The New Testament as a guide for living for atheists

[TomC]

We should all be Christians because the christianists are so morally glorious!

Tom

Erm, the article is about Churchill's policies. Was Winston Churchill a supporter or opponent of fascism?

It's about how great Christian culture is, and why it should dominate the human race.
Tom

 

[DBT]

I don't see that the golden rule or our social values of equality and justice are to be considered to be exclusively Christian principles.

 

[steve_bank]

NB is the kind of Christian zealot we all love to hate.

Thank you for your hate. Without it, I would never have been pushed to bolster my case, and therefore never would have found the work of Harry Waton, John Macmurray and Robert T. Browne.

Now it is Christians vs fascists.

The Fuehrer Principle. Humans who like to get behind somebody and parrot ideology without thinking. Makes them feel good and gives them a sense of purpose and meaning.

As Harry Waton makes clear, all the fascists are destined to become Jews. Fascism is the futile resistance to the onset of universal Judaism.

Feldercarb.

You do not understand and can not articulate what facism means. You moyeh the wrds yu do nt undesd, the ak of a follower in authoritarian regimes.

Let me guess, you are around 25 years old and live in your parent's basement?

To the mods...a darail over to social science, politics of philoso[hy?

 

[No Robots]

NB is the kind of Christian zealot we all love to hate.

Thank you for your hate. Without it, I would never have been pushed to bolster my case, and therefore never would have found the work of Harry Waton, John Macmurray and Robert T. Browne.

Now it is Christians vs fascists.

The Fuehrer Principle. Humans who like to get behind somebody and parrot ideology without thinking. Makes them feel good and gives them a sense of purpose and meaning.

As Harry Waton makes clear, all the fascists are destined to become Jews. Fascism is the futile resistance to the onset of universal Judaism.

Feldercarb.

You do not understand and can not articulate what facism means. You moyeh the wrds yu do nt undesd, the ak of a follower in authoritarian regimes.

Let me guess, you are around 25 years old and live in your parent's basement?

To the mods...a darail over to social science, politics of philoso[hy?

And you're in a nursing home, right? (I think the staff are skimping on your meds.)

 

[No Robots]

Heh. Just kidding, steve_bank. I showed these posts to Jr. Robots (who really is 22 and lives in his parents' basement), and he thought yours was funny and mine was mean.

Anyhoo, I will be 62 on April1. I have been an orphan for about two years.

My irl name is Barrett Pashak. I live in Edmonton, Canada. I have a masters in librarianship. I make a living doing administrative work. I am the only person in the Anglosphere promoting the work of Constantin Brunner. I am apparently the only person in the world promoting the work of Harry Waton and Robert T. Browne.

 

[lostone]

Heh. Just kidding, steve_bank. I showed these posts to Jr. Robots (who really is 22 and lives in his parents' basement), and he thought yours was funny and mine was mean.

Anyhoo, I will be 62 on April1. I have been an orphan for about two years.

My irl name is Barrett Pashak. I live in Edmonton, Canada. I have a masters in librarianship. I make a living doing administrative work. I am the only person in the Anglosphere promoting the work of Constantin Brunner. I am apparently the only person in the world promoting the work of Harry Waton and Robert T. Browne.

We all have our personal beliefs, for reasons of our own. Most of us keep them private, since making them public seldom goes well.

 

[No Robots]

We all have our personal beliefs, for reasons of our own. Most of us keep them private, since making them public seldom goes well.

I have been politically active since I was very young. Public exposure doesn't frighten me.

 

[steve_bank]

NR, were you born and raised Jewish? Ihave known several slef proclaimed Jews, and for whatever reason they were black. One lives in my building.

You sound more like en Evangelical Christian .

If the world is to become Jewish does that mean we all have to eat kosher food?

Being Jewish in large part is based on the matricidal line. If your mother is Jewish you are Jewish.

What complicates Judaism is that it is ethnicity, race, and religion combined.

Look at Mideast. Jews-Judaism, Persians(aka Iran)-Islam, Arabs-Islam not getting along. Racial and religious bias and conflict.

How is it that a Jewish world would be any better than a Hindu, Muslim, or Christian world?

 

[No Robots]

I don't think I ever met a Jew until I was in grad school.
I grew up atheist. My parents were socialist politicians, anti-religious, secularist, materialist.
I'm naturally of a spiritual bent. I was deeply unhappy and alienated in my youth.
I found with Constantin Brunner an immediate kinship.
I really just want to bring him to the attention of people like me who may be struggling in darkness.
By the world becoming Jewish I basically mean spiritualized. All spiritual expressions have their place, but Judaism, particularly that of Christ, is the best. Theosophy serves as a kind of common clearing house. Waton says eventually all men will be circumcised. Who knows?

 

[bilby]

We all have our personal beliefs, for reasons of our own. Most of us keep them private, since making them public seldom goes well.

I have been politically active since I was very young. Public exposure doesn't frighten me.

Maybe not, but it certainly should embarrass you.

 

[No Robots]

We all have our personal beliefs, for reasons of our own. Most of us keep them private, since making them public seldom goes well.

I have been politically active since I was very young. Public exposure doesn't frighten me.

Maybe not, but it certainly should embarrass you.

Why? Shouldn't I be willing to stand up for what I believe? Only Philistines are embarrassed.

I was brought up a socialist. I found, though, that socialism is at an impasse. What it lacks is a spiritual component. The key to the future is a theologico-political movement rooted in socialism and the Judaism of Christ. My New World Order is intended to provide just that.

