The Tariff argument

[Jason Harvestdancer]

I never imagined I'd see people in this forum oppose a tax.

Personally for me, this has nothing to do with the tax, it has everything to do with declaration.

Trump has abused presidential declaration. Courts have ceded tremendous amount of leeway to the Presidency to allow a President to act in situations that require immediate actions that do not require getting the okay by all parties involved. Things happen suddenly, the leader needs to be able to lead.

Trump has abused this. There are people who have ridiculed President Obama to killing an American citizen (slash terrorist) without a proper trial. IE, the President declared this person no longer has US Constitutional Right. A rather substantial declaration. Yet, these same people don't seem to have a problem with Trump going all "Diplomatic immunity" with national emergencies.

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Ignore the gunshot part.

He is way outside the typical area of leeway and abusing Presidential privilege and general democratic leadership. He just declares something to provide cover for his actions.

Trump is up to 67 extrajudicial killings in S. America. Strange no comment from our resident Libertarian.

When I condemned the killing of Nawar Al-Awlaki, this forum gave me a great big "So what? Big deal." Since him killing foreign brown people isn't considered bad, why bring it up?

 

[Jason Harvestdancer]

I never imagined I'd see people in this forum oppose a tax.

Personally for me, this has nothing to do with the tax, it has everything to do with declaration.

Trump has abused presidential declaration. Courts have ceded tremendous amount of leeway to the Presidency to allow a President to act in situations that require immediate actions that do not require getting the okay by all parties involved. Things happen suddenly, the leader needs to be able to lead.

Trump has abused this. There are people who have ridiculed President Obama to killing an American citizen (slash terrorist) without a proper trial. IE, the President declared this person no longer has US Constitutional Right. A rather substantial declaration. Yet, these same people don't seem to have a problem with Trump going all "Diplomatic immunity" with national emergencies.

Show

Ignore the gunshot part.

He is way outside the typical area of leeway and abusing Presidential privilege and general democratic leadership. He just declares something to provide cover for his actions.

Trump is up to 67 extrajudicial killings in S. America. Strange no comment from our resident Libertarian.

Libertarian means freedom for white Americans to do whatever the fuck they want but boots on necks for everybody else.

Jason isn't white.

According to people like Jarhyn and scombrid, if you don't vote the right way you lose your your status as a minority. I can feel my melanin draining away as I type this.

 

[KCFlyer]

Why are we talking taxes with tariffs? Tariffs are a tax cut for Americans....this person, who was insulted that this reporter had the gall to test her knowledge of economics..tells us exactly that. Can't you just smell the greatness?

 

[crazyfingers]

Why are we talking taxes with tariffs? Tariffs are a tax cut for Americans....this person, who was insulted that this reporter had the gall to test her knowledge of economics..tells us exactly that. Can't you just smell the greatness?

I was talking with my family today about her. I said she's a BBB. Brainless Blond Barbie.

My wife cut in and said "She's a cunt".

My wife doesn't usually talk that way.

Sean Spicer lied all the time but I have often wondered if he was uncomfortable lying.

Not BBB. She loves to lie.

 

[Spacetime Inhabitant]

Why are we talking taxes with tariffs? Tariffs are a tax cut for Americans....this person, who was insulted that this reporter had the gall to test her knowledge of economics..tells us exactly that. Can't you just smell the greatness?

So his question (and his follow-up point - that he personally had experience with paying tariffs on imports) she sees as a test of her knowledge of economics. Then it is a test that she failed. To claim tariffs are a tax cut for the American people is ridiculous.
Next she will claim that tax cuts for the rich is a burden on them, which helps normal people.