The RFK Jr. Thread

[bilby]

As time goes on I am even more convinced the Democrats stole the election.

Sane people don't expect that when someone steals something, the rightful owner still has it.

If I stole your wallet, I would have your wallet.

If the Democrats stole the election, they would have the President Elect.

 

[bilby]

Also, if you think that MAGA - a party literally run by a billionaire - is now the party of the common man, I've got a degree from Trump University I'd like to sell you.

Musk and Trump are both billionaires but I trust Musk FAR more than I do Trump. If for no other reason, Musk does not even want to be in politics. He just wants to invent and build things to help humanity.

What colour is the sky on your planet?

 

[bilby]

A Florida city voted this week to remove fluoride from its drinking water, with one city commissioner citing Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s past comments on the matter as one of the reasons.

“I’ll tell you that after the recent election, President Trump has named Mr. Kennedy to be his H-something-something director, and Mr. Kennedy has made it well known and has publicly said that he wants fluoride out of the water around the entire country,” said Dantzler, who voted in favor to remove fluoride, according to WFLA.

Florida city votes to remove fluoride from drinking water, citing RFK Jr.’s comments as one of the reasons

A Florida city voted this week to remove fluoride from its drinking water, with one city commissioner citing Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s past comments on the matter as one of the reasons. The cit…

thehill.com

Maybe we need to start spreading our own conspiracies since this is what the MAGA crowd seems to respond to.

RFK Jr. is being directed by the dental lobby to remove fluoride from the nation's water supply so that dentists can get wealthy on fixing the rotting teeth of America's children. It has been shown that fluoride in appropriately small amounts in the water leads to children having on average two fewer cavities and no negative long term health effects.

RFK Jr. is being directed by the medical lobby to get rid of vaccines so that they can earn much more money treating sick people from infectious diseases. Also, there is an elite cabal that wants to get rid of vaccines as a way to help depopulate the earth.

Maybe RFK jr. is a loon but you don't know if he is. You don't know because our science can not be trusted to tell the truth when it involves politics and profits for large corporations.

Oi.

Is fluoride harmful? I have no idea.
But what I can tell you is that materials like asbestos and lead paint were common when I was young. The harmful effects of smoking were known but not in public discourse yet because of tobacco profits either.

So it would not surprise me in the least if there actually were harmful side effects from fluoridated water.

Oh! Oh! Oh! My turn, my turn!

Is latex paint harmful? I have no idea. But what I can tell you is that materials like asbestos and lead paint were common when I was young. The harmful effects of smoking were known but not in public discourse yet because of tobacco profits either. So it would not surprise me in the least if there actually were harmful side effects from latex paint.

How about another?

Is gelatin harmful? I have no idea. But what I can tell you is that materials like asbestos and lead paint were common when I was young. The harmful effects of smoking were known but not in public discourse yet because of tobacco profits either. So it would not surprise me in the least if there actually were harmful side effects from gelatin.

This is fun! You can say anything is fucked up... you just need to reference other things that big corporations used that ended up not being helpful. But thank goodness you support Trump who help put visciously pro-Big Business judges on the Federal and Supreme Courts to help protect us from Big Business.... and fluoride, latex paint, and gelatin.

It's the DHMO you really need to worry about. DHMO related deaths massively outweigh all of the fatalities from asbestos, fluoride, latex paint, and gelatin combined.

 

[blastula]

This is from last year, a post by Paul Offit.

My Conversation with Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

Twenty years ago, I had a one-hour conversation with RFK Jr. In his current campaign for president, he has referred to that conversation during public appearances. It’s time to set the record straight

pauloffit.substack.com

 

[Patooka]

Also, if you think that MAGA - a party literally run by a billionaire - is now the party of the common man, I've got a degree from Trump University I'd like to sell you.

Musk and Trump are both billionaires but I trust Musk FAR more than I do Trump. If for no other reason, Musk does not even want to be in politics. He just wants to invent and build things to help humanity.

What colour is the sky on your planet?

The colour is FREEDOM, silly.

 

[Axulus]

This is from last year, a post by Paul Offit.