 

[bilby]

Why? Shouldn't I be willing to stand up for what I believe? Only Philistines are embarrassed.

When you believe something as embarrassingly absurd as the stuff you're posting here, you should be embarrassed.

That you aren't is obvious. That doesn't alter the fact that you clearly should be.

 

[No Robots]

Embarrassed about what, exactly? Everything I post is supported by the writers I have referred to: Constantin Brunner, Harry Waton, John Macmurray, Robert T. Browne. If I stand condemned, I am proud to be condemned with them.

 

[bilby]

Embarrassed about what, exactly? Everything I post is supported by the writers I have referred to: Constantin Brunner, Harry Waton, John Macmurray, Robert T. Browne. If I stand condemned, I am proud to be condemned with them.

Well, for a start you should be embarrassed by your belief that being "supported by writers" somehow improves a shit argument or nonsensical belief.

 

[No Robots]

Embarrassed about what, exactly? Everything I post is supported by the writers I have referred to: Constantin Brunner, Harry Waton, John Macmurray, Robert T. Browne. If I stand condemned, I am proud to be condemned with them.

Well, for a start you should be embarrassed by your belief that being "supported by writers" somehow improves a shit argument or nonsensical belief.

Sorry, but I like and trust these writers, and I'm dedicated to promoting them. No embarrassment here about that.

 

[bilby]

Embarrassed about what, exactly? Everything I post is supported by the writers I have referred to: Constantin Brunner, Harry Waton, John Macmurray, Robert T. Browne. If I stand condemned, I am proud to be condemned with them.

Well, for a start you should be embarrassed by your belief that being "supported by writers" somehow improves a shit argument or nonsensical belief.

Sorry, but I like and trust these writers, and I'm dedicated to promoting them. No embarrassment here about that.

And indeed I don't expect any. It would be appropriate, sensible, and reasonable; it would be the response that any educated and thoughtful person who values his reputation would have; in short, you should be embarrassed; but I understand and observe that you sadly are not.

I understand that you are not, but don't worry, I am embarrassed for you, and further embarrassed that I am a member of a species that contains so many individuals who see no grounds for embarrassment in such abject disregard for the fundamentals of epistemology.

 

[No Robots]

I feel quite secure in the solidity of the epistemology underlying the views I have presented.

 

[abaddon]

I feel quite secure in the solidity of the epistemology underlying the views I have presented.

Hi No Robots,

I don't want to pile on with the others. So this isn't criticism, it's advice. I'm hoping to stop the back-and-forth of people expressing frustration at the communication breakdown in this thread.

To promote the books you should present their views in plainer language. They're arcane works, and the talk about things like everyone "becoming Jewish" must inevitably puzzle people.

You only just yesterday explained that "becoming Jewish" means getting "spiritualized". But then, even that is just a baby step towards clarity, because "spiritualized" needs explanation too.

Minds are all different. If it's frustrating that other minds don't get what you're saying it doesn't mean they're obtuse. Rather it means you're talking at them in a private language. Or at least, that's what I see happening. Try for language that persons with zero acquaintance with those writers will readily understand.

 

[steve_bank]

I feel quite secure in the solidity of the epistemology underlying the views I have presented.

Christians feel secure Jesus loves tem and they will be at his side in heaven.They feel secure that Jesus rose from the dead.

As to writers, there are UFO blieves who believe in writers proving UFOs exist and we have been visited by ETs.

The fact that can not be explained away is that there is little directly attributed to someoe called Jesus in the gospels, and no contemporaneous corroboration.

In high school Latin class, RCC schools, we had to read Caesar's Gallic Wars in Latin.

I read Descartes,Plsto, and and Marcus Aurelius. They left footprints.

There are accounts of Cleopatra. The Egyptian pyramids are evidence of the Pharaohs who built them.

There is noting attributed to a single person called Jesus other tan a few random cliche's and sayings from who knows where.

As to a global Judaism. What is your view on eating kosher and circumcision?

and there are those who choose to live like eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. The one who can accept this should accept it.

Whether it is metaphor for celibacy or it is about castration, should one be sexless if not married?

Paul said yes one should be celibate, as he was.

Satan is lurking whnever you have a sexual thought and start to get an erection?

7 Now, about what you wrote: “It’s good for a man not to have sex with a woman.” 2 Each man should have his own wife, and each woman should have her own husband because of sexual immorality. 3 The husband should meet his wife’s sexual needs, and the wife should do the same for her husband. 4 The wife doesn’t have authority over her own body, but the husband does. Likewise, the husband doesn’t have authority over his own body, but the wife does. 5 Don’t refuse to meet each other’s needs unless you both agree for a short period of time to devote yourselves to prayer. Then come back together again so that Satan might not tempt you because of your lack of self-control. 6 I’m saying this to give you permission; it’s not a command. 7 I wish all people were like me, but each has a particular gift from God: one has this gift, and another has that one.

8 I’m telling those who are single and widows that it’s good for them to stay single like me. 9 But if they can’t control themselves, they should get married, because it’s better to marry than to burn with passion. 10 I’m passing on the Lord’s command to those who are married: A wife shouldn’t leave her husband, 11 but if she does leave him, then she should stay single or be reconciled to her husband. And a man shouldn’t divorce his wife.

 

[No Robots]

Thank you, abaddon, your remarks are very helpful. I'm probably due for a reset. How 'bout them Oilers?