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The Sordid Tale Of Cyntoia Brown

He's the one that visits prostitutes, not me.

Your answer is very superficial, not addressing the technical issue of recklessness and probabilities. Let's recap. Derec said the man shot and killed had no idea she was a minor. Now, looking at her in pictures, we can see she looks young and she was a minor at the time besides this. So, clearly, any regular person observing her at the time would have noticed her young look and thought she might be underage. My challenge to Derec is that upon seeing that, the guy realizes there is a significant probability she is underage, regardless if it is 30% chance she is underage or 80% chance she is underage. Now, his next move shows how reckless he is going to be: is he going to proceed and not care about such significant probability of using money to get sex from a minor or is he going to try to reduce the probability of that event such as by asking for an identification or finding sex elsewhere. If his gun was for his protection, then surely he knows that he is dealing with nefarious characters in the criminal world who do such illegal things as sell minors for sex who are forced into prostitution and he certainly understands that there are probabilities out there, not certainties. If he didn't understand there were probabilities about such things, then he'd simply shoot everyone involved or not bring the gun to begin with. So he gets probabilities and understands how to reduce risk. Of course, if we look from a bit outside the box, what is this man doing trying to get sex from a minor, especially if he knows she might be a minor, and if he knows she might be forced into sex with strangers, also a probability, especially for someone so young. Then, why does he have a gun that he is bringing to have sex with someone who may be a minor forced into sex.
 
He's the one that visits prostitutes, not me.

Your answer is very superficial, not addressing the technical issue of recklessness and probabilities. Let's recap. Derec said the man shot and killed had no idea she was a minor. Now, looking at her in pictures, we can see she looks young and she was a minor at the time besides this. So, clearly, any regular person observing her at the time would have noticed her young look and thought she might be underage. My challenge to Derec is that upon seeing that, the guy realizes there is a significant probability she is underage, regardless if it is 30% chance she is underage or 80% chance she is underage. Now, his next move shows how reckless he is going to be: is he going to proceed and not care about such significant probability of using money to get sex from a minor or is he going to try to reduce the probability of that event such as by asking for an identification or finding sex elsewhere. If his gun was for his protection, then surely he knows that he is dealing with nefarious characters in the criminal world who do such illegal things as sell minors for sex who are forced into prostitution and he certainly understands that there are probabilities out there, not certainties. If he didn't understand there were probabilities about such things, then he'd simply shoot everyone involved or not bring the gun to begin with. So he gets probabilities and understands how to reduce risk. Of course, if we look from a bit outside the box, what is this man doing trying to get sex from a minor, especially if he knows she might be a minor, and if he knows she might be forced into sex with strangers, also a probability, especially for someone so young. Then, why does he have a gun that he is bringing to have sex with someone who may be a minor forced into sex.
Expecting the same level of maturity, intelligence and common sense to the victim to the perpetrator is a fair standard and practice. One wonders why people LP seem unwilling or incapable of doing so.
 
My first inclination would be to side with her but when you look deeper she appears to be a willing participant, not a victim. You're ignoring the fact that those who know the most about the case all think she's not a victim.

Heh. I’m not ignoring anything. You simply take a letter written by an investigator as the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

It's not just one investigator who thinks she was a willing participant.

Yeah, I've read your posts and Derec's.

Here's this for comparison: https://www.buzzfeednews.com/articl...Km_j806p5-hFgXNzV3clABEv42q4K1Rubm6C7wSEfKnuI

It's pretty clear whose life is worth something and whose is not in this country. Go ahead and tell me that Johnny Allen's life was worth more than Laquan McDonald's. Back it up with something other than racism.
 
Cyntoia Brown is clearly guilty as sin. She shot Johnny Allen in the back of the head and stole his money, guns, and pickup trick then went back to Cutthroat. Cutthroat aka Garion McGlothen was Cyntoia Brown's 24 year old drug dealer boyfriend instead of her pimp. Cyntoia only knew Cutthroat for 3 weeks before she got arrested for the murder. I doubt Cutthroat was abusing Cyntoia Brown since he handed her a gun with trust. That same gun was used in a previous robbery by McGlothen aka Cutthroat where Rachel Browning was shot in the neck and paralyzed from the waist down. If Cutthroat was abusing Cyntoia and she was fed up being a hooker, it would have made more sense for her to shoot Cutthroat instead of Allen. If Cyntoia was afraid of Cutthroat, she could have also fled from him in Allen's stolen truck.

Cutthroat and Johnny Allen had never met each other. Cutthroat wasn't present when Cyntoia solicited Johnny Allen. When the cops busted Cyntoia and Cutthroat in the hotel room, Cyntoia begged the police not to arrest Cutthroat and said that only she was responsible for Allen's murder. Johnny Allen was a youth minister who took in homeless teens. There's no proof that Allen had sex with Cyntoia Brown. I think Cyntoia slept on Johnny's couch while he slept in his bed. Even though what Cyntoia was heinous and cold blooded, 51 years was excessive since she was a minor but 15 years for a 1st degree premeditated murder and robbery is way too little. Cyntoia's sentence should have been reduced to 25 years. As disgusting as it was that Cyntoia was released too early, she married a celebrity, has a book deal, and is going on talk shows talking about her experience making money off lies regarding her dead victim. I hope whatever money Cyntoia makes off her book deal and interviews goes to Johnny Allen's family.
 
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