My Conversation with Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

Twenty years ago, I had a one-hour conversation with RFK Jr. In his current campaign for president, he has referred to that conversation during public appearances. It’s time to set the record straight

pauloffit.substack.com

Demonstrates what a lying scumbag RFK Jr. really is. It's no wonder Trump picked him and why MAGA loves him.

The MAGAts are like flies drawn to shit.

 

[RVonse]

Science is the one field where trust is neither expected nor ever given. If you trust someone else, you are not doing science.

Science doesn't want people to trust it. Politicians, media personalities, and large corporations, on the other hand, want nothing else.

Unfortunately you can not get to real science without corrupt people being in the middle of it. When the scientist livelihood depends on not doing real science they can not be trustworthy. And that happens so often in politics you really can not put complete trust in anyone.

 

[RVonse]

This is from last year, a post by Paul Offit.

My Conversation with Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

Twenty years ago, I had a one-hour conversation with RFK Jr. In his current campaign for president, he has referred to that conversation during public appearances. It’s time to set the record straight

pauloffit.substack.com

Demonstrates what a lying scumbag RFK Jr. really is. It's no wonder Trump picked him and why MAGA loves him.

The MAGAts are like flies drawn to shit.

From you own article, read the first comment (Steve Kirsch) given to it. Complaining that Paul Offit is not a friend of truth and transparency. Doesn't mean Paul Offit is wrong but what is wrong with science providing truth and transparency? Without complete truth and transparency how can we know if JFK jr. is even wrong?

 

[GenesisNemesis]

A Florida city voted this week to remove fluoride from its drinking water, with one city commissioner citing Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s past comments on the matter as one of the reasons.

“I’ll tell you that after the recent election, President Trump has named Mr. Kennedy to be his H-something-something director, and Mr. Kennedy has made it well known and has publicly said that he wants fluoride out of the water around the entire country,” said Dantzler, who voted in favor to remove fluoride, according to WFLA.

Florida city votes to remove fluoride from drinking water, citing RFK Jr.’s comments as one of the reasons

A Florida city voted this week to remove fluoride from its drinking water, with one city commissioner citing Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s past comments on the matter as one of the reasons. The cit…

thehill.com

Maybe we need to start spreading our own conspiracies since this is what the MAGA crowd seems to respond to.

RFK Jr. is being directed by the dental lobby to remove fluoride from the nation's water supply so that dentists can get wealthy on fixing the rotting teeth of America's children. It has been shown that fluoride in appropriately small amounts in the water leads to children having on average two fewer cavities and no negative long term health effects.

RFK Jr. is being directed by the medical lobby to get rid of vaccines so that they can earn much more money treating sick people from infectious diseases. Also, there is an elite cabal that wants to get rid of vaccines as a way to help depopulate the earth.

Maybe RFK jr. is a loon but you don't know if he is. You don't know because our science can not be trusted to tell the truth when it involves politics and profits for large corporations.

Oi.

Is fluoride harmful? I have no idea.
But what I can tell you is that materials like asbestos and lead paint were common when I was young. The harmful effects of smoking were known but not in public discourse yet because of tobacco profits either.

So it would not surprise me in the least if there actually were harmful side effects from fluoridated water.

Oh! Oh! Oh! My turn, my turn!

Is latex paint harmful? I have no idea. But what I can tell you is that materials like asbestos and lead paint were common when I was young. The harmful effects of smoking were known but not in public discourse yet because of tobacco profits either. So it would not surprise me in the least if there actually were harmful side effects from latex paint.

How about another?

Is gelatin harmful? I have no idea. But what I can tell you is that materials like asbestos and lead paint were common when I was young. The harmful effects of smoking were known but not in public discourse yet because of tobacco profits either. So it would not surprise me in the least if there actually were harmful side effects from gelatin.

This is fun! You can say anything is fucked up... you just need to reference other things that big corporations used that ended up not being helpful. But thank goodness you support Trump who help put visciously pro-Big Business judges on the Federal and Supreme Courts to help protect us from Big Business.... and fluoride, latex paint, and gelatin.

It's the DHMO you really need to worry about. DHMO related deaths massively outweigh all of the fatalities from asbestos, fluoride, latex paint, and gelatin combined.

