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Stein?! How can anyone who's a science enthusiast vote for Stein?
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Stein?! How can anyone who's a science enthusiast vote for Stein?
I don't know man, how can anyone that's a non-interventionist vote for Clinton?Stein?! How can anyone who's a science enthusiast vote for Stein?
I don't know man, how can anyone that's a non-interventionist vote for Clinton?Stein?! How can anyone who's a science enthusiast vote for Stein?
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I don't know man, how can anyone that's a non-interventionist vote for Clinton?Stein?! How can anyone who's a science enthusiast vote for Stein?
Yeah, you should use an Apple smart phoneI don't know man, how can anyone that's a non-interventionist vote for Clinton?
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Well, see, there's you're problem.
Florida.
We saw in Florida in 2000 how not voting for one of the "2 Party" candidates can effect the outcome.
A vote for Stein is a vote not for Hillary and not for Trump.
So in the matter of Hillary v. Trump it is equivalent to staying home.
If Trump does win, we Canadians have decided to build a great big border wall to keep you Americans out, and Donald Trump will pay for it.
We saw in Florida in 2000 how not voting for one of the "2 Party" candidates can effect the outcome.
A vote for Stein is a vote not for Hillary and not for Trump.
So in the matter of Hillary v. Trump it is equivalent to staying home.
Not quite. It is the equivalent of staying home and not changing who gets elected, but making your voice heard. And if enough people do it, it could put the Greens on a stronger standing next time around.
It really isn't that big of an issue. The only time Trump supporters go to Canada is to kill a bear or moose. Just put a sign out front saying "Canada has no more Bear and Moose."If Trump does win, we Canadians have decided to build a great big border wall to keep you Americans out, and Donald Trump will pay for it.
It really isn't that big of an issue. The only time Trump supporters go to Canada is to kill a bear or moose. Just put a sign out front saying "Canada has no more Bear and Moose."If Trump does win, we Canadians have decided to build a great big border wall to keep you Americans out, and Donald Trump will pay for it.
Why don't we just tell them that there's black people up here? They'll get scared and keep away.
It would be insanity to bitch about the Nader voters as some do.
A Nader vote did not negate one Gore vote. It did not add to Bush.
It was no different from not voting at all.
To bitch about the small amount of people who voted for Nader and not focus on the people who stayed home because Gore did not speak to them or attract them is insanity.
Gore ran a terrible campaign. No doubt about it. I think that he probably focused too much on the environment (an issue that I care about). Exit polls showed that Nader voters in Florida would have voted for gore 40% of the time, Bush 20% of the time, stayed home the remaining 40%. So, 40% of Nader voters in Florida would have voted for Gore. That's more than 40,000 votes. Gore only lost Florida by 253 votes. We can't afford the same with Trump. Sure, the increase of third party candidates increases overall voter turnout and helps dems. But we'll be in worse shape if dems take congress and Trump takes the white house.
Something in my brain told me that Gore won the debates and I began to think that he'd slam Bush in the polls, but then the news media told everyone how Bush was a cowboy who you could sit down and have a beer with.
Gore ran a terrible campaign. No doubt about it. I think that he probably focused too much on the environment (an issue that I care about). Exit polls showed that Nader voters in Florida would have voted for gore 40% of the time, Bush 20% of the time, stayed home the remaining 40%. So, 40% of Nader voters in Florida would have voted for Gore. That's more than 40,000 votes. Gore only lost Florida by 253 votes. We can't afford the same with Trump. Sure, the increase of third party candidates increases overall voter turnout and helps dems. But we'll be in worse shape if dems take congress and Trump takes the white house.
There is no "would have".
That is an imaginary fairy tale for children.
There is only what happened. A tale for adults.
And what happened is some people didn't vote for Gore or Bush and voted for Nader.
These votes had ABSOLUTELY NO effect on Gore v Bush because they were votes for neither.
There is no "would have".
That is an imaginary fairy tale for children.
There is only what happened. A tale for adults.
And what happened is some people didn't vote for Gore or Bush and voted for Nader.
These votes had ABSOLUTELY NO effect on Gore v Bush because they were votes for neither.
Here's the last that I'll say on the issue: if Johnson/Stein get Trump elected, I hope that the dems go back to the middle. The dems have made many concessions to the left, dramatically changed the platform. It's been my opinion that dems should adopt a strategy of targeting the middle, not the left. We know that moderates vote, and they make their vote count. It's always been my opinion that moderates decide elections, not the far left. But the dems didn't listen to me. I hope to hell that I'm wrong. The worst part is that there are many moderate republicans ready to bolt Duffy Donald. But the dems are moving left, hoping to capture a very difficult to please group.
Little known fact: there are more registered democrats than republicans. And yet republicans win far more elections than dems. Even with a crazy person running their party, they will unite for a higher purpose. Again, I hope that I am wrong......
I don't know man, how can anyone that's a non-interventionist vote for Clinton?Stein?! How can anyone who's a science enthusiast vote for Stein?
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I don't know man, how can anyone that's a non-interventionist vote for Clinton?
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Because NOTHING is worse that having Trump as president.
And nobody have any idea of what interventions Trump may unleash..