Clyburn in order to get his endorsement before the South Carolina primary. Before that time, Biden was not doing as well in the primaries as expected, since he had been branded by the press as the "favorite". The key to winning South Carolina was the Black vote, and Clyburn was the kingmaker. Biden hesitated on making the promise, but he did what he thought he had to do to bring his base of support out and secure the nomination. It was a backroom deal and it worked.

We have no choice but to elect politicians to office, and politicians have been making deals like this forever. It's not as if Biden couldn't have kept his mouth shut and appointed a black woman to the Court, but Biden felt that he didn't have that option if he didn't do what Clyburn was urging him to do. If he hadn't won the nomination, he wouldn't be able to appoint anyone no matter what their race and gender. I know that @Elixir has been calling Biden's promise stupid, but he wasn't being stupid. He was running in a Democratic primary, and this was part of his calculated strategy for winning the nomination.

 

[Toni]

I'm certain that we all long for the days when the appointment of a black woman to any high post or indeed, winning the position of POTUS is not something out of the ordinary at all.

 

[Patooka]

So, the million dollar question is: do you think all 200ish white men nominated and appointed were because of racism?

Or do you think that if they didn't state in advance that they were nominaing an old white guy, it's totally cool and not racist at all?

The answer to wrongdoing isn't tit-for-tat.

Agreed, so here's a question:

Should members of the Supreme Court be qualified and be representative of the citizens they serve?

I'll even rephrase that as a question Australians should ask:

Should members of the High Court be qualified and representative of the citizens they serve?

In my opinion, the answer to both questions should be yes.

 

[Derec]

Majority of Americans want Biden to consider 'all possible nominees' for Supreme Court vacancy: POLL

During the spring 2020 presidential primaries, days before his set of big wins on Super Tuesday, Biden pledged to nominate the first Black woman to the Supreme Court, if elected. Now, with the chance to do so, just over three-quarters of Americans (76%) want Biden to consider "all possible nominees." Just 23% want him to automatically follow through on his history-making commitment that the White House seems keen on seeing through.

 

[Derec]

During his eight years office, President Obama didn’t nominate a single individual who received a “not qualified” ABA rating. In contrast, in just four years President Trump has nominated nine individuals rated “not qualified” to serve as federal judges.

First, my statement was about SCOTUS justices. I do not follow every single federal judicial appointment.
Second, ABA is a left-of-center organization.

Despite claiming to be nonpartisan, the ABA has supported and lobbied for a broad left-of-center agenda on issues including criminal justice policy, immigration, abortion, LGBT issues, and gun control. In recent years, the ABA has adopted lobbying priorities including legal status for nearly all illegal immigrants currently living in the United States, the repeal of mandatory-minimum sentencing laws, taxpayer-funded abortions for low-income Americans, and the implementation of affirmative action programs.

So it's hardly surprising they are more critical of Republican appointees vs. Democratic ones like Sonia "discriminating by race is fine as long as I get to benefit" Sotomayor.

Derec should own up to the fact that he is an ultra conservative. [removed]

BS. I am just not an ultra-lefty like you. This forum leans left, and the Democratic Party has shifted hard left in recent years.

 

[Derec]

I don't think much of CNN's fact checking here. It was pretty sloppy. Sotomayor's comment was sufficiently vague that it's not possible to tell whether she was claiming that 100,000 children were CURRENTLY hospitalized at the time she was speaking of or over the course of the pandemic.

Regardless of your apologetics, she spoke a falsehood.

It has been widely reported that hospitalizations for children were up dramatically and that there are more children dying during this omicron surge. It's also pretty ironic since CNN itself reported that hundreds of children were hospitalized with COVID19 every day:

100s << 100,000

As to Sotomayor, she is the justice who, before she was on the high court, ruled that a city may throw out the results of a promotion exam if whites do better than blacks. Luckily her ruling was overturned by SCOTUS. She also thinks the role of judges is to "make policy" rather than to apply and interpret laws.

 

[Derec]

I agree. A corrupt Uncle Tom is in no way comparable.

Leftists love to call all blacks who refuse to toe the party line "Uncle Toms", "Oreos" etc.

to a competent, humanitarian, intelligent, well qualified justice

We were talking about Sotomayor. Who are you talking about?

Racial Preference Sonia admitted that she would not have been admitted to Princeton on merit and that she only got in because of her ethnicity and gender. Same reason she in on SCOTUS. A pure quota woman. Not that intelligent. Or well-qualified.
Humanitarian? She did not care that 20 New Haven firefighters studied hard for their promotion exam. She ruled that the city may discriminate against them on account of race based on the bankrupt notion of "disparate impact".