It sounds scary, and that's all that matters to me.

 

[RVonse]

It sounds scary, and that's all that matters to me.

What matters to me is my son born with mild autism and I would not wish disorder on any other other child or parent raising that child. Certainly not for the sake of pharmaceutical profits.

 

[RVonse]

As time goes on I am even more convinced the Democrats stole the election.

Sane people don't expect that when someone steals something, the rightful owner still has it.

If I stole your wallet, I would have your wallet.

If the Democrats stole the election, they would have the President Elect.

They did have the President Elect. His name was Joe Biden.

And since Trump prevailed this last election the Democrats now looking into how the Republicans stole it:

 

[ideologyhunter]

Well, you know what AHPOTUS-Elect said: "We are seeing fraud in Pennsylvania at levels never seen before."

 

[TomC]

It sounds scary, and that's all that matters to me.

What matters to me is my son born with mild autism and I would not wish disorder on any other other child or parent raising that child. Certainly not for the sake of pharmaceutical profits.

Boy you are a privileged son of a gun. You must have grown up in a society where herd immunity by vaccination has eradicated diseases like polio and rubella quite thoroughly. You no longer see the point to protecting your children from the risks those once common diseases pose.

And here's part of what makes your attitude especially stupid. Which do you think will raise pharmaceutical company profits more? A vaccine or treating a desperately ill child?
Tom

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

It sounds scary, and that's all that matters to me.

What matters to me is my son born with mild autism and I would not wish disorder on any other other child or parent raising that child. Certainly not for the sake of pharmaceutical profits.

Autism is a pain, but "autism" is a much more broad diagnosis than it was 40 years ago when they let it umbrella then entire Asperger Spectrum.

As time goes on I am even more convinced the Democrats stole the election.

Sane people don't expect that when someone steals something, the rightful owner still has it.

If I stole your wallet, I would have your wallet.

If the Democrats stole the election, they would have the President Elect.

They did have the President Elect. His name was Joe Biden.

And since Trump prevailed this last election the Democrats now looking into how the Republicans stole it:

Well, clickbait at least is. A few organizations targeted areas / people with ads to suppress Democrat vote turnout. It worked.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Science is the one field where trust is neither expected nor ever given. If you trust someone else, you are not doing science.

Science doesn't want people to trust it. Politicians, media personalities, and large corporations, on the other hand, want nothing else.

Unfortunately you can not get to real science without corrupt people being in the middle of it. When the scientist livelihood depends on not doing real science they can not be trustworthy. And that happens so often in politics you really can not put complete trust in anyone.

Funny, you can't trust the establishment, but the tin-foilers, we can trust them... regardless how little they actually know about these subjects.

You justify your doubt based on the fact that you can doubt something, and then decide put all your chips of trust on kooks and fools. To make it even more absurd, that they are called kooks and fools makes you trust them even more, reinforcing your doubt.

 

[bilby]

It sounds scary, and that's all that matters to me.

What matters to me is my son born with mild autism and I would not wish disorder on any other other child or parent raising that child. Certainly not for the sake of pharmaceutical profits.

Mate, I was born with mild autism, though it wasn't diagnosed until I was in my forties. As a result, my school life was hell, and I wouldn't want anyone else to go through that.

However, as diagnosis is now routine, life with mild autism is not much of a hardship. The neurodivergent brain even has employment advantages in some fields (particularly computing).

And the real kicker? I was born at a time when measles vacination was typically done at the age of three and a half in my country, and I contracted the disease a few months before my vaccination was due, and nearly died from it. I was in a coma for nine days at the age of three, and there were genuine concerns that I might die, or be permanently blind, or suffer brain damage. I still have no brown fat - in that nine days of no food and only IV fluids I burned through my entire lifetime supply, so I really struggle with cold weather.

If my parents could have chosen in advance one disease that I would not get, knowing all the consequences of their choice, they would not have hesitated to get me vaccinated against measles earlier, even if doing so was a certain cause of my mild autism - which it couldn't have been, 'cause I was never vaccinated against measles.

