DBT
Contributor
Without evidence, the truth of a belief is held on faith. Faith in this instance is defined as a belief held without the support of evidence.....which is not to be confused with trust, hope or confidence,
1. If you have to create the desperately imaginative prospect of there EVER being anything without evidence then you are A) intentionally stupid, B) desperately delusional, C) astonishingly arrogant or D) what I happen to think is the case here, all of the above.
Where is the evidence for the existence of the bible God? Or any version of a God or gods? Are we able to examine the evidence?
Where is the evidence for the resurrection of Jesus? Or any of the supernatural stories that the ancients believed in?
Is there something we can examine?
This means that if you have the smartest person in the world saying something is true and it isn't, their testimony is still evidence and conversely if you have the dumbest person in the world saying something isn't true and it is, their testimony is still evidence. Having evidence doesn't mean something is true or accurate. Not having evidence doesn't mean it isn't. You get that? Evidence or lack thereof doesn't substantiate or negate a proposition since every case for or against can either be true or false in the conclusion. Which is why saying "we have evidence and you don't" is a dead giveaway for delusional cognitive bias or a desperately stupid lie that only an idiot would believe.
You are getting emotional. If evidence is available, just show it.
2. Evidence is defined, rightfully, as the available body of facts or information indicating whether or not a belief or proposition is true or valid.
See 1. A lie is evidence as well as a fact.
A lie is not evidence for the truth of whatever is being lied about. A lie is falsified by evidence to the contrary.
3. Truth is defined rightfully as a fact or belief that is accepted as true.
Through evidence, not faith, not through assumption or general consensus. Nor because something is written in what some consider to be a holy book inspired by God.
See 2. This means that if you believe it to be true then it is. If the world thinks the earth is flat then that is truth. If the world thinks it has evidence and it doesn't that is true. Truth is an illusion. Knowledge temporal.
Resolved through research and testing, evidence, not appearance or faith based belief.
4. Faith IS trust. Etymologically, logically, factually, reasonably, obviously, definitively. Complete trust or confidence in someone or something. Faith is exactly the same thing as evidence specifically in that if you do or do not have either you may be right or wrong.
Faith is not the same as trust. Which is why we have two words rather than one.
Trust may be built or destroyed through direct experience with someone or something, which is objective evidence.
While you may 'trust' your faith is right, what you believe in may have insufficient, or no evidence, to support it, yet you believe anyway.
That is essentially what separates trust from faith.
5. The accusation that something is without evidence is only evidence of ignorance or stupidity because if there were no evidence of the thing in question you would be oblivious to it's possible existence or non-existence. If you are not aware of this the likelihood of your being either intentionally or unintentionally deceptive increases exponentially. Which means that the skeptical are as delusional as the faithful. If that were true its very principle would be what makes the fucking world go 'round you poor delusional oblivious overconfident morons.
There are in fact beliefs that were and are held without the support of evidence, Islamic theology, Hindu theology, Judaism, Christianity, the countless gods the ancients believed in, etc, etc.
If you think that you have evidence, just present it.
At least a doubting believer has the sense to see this where a confident idiot does not.
Think about it for fuck sake.
Unlike you, I have thought about it. Whether a believer has doubts or not does not alter the foundational status of their belief, which may not be sufficiently supported by evidence, or perhaps not at all, yet the believer persists regardless of their doubts..