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Wow, that's brilliant.
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A couple comments.
Regarding item 1---
God is not something "in the universe" so it should not be included on this list at all. God exists, somehow, outside of the universe in some other kind of dimension or realm. Maybe we should not use the word "exists" to describe God's status in the first place, so to say that "God exists" is a misleading statement.
Regarding items 2-4---
Space, elements, and nature are uncreated? That pretty much contradicts all religions which state them to have been created by [their version of god]. So those assertions do not work well either.
Brian
Regarding item 1---
God is not something "in the universe" so it should not be included on this list at all. God exists, somehow, outside of the universe in some other kind of dimension or realm. Maybe we should not use the word "exists" to describe God's status in the first place, so to say that "God exists" is a misleading statement.
Regarding items 2-4---
Space, elements, and nature are uncreated? That pretty much contradicts all religions which state them to have been created by [their version of god]. So those assertions do not work well either.
Brian
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here are some options
good luck, Syed...
God is the universe, the universe is God, all is eternal.
The universe is made of space and is God.
The elements are in the universe which is God.
The universe is by its nature nature and is God which is eternal.
good luck, Syed...
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You've preached this shit before, haven't you?
IIRC, you could prove exactly fuck-all.
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Syed's okay with that.
He imagined a very potent God, but not an omnipotent one. When asked 'Why didn't god do (something more logical) instead of (bullshit claim Syed supports for some reason)?' he'll happily Say God was limited in his options based on what was available for him to work with. Syed's god merely authored life and order into the universe that was already there. Could probably call him the sandcastle skybeast...
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Oh, yeah! A few things handily disprove your list, Syed.
Sorry, but these are not eternal, and cannot be:
- Technetium (TC)
- Promethium (Pm)
- Polonium (Po)
- Astatine (At)
- Radon (Rn)
- Francium (Fr)
- Radium (Ra)
- Actinium (Ac)
- Thorium (Th)
- Protactinium (Pa)
- Uranium (U)
- Neptunium (Np)
- Plutonium (Pu)
- Americium (Am)
- Curium (Cm)
- Berkelium (Bk)
- Californium (Cf)
- Einsteinium (Es)
- Fermium (Fm)
- Mendelevium (Md)
- Nobelium (No)
- Lawrencium (Lr)
- Rutherfordium (Rt)
- Dubnium (Db)
- Seaborgium (Sg)
- Bohrium (Bh)
- Hassium (Hs)
- Meitnerium (Mt)
Syed, wrong since 1896....
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Reminds me of Sesame Street. 3 of these things belong together, one of them doesn't belong.
Space, matter and nature can be demonstrated to exist, so at least they have a leg up on the odd thing in the list - a god that cannot be demonstrated to exist in any fashion or form.
Space, matter and nature can be demonstrated to exist, so at least they have a leg up on the odd thing in the list - a god that cannot be demonstrated to exist in any fashion or form.
If Space is uncreated, then it does not need a creator god. So it doesn't really matter whether he is eternal or not.
Besides, it's easy to go around declaring things to be eternal: Superman is eternal. Bad smells are eternal. See, easy really.
Besides, it's easy to go around declaring things to be eternal: Superman is eternal. Bad smells are eternal. See, easy really.
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The one thing that is eternal: theists using bullshit arguments to try to justify their belief (and, where possible, impose it on non-believers).
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Wait... if space, elements, and nature are all eternal, then what is the significance of god? Should I pray to an atom of Hydrogen?
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Maybe God's the fourth isotope of hydrogen? Heavy, heavy, heavy water?
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I would replace no. 3 with the thickheadedness of our house Mahog worshiper. He seems utterly and eternally impervious to facts.
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Of course we must pray - Atoms of Hydrogen are the holiest of atoms....the atoms from whence all heavy elements were cooked in the hearts of supermassive stars.
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I suspect that "elements" here are referring to the four elements of Earth, Air, Water and Fire. If so, the question is whether misconceptions can be eternal. I'm leaving that for the theologians to figure out! 
all elements born from one kind of particle in the space
life on earth prove god exist
without car maker car cant exist
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god created you
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Nope.
All elements are made up from various combinations of these six kinds of Quark, six kinds of Leptons, and five kinds of Bosons.
Really, before you make such definite statements, you should at least try to learn something about the subject at hand. Otherwise people might write you off as an ignorant fool who is talking utter rubbish.