Until the 1950s, measles killed hundreds of people, mostly children, every year in the UK. The first vaccinations for measles were given at three and a half years, before a child started school. The year I got it, thirty two people died (I was nearly the 33rd). Vaccinations were routinely given at 12 months from the late 1980s onwards, and measles deaths fell to an average of 1.8 per year in the 1990s. In the entire period from 1990 to 2017 there were 32 measles deaths in the UK - the same number as in the single year that I contracted the disease. (source)

Nobody in the 1950s, seeing thousands of dead children each year, was in any serious doubt that a vaccine was absolutely necessary, and even one with occasional deleterious side effects would have been welcomed. However, there is zero evidence of any link between vaccines and autism.

The only study ever to find a link between MMR vaccine and autism was authored by Andrew Wakefield, who stood to earn up to £43 million a year from the sale of test kits.

That's right - the link between vaccines and autism was a lie told for the sole purpose of the "pharmaceutical profits" you rightly despise as a motive.

Wakefield was struck off, and the paper withdrawn, but the legacy of his fraud lives on. The idea that there is any link is a dumb rumour started by a known fraudster, but (unlike the unprotected children it is harming) that rumor just will not die.

 

[Ford]

It sounds scary, and that's all that matters to me.

What matters to me is my son born with mild autism and I would not wish disorder on any other other child or parent raising that child. Certainly not for the sake of pharmaceutical profits.

Nobody in the 1950s, seeing thousands of dead children each year, was in any serious doubt that a vaccine was absolutely necessary, and even one with occasional deleterious side effects would have been welcomed. However, there is zero evidence of any link between vaccines and autism.

My parents came of age in the late 1950s, and started having kids in 1963 with my older brother. We got all the vaccinations available at the time, because they'd seen what diseases like Measles and Polio could do.

What's next? Do we have to live through another Love Canal?

 

[ZiprHead]

Science is the one field where trust is neither expected nor ever given. If you trust someone else, you are not doing science.

Science doesn't want people to trust it. Politicians, media personalities, and large corporations, on the other hand, want nothing else.

Unfortunately you can not get to real science without corrupt people being in the middle of it. When the scientist livelihood depends on not doing real science they can not be trustworthy. And that happens so often in politics you really can not put complete trust in anyone.

 

[Axulus]

This is the most unhinged shit I've seen yet: Video footage of RFK Jr. suggesting the pandemic was planned by the government:



I've heard crazy people screaming on the sidewalk that make more sense.

Also shows some other unhinged stuff like believing 1993 world trade center bombing as also orchestrated by the government.

 

[Axulus]

This is from last year, a post by Paul Offit.

My Conversation with Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

Twenty years ago, I had a one-hour conversation with RFK Jr. In his current campaign for president, he has referred to that conversation during public appearances. It’s time to set the record straight

pauloffit.substack.com

Demonstrates what a lying scumbag RFK Jr. really is. It's no wonder Trump picked him and why MAGA loves him.

The MAGAts are like flies drawn to shit.

From you own article, read the first comment (Steve Kirsch) given to it. Complaining that Paul Offit is not a friend of truth and transparency. Doesn't mean Paul Offit is wrong but what is wrong with science providing truth and transparency? Without complete truth and transparency how can we know if JFK jr. is even wrong?

Please watch the video I posted above. It is a sanity check for your mind. Do you find yourself agreeing with what RFK Jr. says, or is that part of your mind that screams "this is utter unhinged bullshit." going active? There is no lukewarm position here.

If you find yourself agreeing with RFK Jr. in that video, or simply unable to tell the difference, I have to break it to you but the rational part of your brain is completely broken.

I don't care what his other positions are on nutrition, chronic diseases, unhealthy food additives and processed foods are, pharmaceuticals, etc. Some I'm sure I agree with. But this other unhinged stuff he says is completely and utterly disqualifying to lead HHS to those of us whose rational parts of our brains are still working and can see the crazy paranoia as plain as day. This crazy paranoia side of RFK Jr. makes him dangerous to lead the HHS.

And the fact that Trump can't tell the difference is just one of many dozens of reasons he is utterly unqualified and unfit to be the president.